WYSIWYG has been around so long that people forget markup languages and batch text processing have been around for a long time. LaTeX and Groff seem to be the sole survivors.
Ah yes, the humour effect bias. In case nobody noticed, everybody chose Alien Language.
Well what the fuck is a machine language?
Is is data transmitted between parties (machines) to convey information? HTML fits this definition.
Do they mean machine code? Because some call machine code “machine language”.
Either way the answer is D.
That question just gave me anxiety. That is exactly the type of question I would get. Technically it’s not but does the people who wrote that think that? Is it a trap question or a smart question? Omg I gotta not think about this anymore…
Exactly, maybe the person who wrote it thinks its a programming language, maybe machine language is defined as a language that can be interpreted by a machine.
Phones a friend = no one answers.
I fucking hate these kinds of questions. D is the CORRECT answer because TECHNICALLY html is a markup language and not a programming language but the average person irl will just call you a dipshit for trying to explain that. If this were a question on a shitty academic exam, its going to be a 50/50 toss up on which will get counted as correct because the Autograder Bot Knows All™ but you better not fucking use AI to get your low effort AI-generated homework done quicker because fuck you.
Tell the moderator, let him ask production. You’re not playing in a black box.
I would answer B even though D is correct. There is no technicality about. B is wrong.
Bro if someone called me a dipshit for a technicality in a contest where money is at stake? They are a dipshit. Being serious about the questions is the point.
Thought exactly the same. I’d like to know how the legal side would look like. Let’s say you say D. Could you go to court if they say it’s wrong?
Guessing you have to sign a release/arbitration/“suck it” agreement when you agree to come on the show.
And even D is a paradoxical non-answer.
(Just like my D 🥲)
I mean it could easily be considered a machine language
Next you’re calling a word document a programming language (no, not VBA).
Not expected Amitabh Bacchan and Indian who wants to be a Millonaire or Kaun bane ga Crorepati. Lemmy has got me suprised. Also HTML is markup not a programming language.
It looks like this is a photo taken by a potato of a magazine photo that was taken by a potato
Ackshually it’s a markup language not a programming language Picks D and loses $1 million
wait D was not the correct answer?
D is the correct answer, but do you trust a game show to know that?
HTML : Coding Language
there we go, nobody complians about programming languages
Is Machine Language even a well defined thing? I would think of assembly but I don’t know where to draw the line
I’ve never heard the term. Only machine code, which i interpret as 1/0. Assembly should be a very low level programing language?
Wikipedia, defines machine code and machine language too apparently.
Hyper Text Machine Language
This will be the next big thing. I’m going to write a Lemmy server in this.
*stares at chatgpt* all language is now machine language
It’s right there in the name: it’s a markup language. Hyper Text Markup Language. HTML.
How To Meet Ladies.
Huge Turd Must Laugh
Thanks, now I’m a huge turd
Omg, you gave me a great idea. Don’t ask how. Updated it.
There is a difference between “markup language” and “programming language”.
That’s the point isn’t it? Or did you mean that with a question mark attached?
The only correct answer is D, and it got the least votes. 😋
That’s the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn’t determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn’t a programming language either but a snake
Welcome to germany. Many name for new thing just description of thing. Why not more language do that? Very useful.
Fun fact python was named after Monty python, not the snake.
If it walks like a snake and quacks line a snake…
What was Monty Python named after?
“Monty” was selected (Eric Idle’s idea) as a gently mocking tribute to Field Marshal Lord Montgomery, a British general of World War II; requiring a “slippery-sounding” surname, they settled on “Python”. Flying Circus stuck when the BBC explained it had printed that name in its schedules and was not prepared to amend it.
Monty Python was named after Monty Python was named after Monty Python was named after…
Based on this post it seems M. Python is the scientific name for the Ouroboros
Then what is M. Bison the scientific name for?
Raul Julia, of course
The Red Baron.
his parents i think
I think it got inspired by our lord and savior Brian
The name itself doesn’t determine the meaning.
The name in this case is defined by the meaning if you will. Programming languages are used to write programs. A HTML file is much closer to a PDF than to what can be considered a program.
Also fun fact python is named after the comedy group Monty Python rather than the snake.
Actually, PDF is a turing complete programming language.
PDF is a simplification and wrapper around the computer language PostScript - a PostScript or PDF doc literally runs on the printer or computer and outputs the rasterisation of the thing you want to print.
PostScript is language based around a stack. You can define functions (which may be fully recursive) that run on the stack.
