• Jax@sh.itjust.works
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    21 days ago

    I hate that I have to clarify that I don’t like the new GoW because Ragnarok was bad, not because woman lead — all because of these low T creeps who are jealous of digital women having more facial hair than them.

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      21 days ago

      Yeah, I didn’t really like the 2nd Horizon, not because they made Aloy less hot, but because the writing just wasn’t as good and progression basically mandates the stupid crafting hunts for hyper specific animals.

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        20 days ago

        I didn’t mind that part of the sequel. The writing wasn’t as good though but my main issue weirdly was just that they give you a bunch more weapons and tools and no reason whatsoever to use most of them. Kinda fumbled with the design there, where in the first you needed every tool depending what you were facing off against.

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        20 days ago

        It’s not something people often include. It’s more work too for no (?) benefit from the game studio’s point of view

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            20 days ago

            It’s a game about robot dinosaurs. I don’t think they’re making their money on realism, exactly haha. But someone else mentioned how it could broaden the player base and that makes sense

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              20 days ago

              Well, realistic bodies :) like how facial features during speech for example was the focus just a couple of years ago

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            20 days ago

            Does a game studio in this case actually care about that? I’d just expect them to want to make most money with least effort. That’s why I’m surprised

            • velma@sh.itjust.works
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              20 days ago

              …they did? They made the game this way. This game is already out.

              I think it’s kinda funny that you’re surprised they would be inclusive. I’d bet there are quite a few women on the dev team and there are quite a few women who play these games.

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                20 days ago

                I’m always surprised if a big corporation cares about anything other than making money tbh

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                  20 days ago

                  Why do you think that appealing to women and broadening their customer base would not make them money?

                  Has everyone forgotten that women play games, too?

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          The studio probably doesn’t set out with an exact artistic vision, and then arrive there as quickly as possible. Much more likely they decided 15 (or whatever) artists is enough for this project, and they are paying them until the project is done. For the artists, that means if they’ve met the bare minimum, then chasing smaller and smaller things to keep busy… Keeps them busy.

          Likewise, the studio is (hopefully) still within their estimate for the art budget, so there’s no one breathing down their neck about cutting costs there. It’s not worth it to fire people just because the work is done, especially if they might need that capacity for something close to release.

          Technically, the director (or someone) probably could tell them “That’s everything for now. Doomscroll until we need you again”, but that’s not really best for anyone - so effort spent on meaningless detail wins.

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            20 days ago

            That’s what I mean. I feel like that’s all these big corporations care about

            • velma@sh.itjust.works
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              20 days ago

              Women play games. And men who appreciate attention to detail play games.

              The only people who might be turned away from buying this game because of this particular detail are incels. And why should a game studio cater to them?

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                20 days ago

                Incels are a big player base. But they’ve probably done the math on which one benefits them more

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                  Considering the game sold 8.4 million copies by April 2023, I don’t think the incel community is as big of a player base as you think.

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    20 days ago

    Personal favorite was one time I referenced how an electric razor worked, and a redditor nitpicking the mechanism ended with ‘you’ll figure it out when you get your first boyfriend, honey.’

    Like.

    Buddy.

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    I’m still flabbergasted by this ridiculous outrage, like, it was crazy. Calling a bit of natural peach fuzz a beard, crazy work. These incels and weirdos really are twisted ass dudes.

    Humans are mammals, so we’re a bit hairy, that’s genuinely not out of the ordinary for a regular woman to have a bit of peach fuzz. What isn’t normal is making it seem abnormal, these chuds, they’re truly tragic in so many ways.

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      21 days ago

      it’s ragebait.

      if you raged and took this seriously, they won.

      the point of posts like this is to make people flip out and get them to reply and push engagement.

      and it works. it worked on you.

      call them names all you want, you are giving them what they want.

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          The tag that I added to the above user’s handle gives me a good chuckle every time I see them in the wild. Helps balance the rank odiousnesses of many of their comments lol the irony of a troll like them calling something rage bait only adds to my glee.

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        21 days ago

        I didn’t take this seriously, it’s just confusing that this caused people to actually lose their minds. There’s no rage to be felt about this as all I feel is absolutely confused this passes for something to feel outrage over. ROFL It’s just weird to me that they never saw a woman up close, and knew that peach fuzz is a thing women have on their faces. I did call them names, but, incel does seem fitting in this case. More than ever.

