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I hope that McDonalds has “class traitor” graffiti on it
Why, because someone else who was eating there ratted him out? That’s like blaming Reddit the platform for the actions of a modera–
–oh wait, you guys do that too
whoo, downvotes and no replies
Yeah, posting bullshit gets that. Get your facts straight before you start shitting on other people for being like Reddit.
You’re peak fucking redditor here bud.
Tbh it’s the ceo of Reddit people are mad at. You know your wrong you just want comments to argue with
Given the way some people comment, that is news to me.
why did you leave? you don’t blame reddit after all
It wasn’t someone who was eating there bro, it was the Lumpenproletariat in the drive-through window.
Then what criteria do you judge a platform based off of? A large part of why I left Reddit was because of the mods…? And the company can certainly do stuff to fix that, but refuse to because money. So if that’s not the case, then I assume you mean the actual structure and layout of Reddit.
And parent comment is saying the employee is a class traitor. Not the, physical structure and layout of the building? The physical building itself didn’t rat, because physical buildings aren’t sentient.
Your analogy is absolute dog shit.
First of all Reddit is responsible because they created and actively allow moderators to act the way they do. They perpetuate the fantasy that mods are all powerful and Reddit admins hands are tied when a person is targeted by a mod.
Second the person worked there so it’s extremely ironic a slave wagee ratted on a person that was targeting corporate inequality and they denied her the payout.
When you think everyone else is an asshole you might double check
Thinks like that pizza guy movie with the neck bomb. Real life more absurd than art.
Do a favor for the cops, they give you nothing and often end up revealing who you are, sometimes by accident.
Do a favor for the mafia and they do one for you
Anyone have a citation about the rat not getting the money? People keep saying that, but I haven’t seen a single article posted about it.
And people say that McDonald’s never produced anything delicious.
both the arrest and conviction of the suspect
Makes perfect sense, but that’s just a matter of time.
might not be eligible for [the NYPD] part of the reward.
OK, so maybe they won’t be getting 10k of the 60k. They would still get 50k if he’s convicted. So many people are definitively saying that they’re getting none of the money, and that makes no sense.
The tip didn’t contribute to conviction, only the arrest. The words “both” and “and” rather than “consequent” are explicit.
The rat won’t be paid.
this doesn’t really add to the discussion, but i just wanted to say thanks for sharing a source. I feel like i don’t see it enough, so i appreciate you taking the time to share it
I don’t feel like you need to
apologize forexcuse saying a heartfelt thank you with a text comment, just because it doesn’t add to the discussion. We need more of this kindness in the world. ❤️you can pry my kindness from my cold dead hands
“McDonald’s employee who called 911 in CEO’s shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time”
Yeah its good to be skeptical of something like this that everyone wants to be true.
I don’t have a citation. But I do believe that you’d normally have to wait for a conviction before getting the reward. Otherwise it could be the wrong guy.
I was thinking the same thing. So why is everyone on Lemmy saying “The snitch didn’t even get the money, so they did it for nothing!”
Because they didn’t read any of the sources and just heard about the NYPD requirement that they call the tip line, which they didn’t do, so unless there’s some major backlash, they definitely won’t be getting $10,000 of the reward.
The other $50,000 from the FBI we’re all kinda assuming will have some other reason to not be paid out, but if we’re being honest, if the 1% want us to continue turning on each other in the future, they’re gonna have to let these high profile snitching cases go through.
There isn’t actually any citation for this, there is however a bunch of articles written pointing to the red tape around reward money and saying “maybe” he wont be paid. But so far I havnt seen anything that shows this as more than conjecture
Also this snitch not being paid would be the dumbest fucking move imaginable if their goal is to have murdering Capitalists not be the new trend.
Police: Here’s 10, thousand dollars! Thanks for the tip!
The fed: oh I see you made some extra money, Here’s your entire one thousand dollars after tax!
How much money does a McDonald’s employee in the US make to be in the 90% tax bracket? I’m jealous.
Sales tax: yes that’ll be 11% thanks!
The reporting on how he came to be arrested is quite a bit different from what’s all over social media. From what I’ve read, it wasn’t until the cops showed up that anyone even knew who it was. It seems like he was acting strange after several days on the run and nights without much sleep. A concerned customer asked an employee to call the cops.
