• portuga@lemmy.world
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    I’m Portuguese and I’ve seen that abomination here. I’m sorry, I thought it was contained. Now, have you guys heard about chocolate pizza for dessert?

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    Are you being forced to eat it? If not I’d say stop giving a fuck so hard about what other people like or how they live their lives by things that shouldn’t affect you. You can’t control them. Live and let live. That’s the feel.

    And if you’re still not satisfied and have the burning desire to feel outraged, Find something for real to be outrageous about. Like current wars or stupid candidates or fixing up dumb city laws that hurt innocent citizens. Go to a rally to defend some human rights or something like that. Get juicy with your rage.

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    2 years ago

    I actually don’t mind pineapple on pizza, but let me say that after reading this post I understand the haters if this is how they see it

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      2 years ago

      Completely different dough in terms of consistency and taste. Bread and pizza are quite different, so many ingredients that work on pizza don’t work on sandwiches and vice versa. Having said that, people can eat what they please.

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      2 years ago

      To (controversially) go one step further, all unsweetened carbohydrate bases are interchangeable.

      You can put pasta topping on a pizza, you can put pizza topping on rice, you can put toastie fillings on a potato waffle and it always ends up nice.

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          2 years ago

          Mix rice up with tomato sauce, melt a bit of mozzarella cheese in, some slices of pepperoni in it, sprinkle in some basil and oregano… check behind you that nobody can see you commit culinary crimes… delicious.

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      2 years ago

      This seems sounds this is a good metric on the surface, but let’s try it out.

      Corned beef on pizza? Sounds great. Sauerkraut? Uhh, ok, maybe. Mayonnaise? What the actual fuck…

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      For what is worth, that’s not how (most?) Italians think about pizza. It’s not a “container” in which you put a bunch of things, but each pizza type is basically a separate dish.

      I personally don’t care what people put on their pizza, I simply avoid places that make “pizzas” in a non-italian fashion, like the american (supposedly NY style) ones where you get crust, 2 fingers of industrial cheese and a whole plant of oregano.

      It’s very similar for pasta, which many people think as a bread replacement.

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        2 years ago

        This is why their pizzas are so boring. One or two toppings. Come on, get creative with it, Guissepe.

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          Most of Italian recipes are very simple. The focus usually is on quality on the ingredients and if they are good, a pizza with just mozzarella and tomatoes is already delicious. That said, even in Italy there are plenty of types of pizzas, but most of them don’t have 20 ingredients, I suppose the point is that you actually want to taste what you eat, which is not the case when you mix many different things. There is a very messy and rich pizza (capricciosa) with a lot of toppings though (more than one obviously, but this is the most common).

          Personally I am a margherita person, simple and boring is perfect, as long as it tastes great.

          P.s. Giuseppe :)

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            That makes sense. But also I find it amusing because Romans had the opposite attitude with food of “you know what everything I ever eat needs? A fuck ton of fermented fish sauce”. Which like, both attitudes are great, but it is an amusing evolution of culture over two millennia

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              It actually makes sense, because Italian history is far from a continuum. In fact, most “Italian cuisine” is actually less than 100 years old!

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              Romans were food snobs too, though. One common insult was “chickpea-eater” because roasted chickpeas were poor people food. Thing is, roasted chickpeas are fucking delicious - I really wish fresh chickpeas in the pod were easier to find (in the US).

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      That’s cuz you never had a proper napolitan pizza you uncultured swine. You’d never open your mouth about pizza again, or call anything you can buy in your America a pizza.

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      Preach. My favorite pizza of the last few years is with sliced kebap meat with sauce hollandaise. Sounds disgusting, looks not that appetizing but it’s fucking amazing.

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      2 years ago

      So, not carbonara. Pasta with lemon is awesome, I also love pasta with tuna, both also work together, but it’s not a carbonara.

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    I don’t think its the same than combining a sweet fruit with tomato sauce and cheese.

    Pasta by itself is basically neutral in taste. You can easily make them into a sweet dish. I sometimes like to eat them with applesauce.

    Just to clarify, I wouldn’t order or make pizza with pineapple for myself, but I don’t think it’s that big of a deal people sometimes make it.
    Just eat what you like and don’t force your taste on others.

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      2 years ago

      Pasta is egg and flour. Cake is egg and flour. Society has decided that egg and flour has to be maked in a particular shape and cooked in a particular way to have strawberries with it.

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      Pasta by itself is basically neutral in taste. You can easily make them into a sweet dish. I sometimes like to eat them with applesauce.

      Please explain yourself. You can’t just say this like it’s normal and morally/ethically acceptable.

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        What is there to explain? If you don’t add any savory ingredients to pasta it is not salty or savory in taste.

