• Akasazh@feddit.nl
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      4 months ago

      The obligatory article is not as good:

      How To Pronounce Makaron Z Serem?

      Makaron z serem is pronounced ma-kah-ron z seh-rehm.

      Very enlightening

    • sudneo@lemm.ee
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      4 months ago

      Completely different dough in terms of consistency and taste. Bread and pizza are quite different, so many ingredients that work on pizza don’t work on sandwiches and vice versa. Having said that, people can eat what they please.

    • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk
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      4 months ago

      To (controversially) go one step further, all unsweetened carbohydrate bases are interchangeable.

      You can put pasta topping on a pizza, you can put pizza topping on rice, you can put toastie fillings on a potato waffle and it always ends up nice.

        • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk
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          4 months ago

          Mix rice up with tomato sauce, melt a bit of mozzarella cheese in, some slices of pepperoni in it, sprinkle in some basil and oregano… check behind you that nobody can see you commit culinary crimes… delicious.

    • NielsBohron@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 months ago

      This seems sounds this is a good metric on the surface, but let’s try it out.

      Corned beef on pizza? Sounds great. Sauerkraut? Uhh, ok, maybe. Mayonnaise? What the actual fuck…

  • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I despise this traditional “that doesn’t go on that dish” bullshit.

    It was that way with the food where I’m from and well and now the new generation is doing whatever they want with those traditional recipes and making them modern and it’s amazing. If you don’t like pineapple on your pizza don’t have it. But shut the fuck up with your “that’s not a pizza”. You sound like my great grandma

    Edit: I’m from El Salvador and people used to freak out if you suggested that pupusas should have more variety than just pork, cheese and beans. They’d yell at you that it wasn’t traditional. Now the young generation is making pupusas with chicken, fish, shrimp, sweet potato, zucchini, and so on, and it’s amazing!

    • Grass@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      the worst is when people are like this for a dish that was invented as a way to use the shitty limited ingredients of the area because everyone was poor and that’s all they had back then. That’s not even tradition. Or slightly less annoying is when people try your traditional dish from the country your family comes from and say its not correct in some way, but they are from one of the 6 neighboring countries with pretty much the same food but the name is spelled slightly different and have regional plants as seasoning instead.

        • Grass@sh.itjust.works
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          4 months ago

          I don’t really see being poor as a tradition. I’ve seen enough people present racism as a tradititon and I don’t like that either. My dad has been facebook’d and keeps wanting to do ancient medicines because “the government took them away from us”, and has asked where to get some definitely dangerous substances. There are indeed a lot of things people call tradition that I don’t like.

          I don’t think changing a couple ingredients breaks tradition when most old recipes were just throwing whatever we had together and trying to make it at least minimally enjoyable for bonus points. I guess it’s different for wealthy people in the past much like it is now, but if it could be improved cheaply or for free when it was new either due to ingredients or skills and knowledge, everyone would have done it. Some things were probably also just good enough that nobody bothered changing it, but now most people are conditioned to really high sugar and salt or just stronger flavour in general.

          Actually one of my time travel fantasy wishes is to see people in the last eat the modern versions of their favourite food. I’d feel bad about shocking their systems with large doses (to them) of microplastics, pesticides, and who knows what else though.

  • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 months ago

    Considering tomatoes aren’t even from Europe the Italians can think whatever they want about pizza, they’re not experts, they’re just as wrong as everyone else.

  • norimee@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I don’t think its the same than combining a sweet fruit with tomato sauce and cheese.

    Pasta by itself is basically neutral in taste. You can easily make them into a sweet dish. I sometimes like to eat them with applesauce.

    Just to clarify, I wouldn’t order or make pizza with pineapple for myself, but I don’t think it’s that big of a deal people sometimes make it.
    Just eat what you like and don’t force your taste on others.

    • butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Yeah I once lived with a family in Eastern Europe who would sometimes make dessert ravioli by filling it with fruit and sugar and dusting it with powdered sugar. It was obviously a very different dish than savory pasta but really good actually.

      • sudneo@lemm.ee
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        4 months ago

        I will go out on a limb here and guess those were not ravioli and some form of pelmeni instead? There are types of them that are usually eaten with sour cream and jam. But the dough used is quite different from the ravioli one, and the filling is cheese (not meat or ricotta/spinach).

        Was that the case?

        • butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world
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          4 months ago

          Actually no! But I think they were inspired by pelmeni, but this was ravioli dough. It was in Moldova though, and much of the family had moved to Italy for temporary work. I’m guessing it was a fusion cooking experiment and turned out great and they kept doing it. It started spreading through the town lol. But hey, if it’s good it’s good.

    • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 months ago

      See, the problem is that pizza often gets shared, and these barbarians will order it with pineapple physically on it, like put right on a perfectly good ham pizza, so then you have to pull the pineapple off, let the dog lick the pineapple juice from the pineapple holes, and then you can eat it, but you still can taste the lingering traces of a fruit that should, by all the laws of man and god, be used exclusively in deserts.

      It’s an affront against nature and pizza.

      Downvote away, but you know deep in your heart of hearts that I’m right.

      • norimee@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Dude. Your problem is not the pineapple, but that you are apparently surrounded by inconsiderate people.

        If you get pizza or any food to share, you should make sure you choose a topping everyone is okay with. If necessary make it half pineapple half pepperoni or whatever.

        If you order for a group of people and choose something that is controversial without checking back, you’re an asshole.

    • Agent641@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Pasta is egg and flour. Cake is egg and flour. Society has decided that egg and flour has to be maked in a particular shape and cooked in a particular way to have strawberries with it.

    • ivanafterall ☑️@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Pasta by itself is basically neutral in taste. You can easily make them into a sweet dish. I sometimes like to eat them with applesauce.

      Please explain yourself. You can’t just say this like it’s normal and morally/ethically acceptable.

      • norimee@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        What is there to explain? If you don’t add any savory ingredients to pasta it is not salty or savory in taste.

        Same as you can prepare rice savory or sweet as rice pudding or something.
        You do now “pasta” just means the noodle, right? It’s still pasta if you don’t add anything?
        There are lots of sweet pasta dishes in the world like sweet kugel or milk noodles.

        I just add (cold) applesauce onto (warm) noodles and eat it. If I’m fancy, I make applesauce from fresh apples.

        Also, look up portugese Aletria. That’s angle hair pasta as it’s best.

  • Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Are you being forced to eat it? If not I’d say stop giving a fuck so hard about what other people like or how they live their lives by things that shouldn’t affect you. You can’t control them. Live and let live. That’s the feel.

    And if you’re still not satisfied and have the burning desire to feel outraged, Find something for real to be outrageous about. Like current wars or stupid candidates or fixing up dumb city laws that hurt innocent citizens. Go to a rally to defend some human rights or something like that. Get juicy with your rage.