I don’t know how accurate this story is, but I have no idea where the social media narrative came from, except that it was half written before he was ever captured. I think the anger at McDonalds and the employee involved is misplaced, and I hope it doesn’t have serious consequences.
Luigi wasn’t lower class, tho? You could try to argue his family was middle class but even that’s a stretch, his grandfather donated a million dollars on a single event and Luigi attended both a Private High School where he was Valedictorian and he had a Masters Degree from Ivy League University of Pennsylvania.
Neither were most revolutionaries. This is a pattern that has long historical support.
Sure hope this doesn’t follow any patterns, based on past outcomes.
He’s a class traitor, to our side. So a working class hero, as in a hero to the working class.
Hmm
You can be rich and still fight against an oligarchy. That’s why it’s class warfare. His actions line up with the poor fighting back against the rich using the same tools they use: murder.
As I understand it his family owns multiple resorts and real estate and has multiple companies. Not really what I’d call lower class.
Family money isn’t necessarily his money, Grandpa may be a “pull yourself up by your bootstraps pussy” kind of guy.
“pull yourself up by your bootstraps pussy”
That’s more upper class, I can’t imagine real rich people would their own like that. But who knows.
I also don’t approve any attacks on his character via this angle. It is important to discuss but the mans work speaks for itself.
His class is secondary discussion here.
IMHO
There’s no higher, middle or lower class. Those are all lies from the owning class to divide the working class and it seems like they’re working on you.
His family owns a lot of real estate.
Do you have to be a slave to fight against slavery?
To be a Lower Class Hero and Icon you have to be Lower Class, yes.
Nobody called John Brown the Slave Hero or the living symbol of a Slave fighting oppression.
People’s perception of Luigi is fantasy fiction.
Incorrect
Have you ever heard of class solidarity? It’s not us = poor vs them = rich, it’s us = people who have to work vs them = people make money off us working. The fact that this “upper class” dude had to suffer at the hands of the healthcare system should have tipped you off that he’s one of us - the bourgeois don’t have to worry about healthcare.
You can praise Luigi for betraying his class but I don’t see any reason to replace the truth with fanfiction.
So you really think the ruling class have to struggle with healthcare?! The fact that he took such drastic measures because of having the same damn fight with the insurance companies that you and I have to do is proof. And if that shit about his mom is true, then clearly they are not bourgeoisie.
No I don’t think Luigi had any problem at all getting his spinal surgeries funded.
Probably because that was before he was 26 and kicked off his parents insurance plan. You’re doing as much speculation as me, we don’t know, so why are you so adamant?
Your being a jackass obviously they ment “he is a hero to the lower class”.
I guess people from lower class can’t stand for themselves as they are busy surviving. Revolutionnary figures were often from middle class (Lenine, Che…)
Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro…
Oh hey I can think of one poor one, Adolf Hitler.
A bit confused where this one is going
Just naming successful revolution figures, that’s all.
I don’t think anyone would consider Hitler successful in the long term.
He wasn’t in charge, tried to overthrow the government the first time but failed, spent 6 years pandering, and then he was the absolute authority for over a decade leading up to his death. The only thing that stopped him was Germany being conquered by the Allies and USSR.
That’s why I specified in the long term. In the end, his atrocities became too untenable and he and his regime were dismantled. I’d consider that a failure in the long term.
Worker class is the true unifier. You can be lower, mid, and upper worker class.
If you have to work to live, you’re working class. If your employer controls a significant portion of your life and time, you’re working class.
Technically Mangione had a white collar desk job, not unlike Brian Thompson.
You need to do some market research
Thompson’s net worth was estimated at approximately $42.9 million as of February 16, 2024
His total compensation in 2022 was reported to be $9.86 million, comprising a base salary of $1 million, stock awards, option awards, and non-equity incentive plans.
Thompson had “fuck you” money. The guy was at no risk of needing employment. Equating Thompson with the working class is a joke.
And Luigi was carrying around more cash than most people his age have ever had in savings total.
And what good did that do him?
It’s not about money, its about wealth. You could have all the money in the world but if you have all the debts to pay then it means nothing.
Pretty certain he had all his debts paid off, or at the very least more than enough money and power to do so.
His parents own tons of real estate and his grandfather was even more loaded. In fact, I bet two semesters of his high school surpassed the cost of all of his out of pocket spinal surgery and care combined.
is there news source for “fuck right off about that reward, bud”?