        Same as you can prepare rice savory or sweet as rice pudding or something.
        You do now “pasta” just means the noodle, right? It’s still pasta if you don’t add anything?
        There are lots of sweet pasta dishes in the world like sweet kugel or milk noodles.

        I just add (cold) applesauce onto (warm) noodles and eat it. If I’m fancy, I make applesauce from fresh apples.

        Also, look up portugese Aletria. That’s angle hair pasta as it’s best.

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      See, the problem is that pizza often gets shared, and these barbarians will order it with pineapple physically on it, like put right on a perfectly good ham pizza, so then you have to pull the pineapple off, let the dog lick the pineapple juice from the pineapple holes, and then you can eat it, but you still can taste the lingering traces of a fruit that should, by all the laws of man and god, be used exclusively in deserts.

      It’s an affront against nature and pizza.

      Downvote away, but you know deep in your heart of hearts that I’m right.

      • norimee@lemmy.world
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        Dude. Your problem is not the pineapple, but that you are apparently surrounded by inconsiderate people.

        If you get pizza or any food to share, you should make sure you choose a topping everyone is okay with. If necessary make it half pineapple half pepperoni or whatever.

        If you order for a group of people and choose something that is controversial without checking back, you’re an asshole.

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      Yeah I once lived with a family in Eastern Europe who would sometimes make dessert ravioli by filling it with fruit and sugar and dusting it with powdered sugar. It was obviously a very different dish than savory pasta but really good actually.

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        I will go out on a limb here and guess those were not ravioli and some form of pelmeni instead? There are types of them that are usually eaten with sour cream and jam. But the dough used is quite different from the ravioli one, and the filling is cheese (not meat or ricotta/spinach).

        Was that the case?

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          Actually no! But I think they were inspired by pelmeni, but this was ravioli dough. It was in Moldova though, and much of the family had moved to Italy for temporary work. I’m guessing it was a fusion cooking experiment and turned out great and they kept doing it. It started spreading through the town lol. But hey, if it’s good it’s good.

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    In Poland, some people put fruit juice in their beer (piwo z sokiem), and it is fucking delicious

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      As a German I have to say that do this kind of regularly. But only with alcohol free wheat beer and grapefruit juice. Really great drink after sport or a long hike

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      Fruity beer is also common in Belgium. It’s not mixed with juice but is already flavored in the bottle as you buy it. And yes, it’s delicious. Kriek for instance is a pretty famous cherry flavored beer.

      Also non-alcaholic beer mixed with juice is a pretty decent drink after sports. The slight bitterness and the bubbles makes it really refreshing on hot days.

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        It’s not about a flavoured beer - there’s plenty of em. This is about a concentrated form of juice you usually dilute in water. You put it into beer, it turns reddish-pink and a lot of people preffer to drink it that way

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          Pubs in the UK used to (or still do?) have blackcurrant and lime cordial for this.

          “Lager and Lime”, “Lager and Blackcurrant” and “Cider and Blackcurrant” were pretty common 20-30 years ago. A shot of cordial (concentrated juice), then filled up with lager beer.

          There was also orange cordial behind the bar, but nobody ever drank “Lager and orange”. I believe it was some form of crime.

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            Here it’s most often raspberry syrup with beer. Lots of women like it, takes the bitterness out of it. Worth trying if you haven’t, the raspberry stuff is in every store basically even abroad, mix with your regular old light beer

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            There’s also snakebite, which IIRC is Lager, Cider, and a shot of blackcurrant cordial. A great drink to get you off your tits when you’re young.

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              From where I lived, just the lager and cider together was snakebite, and with blackcurrant it was a “snakebite and black” - but I think there was a lot of regional variety (in the UK, at least).

              I have heard lager/cider/blackcurrant called a snakebite before though (I remember it causing a disagreement in the pub) - but I’ve also heard it called a “diesel” (which elsewhere was something mixed with guinness). I’m pretty sure you sometimes got different things in different pubs in the same town.

              I suppose pre-internet, we were just relying on the drunk people ordering things to decide what they wanted to call stuff (“what was that purple mixed drink called that made me throw up on my own shoes?”).

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                Yeah, I only ever heard of it from others that had ordered it before. Here in Bristol it was with blackcurrant, but have seen a few different takes in the midlands and London. Weirdly, I had heard of a Diesel too, but knew it as both a Guinness shandy with blackcurrant, and as a blue WKD with coke.

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    Considering tomatoes aren’t even from Europe the Italians can think whatever they want about pizza, they’re not experts, they’re just as wrong as everyone else.

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      The obligatory article is not as good:

      How To Pronounce Makaron Z Serem?

      Makaron z serem is pronounced ma-kah-ron z seh-rehm.

      Very enlightening