Oats, enough water to form a dough. Maybe some salt.

Tempted to try using an oat sourdough starter though.

Fair point, the heat here is more tolerable by a lake or the sea too.

I live by the sea but can’t spend all day there.

UK train prices are terrible, it’s cheaper to fly to Germany, drink as much as you can, throw up all over your hotel room and then fly to Scotland the next day than it is to take a train from southern England to Scotland.

Hearing so many people in the UK say they want to go somewhere hot like Spain for summer. Its too fucking hot here! Why do you want to go somewhere worse! I would want to go to Finland.

People should stop doing that

At this point I’ll gladly bake oat bannocks over the burning ruins of the US economy to survive.

Luigi did the right thing. Can I join?

Bricks are also fireproof and yet we still have house fires in the UK. Even if your walls don’t burn, things like furniture, garden plants, trees, wood fences all burn.

Wouldn’t cold water get warm very quickly? I have thought of ice though. If you wrapped it up enough so that it takes up heat fairly slowly.

Oh we talking about outdoor knives? Then yeah morakniv is good for the budget end and you don’t really need to spend more unless you are just showing off

I use it for things I rarely ever use, like the microwave.

I would get rid of it but sometimes when we invite people over to have food and they bring microwave meals.

20 is one thing, sounds like those knives are a lot more though. Getting the impression £20 or so is a pretty good price point for a knife.

So far I have sharpened a few times using the base of a mug. Its not a great surface to use but I have a few shitty novelty mugs no one is going to use so it works.

Got some clay in the garden, almost tempting to form it into a tile and use that as a sharpening stone. But stone probably lasts longer.

So unless fertiliser results in more than 30x yield, the cow is worse than eating the food directly.

Only thing is if its grass fed then its food humans can’t eat. But grain or soy fed cattle? We could eat that! And I can’t imagine many people are using fertiliser to grow grass. Well, except people into lawns.

Yes. Please do that.

Are energy costs soaring? They just dropped VAT on electricity, my bill is dropping quite a bit.

I’ll take solar panels though. Want to see what kind of pricing they come in at. Could even stick some on top of my heat pump.

Think I will stick with my current knives then. Around £20 or so for the small ones, maybe twice as much for the big one.

Do need to sharpen them at some point. Probably could do with a decent sharpening stone too. Have thought of just smoothing a stone tile/brick and using that as one.

That is kinda like earth tubes isn’t it? Which you could retrofit. More powerful cooling can be achieved by using the tubes as part of a geothermal heat pump. Bonus there is that its also even more efficient than a regular heat pump in winter too.

You can ventilate periodically, air doesn’t hold that much thermal energy. You can also use heat recovery ventilation, should work in reverse to keep the heat out too.

Given the amount of food that is lost in making meat, could this be more a case of just having to change what people eat rather than the apocalypse that some seem to make it sound like?

The amount of land and water required to feed someone on beef, compared to the amount required to feed them oats?

Now I am curious how that looks with fertiliser too. Kcal yield of growing oats without fertiliser compared to kcal yield of beef even if you use fertiliser to grow their food.