It’s an easy find. Nobody is literally saying fuck right off, but it’s not a stretch to think this shithole society would screw the person over.
NYPD Crime Stoppers Rules: The NYPD part of the reward is given out through Crime Stoppers. To claim this part, people must have a unique reference number provided when they submit a tip through Crime Stoppers. Unfortunately, because the employee called 911 instead of using the Crime Stoppers hotline, they might not be eligible for this part of the reward.
What a fucking joke. Hope everyone learns the lesson here.
Mustn’t let the poors get a foothold, they may improve their situation.
HAHahaha You can’t make this shit up.
Right? If I tried I’d just write a scene where she’s leaving with a fat sack of cash and then learns that her important knee surgery will cost, two fat sacks of cash.
I highly doubt that with the current climate and visibility of this they don’t pay the class traitor.
Don’t forget: McD’s also took down all the negative “overrun by rats” reviews for that location, and drumroll nothing happens…
Google took those down
And they were right to, in my opinion. I agree with the sentiment but they were not valid reviews
It is a guerilla marketing campaign!
Do you clutch your pearls for them too?
It’s pearl clutching to say that review platforms should delete reviews for places the reviewers have never been??
I think it’s funny as hell they got review bombed…but they’re not real reviews of the restaurant lol
If the “restaurant” (that’s generous, here) reviews aren’t allowed to criticize the staff, etc., WTF are we even doing? 🤌🏼
fair enough!
I mean there was definitely a rat in the kitchen.
They are completely valid reviews. Class traitors are not a desirable element of any place any of us might support w/ our hard-earned pittance. ✊🏼
too many rats, won’t be eating here again
factually correct statement?
Absolutely correct. Too many rats did eat there. One is too many rats.
On McDonald’s behalf.
Wait for the next step: the franchise fires the employee because of several 1 star reviews and death threats
I’m pretty sure it’s already corporate policy to not question people abour fake bills or do anything to stop shoplifters (because insured and liability). Wouldn’t be surprised if a new corporate policy crops up if something like that does happen
Can confirm… store manager.
I joke that our policy for shoplifters is to offer them a bag.
In reality it’s to offer them a cart as a non accusatory way of saying “I see you”
As for bills I had my boss suggest I take them to the bank. I had to clarify “and I tell them I believe there is a counterfeit in there… Right … Otherwise it’s dangerously close to trying to pass a counterfeit myself… A felony…”
He paused and answered “sure if that makes you more comfortable”
To be clear I understand and agree with a lot of it. Why should I ask my workers to risk their life over some toothpaste? Why should I ask them to risk their life confronting a counterfeiter who is already done commiting felonies.
I also understand it doesn’t help the company. One dead worker will cost the company more than all the product a person could steal. Even with insurance the cost of training even a cashier is nearly $1000. It goes up from there.
It is still frustrating and my employees often take a lot of training to convince them not to care if someone is stealing.
And customers also get frustrated when they tell me someone is stealing and I give them an answer like "that’s unfortunate " and go back to work.
and I give them an answer like "that’s unfortunate "
You might want to also let them know that “we’re insured for this” and that “nobody is going to lose their job over this, so let’s not lose our heads, either.”
Also, it’ll go a long way to acknowledge how unfair it is that an employee doing the same thing is completely different.
I’ve been told flat out the cameras are to watch employees
I’ve never worked at McDonald’s but I know for a fact that pizza hut had a policy of not pursuing thieves, we were explicitly told not to do it.
At one point somebody did walk out without paying and the manager yelled at everyone, because literally none of us noticed. But he couldn’t really do anything to us about it because corporate policy was that we weren’t supposed to do anything, even though obviously he wanted us to have done something.
Off topic but I was a manager of a pizza hut for a while. Drove my district manager nuts with technicalities.
“How many pepperonis go on a large one topping?”
“I look at the chart”
“As a store manager you should have it memorized!”
“As a store manager I have the training manual memorized. It says to look at the chart each and every time you make a pie. It specifically discourages memorizing the portion control. look at the chart every time.”
The answer he wanted was 56 back then btw. 56 pepperoni on a large one topping. I still remember that. The correct answer was “look at the chart” so that was the only answer I gave him.