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          21 days ago

          I think they’re saying that the OP’s OP’s OP was rage bait, i.e. the guy pretending not to know people have fine hair everywhere was just trolling.

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            20 days ago

            i also think it’s funny how enraged people are you suggest it’s rage bait.

            because clearly this is some huge problem, instead of stupid internet flaming bullshit.

            but ragebait works. people love being angry over stupid bullshit and projecting their angst at imaginary chuds that likely don’t really exist.

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              No one is mad you’re calling it rage bait, though what you’re doing is rage baiting as well since if you were around the internet when that game released you know full well all the gamergate chuds lost their fucking minds. Fuckin dweebs are always so loud. Anyway yeah this was actual discourse for a month or two, not just assholes ragebaiting.

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                20 days ago

                My interpretation of gamergate, which I was there watching it happen live, was very very different than the popular narrative about it.

                But hey, what do I know, I only lived through it. I didn’t read about it through a bunch of idiot mainstream journalists who only focused on the ‘evil men vs innocent women’ narrative to score the post clicks.

                A lot of the ‘harassment’ that the key female figures received, never had any evidence. I also knew Zoey Quin, I went out with her on a date in 2011. She was an absolute nutcase, probably had BPD or something. Her grasp on reality was very tenuous before gamergate, so I doubt anything she said about those event was remotely truthful. And I’m sure her boyfriend there was also equally mentally ill.

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                  20 days ago

                  Oh holy shit you’re literally a gamergater. Fuckin, and you just admit that to people? You’re literally the guy in the fuckin meme, holy shit.

                • velma@sh.itjust.works
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                  20 days ago

                  I don’t believe a single word of this comment, but especially that you went on a date with Zoey Quin.

              • velma@sh.itjust.works
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                20 days ago

                There were very real tantrums about this. Look at the reaction to the new God of War.

                Pretending like incels don’t whine about the “integrity of their games” and “woke bullshit” is silly.

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                  I know. Just saying it’s not clear in this instance. It seems almost too ridiculous to be real, but it could be.

  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    20 days ago

    Just wait until they find out about how pubic hair works!

    When I was a teenager, my porn obsessed guy friend eventually… tried to hook up with a girl (he was eventually unsuccessful). Hours later, his disgusted shocked complaints and confusion about the overgrowth amused and embarrassed us all. Like he expected this normal person to be like what he saw in the videos online.

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      I had a guy friend who made out with a girl he thought was hot, and he was shocked and disgusted by the amount of peach fuzz that was visible on her face up close. He lost interest in her because of it.

      I hooked up with this guy later on, and he made a comment about how much arm hair I had. It seemed weird to me because we’d known each other for years. The fact that I don’t wax my arms shouldn’t have been a shock.

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    I mean yes, but also is that really detail we need in a game? I would rather have better performance tbh.

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      21 days ago

      Wouldn’t it be a similar amount of graphics used as putting in a man’s beard?

      Horizon Forbidden West was designed to run on most people’s PCs and the PS5.

      Real representation of women in media is important, yes.

      With Horizon Forbidden West now available on PC, benchmarks have revealed whether the game plays better on AMD or Nvidia hardware. While GeForce GPUs put in a respectable performance, it’s clear that the port runs best on Radeon graphics cards.

      Despite its origins as a PlayStation 5 exclusive, you don’t need the best graphics card to play Horizon Forbidden West. In fact, the game appears to run well on aging pixel pushers, providing you’re willing to turn down a few settings and make use of dynamic resolution scaling (DRS).

      AMD’s victory in Forbidden West has been certified by Computer Base, which tested more than ten graphics cards across multiple generations and manufacturers, using a Ryzen 9 7950X3D CPU to get its results.

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        21 days ago

        Normally you don’t see the individual hairs with a mans beard do you? More of a mesh and texture over it.

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          Actually starting about ten fifteen years ago it was a big trend in games to add realistic hair that models individual strands and how they react to movement and gravity. Bunch of games have a real hair setting or something like that, Witcher 3 did it and boy did you need a beefy rig to handle that when it came out.

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            20 days ago

            Back then it was TressFX and NVIDIA HairWorks. Real good hair with physics is making a comeback, that new Dragon Age no one played has excellent hair.

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              I played it! It was a pretty good game if a bit too PG. Terrible dragon age though. I do not know who thought nice-washing the literally grittiest most grim dark violent fantasy IP was a good idea.

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                20 days ago

                It started as a live-service game (cause Anthem was such a success for EA), so they had to file all the edges for mass marketability.