Here’s a small example:
/ANGLE { newpath 100 0 moveto 0 0 lineto 100 50 lineto stroke } def 10 setlinewidth 0 setlinejoin 100 200 translate ANGLE 1 setlinejoin 0 70 translate ANGLE 2 setlinejoin 0 70 translate ANGLEAs such, PDF that’s actually similar to Python, and HTML is closer to something like a JSON or XML document.
Note however that HTML can contain Javscript or WASM programs, but these are embedded rather than features of HTML.
Well, TIL! Thank you!
HTML5 + CSS3 seems to be Turing complete too: https://lemire.me/blog/2011/03/08/breaking-news-htmlcss-is-turing-complete/
Forgive me if this sounds rude but it’s the best way to explain in my mind, please take it in jest.
- lemon is sweet.
+ no, lemon is sour.
- well, Lemmon+sugar is sweet.
+ ???
Consider me outjerked 🎩🤏
Ok, but hear me out. Have you seen most Python code?
snake_case_ftw
Point taken
From Gryffindor and awarded to Slytherin
Can someone clarify what the answer should be and what was the answer on the show?
There is a running joke that some people falsely consider HTML a programming language which it is not. So it’s D. I didn’t watch the show but I assume that’s it and the joke is that the audience’s majority took alien language
Interestingly C and D are both programming languages. That is, there is a programming languages called C and another, D.
I’ll see myself out…
A and B are also programming languages. A is an APL implementation and B is a precursor of C.
https://aplwiki.com/wiki/A https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_(programming_language)
Yes, C is alien language pretty often. The other half it is wizardry.
Trying to remember from automata theory, does the empty set accept an empty grammar?
Like how in some languages an empty source file is valid? So then “none” is a programming language with an empty language grammar?
I don’t even know why it wouldn’t/shouldn’t be considered a programming language. It’s a language, and it’s used to code instructions for something… What more does it need?
With a programming language you tell a computer what to do. With a markup language, which HTML is, you tell a computer what to show. Much different.
You wouldn’t want to mix them up. The precise distinction is what the web makes so beautifully scalable.
Html does not contain instructions, just well ordered data. “schematics” if you may.
Do you program a document in Word?
- macros excluded
What about Excel? First reply I got said it has to make programs, right? I can make a Tetris clone in Excel. 🤣
Well, you can’t make Tetris in HTML without including some other language that has loops and variables.
I’m also not sure if you can do it in Excel without using VBA, which is a programming language. Excel doesn’t do circular logic in the document sheets.
Anyway the issue or joke is the lack of definition of “programming”.
HTML is a text encoding system. It’s not that different form something like the Morse code. It’s only instructions for how to decipher a series of codes. It takes input and presents it as an output, starting from the beginning and working its way to the end.
In my very unofficial opinion, a “program” is something that is able to “run” by itself, so that the code itself has instructions for which part of the code to run.
If you decipher a morse code, it doesn’t suddenly have instructions that force you to go backwards in the code and decipher from there or to jump to different sections. The text output might tell you to do so, but if you follow the text, then you’re doing something else than deciphering morse code.
HTML works the same. It start from the top and interprets its way down. It can have some conditional statements, but nothing that will make it go backwards and rerun the same instructions again.
The interpretation is of course more advanced than Morse code and it can call other languages to do stuff, so HTML is basically a document describing a job procedure in that way. The individual jobs can be reoccurring tasks, but the document itself isn’t.
So in my opinion it’s not “running” anything. It’s just a document being printed on screen.
Excel formulas have become Turing complete with the LAMBDA addition.
Good to know.
It seems kind of half assed though.
I’ve only used it briefly to access the filesystem. Having to paste code into the reference field in the name manager is a special kind of masochistic practice.
It’s a huge pain, especially considering selection shortcuts are overwritten.
I dont work with Excel anymore, but there are python scripts on github to help with lamba management via export/import.
Excel has conditional logic, HTML does not
We aren’t talking about Excel, but about Word.
We do that to explain that HTML is nothing more than to display text in a certain layout, just like a Word document. The only difference is that Word is designed to be printed, while HTML is designed to display on a website.
Also, exclude VBA as well as macros. VBA is a programming language.
macros excluded
HTML doesn’t have IF or loops. It’s just formatting text.
When I tell you it’s gonna sound obvious but it’s because you don’t use it to write programs. It’s a formatting tool more than anything.
What really has my brain in a knot is: Does option “D: None of these” include or exclude option D?
This statement is false.
It’s clearly not the US version, so we should assume this is a translation error for the “none of these” instead of “none of the above” perhaps.
That’s why it should be “none of the above”. And if there’s a “all of the above”, it must come right before the “none of the above”.
They’re not above. One of them is to the left.
Or address them:
Either* A, B, C;Is only A supposed to be a pointer?
Asking the real questions.