Another funny story, it was my first food service job. He yelled at me for using the sanitizing cloth from the pizza area on the wing area. Cross contamination, I know that now.
I told him I didn’t know about cross contamination and that it was my first job in food service.
He yelled “I trained you myself”
I replied “yeah … I wasn’t going to mention that but you did train me yourself… Yet here I am not knowing anything about the concept of cross contamination… Maybe more time should be devoted to that in the future”
He did not like me lol
Edit: I had been a retail manager for a few years and got hired on as a store manager for pizza hut. I was vocal that I had zero experience with food. I don’t even cook for myself. I microwave or order food. I know it sounds silly now that I didn’t know anything about cross contamination. I didn’t know, he hired me, he didn’t explain it during training. Call me stupid for not knowing, that’s fine. Hes responsible for making sure I knew, he was my trainer. That’s his fault. I’m still a manger (retail again) and it is very much my job to train my crew properly and never assume something is “common sense”. If it’s important you go over it in training… But I guess I never trained any of my cashiers to not throw poop at customers I just assume that’s common sense… So I guess there’s that flaw in my theory lol
Oh I wouldn’t worry about it I grew up extremely privileged and when my parents insisted I actually got a job I really didn’t understand the concept of being paid. I didn’t quite understand why anybody cared about that because the money was so insignificant, why would anybody care about it?
I was a really stupid kid. At one point I worked at a petrol station (gas station) for free because I didn’t really understand what jobs were for.
I was a really really stupid kid.
…and all that came of the whole affair was a bunch of bad reviews for a McDonald’s, which were promptly deleted by the corporation controlling all data.
The parasites are scrapping their data online because they know plebs don’t know how to check SEC filings on https://www.sec.gov/search-filings
That could maybe contain names of the people running these death machines.
Coincidentally, unrelated, happenstance fact - you can gain the ability to attend shareholder meetings by purchasing a certain amount of shares - each company sets their own level.
Y’know, exactly like the meeting Brian was on his way to that December morning.…
ohh wow, look at that!
i guess they really do think peasants don’t know how to use common sense and online search, i am sure Securitas and G4S clowns charging a fat fee for this advise too. Classic capitalism strikes again.
does it actually make these parasites any safer?
no way to tell really…
Well the employee was also fired and their life ruined, and it’s still early.
I can’t find anything that mentions they were fired. Do you have a source for that? That would be super messed up.
Well I have it from the statements of the woman herself and the somewhat open gossip now of central PA.
I could try to pull sources but I’m not sure what I could provide that would be considered respectable enough for this community.
I think she was just put on leave but if you are a part time worker on leave without pay it sure looks like being fired even if on a technicality they can say she wasn’t fired yet. I dunno she’s acting like she was fucked over and I believe it when she thought she would get a bunch of money and be a hero.
I don’t have sources that talk about people shitting on cars at the McDonald’s but that’s happening too.
Seriously? Why is that?
Being fired? For being a distraction from the work that McDonald’s wants to occur without people associating it with class warfare.
Honestly it’s probably the manager reacting poorly and once it goes further up the ladder and there is more and more backlash they will turn back on these decisions same as the reward money if they are smart though I think the 10,000 is officially off the table since that was a private 3rd party and the 50,000 will likely be a fraction of that at best.
Any kind of change from norm gets blamed on whoever they think caused it. And it hits wide and usually the innocent just as much.
Until you can provide a source about them being fired I’m calling bullshit.
That’s fair and I respect your time enough to not post sources that amount to Facebook posts and texts from others that live there.
I will say it shouldn’t come as such a stretch that a system that believes in those that interrupt the flow of money as villains no matter the reasons for it from protests to victims of bullying would mistreat an old lady who was hoping to get more out of her existence by being good for it.
So meet my statements with skepticism absolutely! But I implore you to treat as “what if true” rather than “what if false”.
I’ve already heard a bunch of stories of insurance companies approving procedures they denied the day before.
This probably saved a bunch of lives.
I guess Advent Health dropped their proposed anesthesia policy out of the goodness of their heart?
For now. However I’m sure they have plans in the works for all sorts of similar heinous and hateful policy changes.
No, there was a lot more that came of this (unless you’re specifically referencing the snitching part).
- It’s made business execs afraid.
- It’s shown the working class how to have solidarity.
