This is like saying “murder is bad.”
- Murder is usually defined as an illegal killing. However, many legal killings are bad and many illegal killings are good. For example, it was illegal to kill Nazis in Germany circa 1940, but it wasn’t immoral.
Context.
Oh, how I wish I could argue, that all killings are immoral. But this is a shitty world.
Unless said words are “they are eating the dogs the people that came in there,” in which case it incites, somehow succesfully, acts of physical violence against other races.
“they are eating the dogs the people that came in there”
I would buy a punctuation, Pat
no-context screenshot = assume downvotes are justified
Yes, but what about racist violence?
Minus and minus is plus, i learned that in maffs
5–5=0
Sounds are physical movements that strike your eardrum (unless we’re talking bone induction). Loud enough sounds (words) can also be physical violence.
(Seriously, though. Emotional violence is a thing, and it’s bad too)
How to spot the racist? They try to draw a distinction here.
They just want to make the words acceptable today so they can pre-justify the violence tomorrow.
But then watch them hurry to say that words aren’t acceptable as soon as you mention words like ‘Palestine’ and ‘guillotine’.
The overlap between edgelords and racists is significant
The edgelord circle is almost entirely inside the racist circle.
There’s only a precarious few edgelords out there who aren’t racist, but there are lots of racists who aren’t edgelords about it.
“Actual violence” thats what the downvotes are about.
This gives charlie Kirk vibes
It’s reddit. 🤷
racism is peaceful and nonviolent? What are lynchings? Just racists doing peaceful non violent racism? Why reward thinking lynchings aren’t a real racist occurrence that still happens by upvoting that dumb comment?
OP, are you complaining here that Reddit downvoted you for saying someone punching a Nazi is worse than a Nazi?
This is bullshit, since racism leads to violence.
⚠️ Reported
Fact: this is not a shitpost
Fact: American Spotted
The fight against racism feels bad in America, but it feels overwhelming when foreigners ignorantly declare “Racism? That’s just an American thing! We don’t exhibit any of that here! Nosir!”
If anything, Americans just have a mantra of making their historical flaws known.
yep 100%
Wait… are you saying you’re a racist from somewhere other than the US?
I am ignorant, please help me understand. Is violence not worse?
Is it a sort of psyhological violence that is worse?
Honestly I wish my parents would have just beat me
I think its more that the racist words and racists violence are not two seperate entities that can be tackled independently
And thats what the person is attempting to do, essentially cut one head off the hydra knowing 2 more will emerge
The common link is not just the words, its not just the violence, its that and the infinite spectrum of ramnifications of people thinking there are greater and lesser people than themselves
Yes violent acts are worse than verbal acts Traumas should not be compared, all victems are valid, and words can be used violently.
But racism is bigger than words and violence, and saying “oh the racist violence is worse than the racist words, so we should be focusing in on the violence” is ignorant, and purposefully looks for a tree so as to not see the forest.
Racism is born of generational societal systemic levels of suffering - it requires generational societal systemic levels of healing to reduce its harm.
Ah, I see. That makes sense. Thanks!
Judging by the response to OOP, I’d guess the original context was somebody punching a racist or something. IE if my guess is right OOP is saying [anti-racist] violence is worse than [racist] words, which explains the negative reaction
If anyone has a source for this to confirm/deny it’d be appreciated tho
I imagine the poster was arguing against punching Nazis.
Which come on, no people were ever hurt by punching Nazis.
I mean, there’s a chance they scraped their knuckles. But I find the scuff worth the punch.
It’s not violence, it’s fun for the whole family!
Punching nazis is self defense for society at large
Counterpoint: once my buddy Al broke his fist on somebody’s face
Racism isn’t just verbal. It is violent and deadly. Racist violence is just as deserving of being considered violence. Racism is often violent. It should not be categorized as a thing you can compare to violence because racism is also violent.
The problem is that an upvote and a downvote completely lack context.
Racism is bad: true
Physical violence is worse than verbal violence IF all else is equal : true
Therefore…
Physical racism is worse than verbal racism.
But physical violence is not necessarily worse than verbal racism. This is why contacts matters.
And that’s why it’s ok to punch Nazis.
Reddit votes are about relevance not agreement.
I dunno. I would often downvote things I thought were stupid. They were relevant, but wrong and dumb.
lol
Yes, when I see posts identical to this it’s usually in the context of “left wing antifa violence is more common than right wing violence.” Which makes me wary enough of this post already.