- It’s been a rallying cry for how much the people hare the current system.
- It’s given us a martyr.
- It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.
And I’m sure there’s more.
Is his martydom trending on “common” social media like TikTok, YT, Facebook, Discord, big podcasts and such?
Lemmy (and even Twitter and Reddit) are rather niche and not necessarily reaching the larger public, aka this pool of working class folk.
I can’t speak for all of them, but I can explain the vibes:
- TikTok/Insta - 100% worshipping Luigi en masse
- Discord - None of the ones I’m in, though I mostly stick to small friend groups I know IRL. I’d be shocked if there aren’t servers praising him as a hero
I can’t speak to the rest.
One of the Hoi4 mod servers im on is actively debating making an agent portrait of him. The debate is about historical accuracy not morality.
Lmao
It definitely seems to be yeah, given the number of reposted tiktoks I’ve seen, and the facebook unitedhealthgroup laughing emoji ratio, and all the videos that corporate media are clutching their pearls over. There are tons of comments in Ben Shapiro’s videos on the subject that are cheering on the death of a CEO, despite his attempt to paint this as only the “violent left”. When Ben Shapiro’s viewers disagree with him you know the feeling is widespread lol.
Very interesting.
And some of the “small” news outlets in my feed are starting to sympathetically acknowledge it as well.
It might even unify some voters across party lines
Maybe the “let me fuck shit up and shoot up my high-school” crowd doesn’t really care about being remembered as heroes but what would I know.
Some of them don’t care about being remembered or how they’re remembered.
But some of them very much do:
https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2023/07/when-mass-shooters-are-seeking-fame.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178916300027
Example:
It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.
I never even thought of that. No more Columbines? Just more Luigis?
Based universe!
I wouldn’t go so far to say that there won’t be any more school shootings. A school shootings is comparatively easy. Their locations are static, publicly available. There are many potential victims, and so on.
With that said, some may opt for the slightly higher difficulty of biz execs for the reasons I’ve listed.
or if you conceal your murder(s) with a thin veil of legality!
I’m not a big Astarion fan, but I can see the appeal.
Interesting work of fiction.
He’s not wrong that people don’t mind murder if it’s the right people, though.
I think that user above you was implying more should be done about the McDonalds, which is pretty ironic given the context.
This is why you don’t snitch. The powers that be don’t care about you, have no intention to do right by you, and will actively look for ways to avoid you after they are done with you.
always have been.jpeg
I always wondered about WitSec. How long does the protection last? After trial, then what?
What was it again, Deny, Delay, …
Dispose?
The original is delay, deny, defend.
The one that was on the cartridge casing when the CEO was terminated was, delay, deny, depose.
The act of deposing a person, by one definition is to “remove from office suddenly and forcefully”
IMO, that’s the meaning behind the use of “depose” here.
There’s also legal depositions which are a very different thing entirely. From what I’ve heard, Luigi had a lot of experience with delay and deny. I dunno how much of what I’ve heard is true, and how much is just a game of telephone gone wrong.
Are you sure about that?
I didn’t think they recovered one with “delay”
The problem is that the first reports of what was written on the casings was wrong, and later corrections are mixed in with the original misreported text.
So there’s a lot of misunderstandings about what they said.
I’m not saying my information is 100% accurate; but I’m not willing to wade through the neverending sea of news articles that care more about clicks than accuracy to figure it out.
In any case, good luck and have a good day!
Dispose was a joke answer but I appreciate the extra detail
There are actually more details involving where the rewards come from and the existence of an evaluation process, i.e. you don’t just make a phone call and somebody hands you a pile of cash. That’s how rewards have always worked. But anything beyond a meme-level thought process is super boring, right? Gotta make an instant value judgement, congratulate yourself for uncovering injustice, and scroll on to the next item in the feed.
And somehow we still expect elections to produce meaningful results.
Is it just me that doesn’t believe the McDonald’s employee thing? I think they used Pegasus or Stingray type privacy violating device/exploit and just said it was a restaurant employee.
Or they pretended to be a customer and said to the employee, “Gee, that guy really looks a lot like the killer, doesn’t he, ha ha wouldn’t that be funny, anyway give me a big mac and fries. He does look like him though.”
Nancy the wage slave called him in but the fat boomer they ran articles with is the fed?
100% the whole story is too convenien lul.
