alt account is Adrian Dittman
Can’t wait to hear the knowledge fight guys humbly eat crow on that one…
I get where they were coming from. It was almost too silly to believe.
But yeah, I hope they do own up quick.
The silliness isn’t what convinced me they were different people, it was the fact that Dittman could string a sentence together whereas every time I’ve heard Elon without a script (which really isn’t often, probably never outside of KF) there have been so many ums and ahs that communicating a single point would take a lifetime. Maybe having less pressure on him as Dittman helps.
That right there is something I’ve always found grating about hearing him speak. When you hear someone intelligent speak, sometimes they use those placeholder umms and ahhs but he’s only using them to keep the attention on himself–to not cede the floor to another speaker.
Despite how much/little value there is in his input, i think he’s also using the extra time bought by those umms as a chance to try to remember/choose fancy words to dress up the thought he may be attempting to convey. Chances are he’s not saying anything of value, but he’s trying to speak as though his every word is profound. It’s gotta be an ego thing, but probably also numerous other things too. He’s so multidimensional 🥴
You mean comorbid.
Alright, I just woke up so I might not see the obvious, but apart from the almost surreal butt licking, what is the sign (proof?) here that this Dittman’s account is actually Elon’s? Sorry, I have never used Twitter or X.
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Thanks for context, this is indeed horribly childish.
He made a lot of critical errors because he doesn’t understand that for a sock puppet to be effective in the long run, it has to do 3 things:
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it has to post regularly
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it has to post differently than you do. If it disagrees with you broadly that’s even better.
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It can only show up in your defense at critical moments and with almost visible hesitancy e.g. “I am a huge critic of Musk, especially on [issue A], but on this [Issue B] I actually think he makes a salient point.”
You get the most use out of sock puppets by letting them moderate your position to make it more palatable to the public without actually having to moderate your position.
Anything less than the 3 above makes it a liability. Especially when you sloppily juggle several.
So instead of sock puppet he just demoted himself to “ban evading forum troll on the website he bought.” LOL
Honestly I’m surprised he doesn’t have like five minions doing this for him.
See while I don’t agree with your argument on his critical errors, you make a salient point on the list of things required to pull sock puppeting off.
This guy fucks
Bravo lol
richest man in the world can’t be bothered to hire a couple of flunkies to sock puppet for him.
jfc…
To have that, you need people you actually trust.
Elon musk trusts no one. His circle is a bunch of yes men who have willingly sold their soul to agree with whatever crazy shit Musk wants.
Musk is smart enough to know that. While also not smart enough to build a team he fully trusts.
Someone’s read speaker for the dead 🤣
Locke vs demonsthenes
Ha at least it was two (highly coordinated) people!
This sounds like a headache. I can barely juggle my account, I can’t imagine two or more.
When you’re a petulant billionaire you think you can do these things effectively.
More evidence CEOs really don’t do much: He has the time to do this, despite being CEO of how many companies?
I once tried to have a throwaway “talk crap about my job account” but it got a little boring and didn’t even provide catharsis since nobody engaged with it lol.
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This link where he’s playing Dittman and he says something along the lines of “her problem was clearly not with the product but with Elon because I was the first thing she posted about.”
Also, in this article’s sound clip, you can hear the similarities. Elon was not on this call, that was “Dittman”.
Ahhahaha, thanks for the context! This is hilariously bad from his part.
I can’t believe I am better at faking identities than Elon
Where’s the voicechanger? That’s just clearly Elon.
I’ve worked in a taxi dispatch taking hundreds of calls a day for some years and even though I do say so myself, I think I have a pretty good ear.
And his… I don’t know what to even call it, but like there’s this very specific sound when he speaks. Creaking sort of.
This is very clearly him. Is that supposed to be through a voicechanger? Because maybe I’ve not listened to him in any media for a while so I don’t remember the tone and that doesn’t seem weird to me for that reason, but it’s just very unmistakably Elon, lol.
So he hasn’t even the mental capacity to keep an act up, without his narcissism interfering?
Wow… let that sink in…
His narcissism is why he was doing it in the first place.
Orly? Thought his alt account was ‘Leroy Jenkins’?
Why would he make a social media account under a fake name, instead of using his real name but make everyone think it’s an unverified parody account to say whatever he wants and never get suspected?
It’s not that bloody difficult.
Yes, however you see the issue here is that you have an IQ higher than room temperature water, and muskrat does not.
He couldn’t even invent a vaguely clever ploy. That fucking brainlet just took the resources available to him and assembled the most basic bitch plan ever, “Hur dur fake account, but add voice changer.” Further proof that Elon Musk is a fucking idiot who couldn’t invent his way out of a wet paper bag.
Yes. How very Ken of him.
This kind of behavior is alarming. When this mFer crashes and burns he’s taking as many people with him as possible. Maybe even all of western civilization.
Makes you wonder what other stupid shit he’s up to that we don’t know of yet. Man is completely deranged and it would be sad if it wasn’t so dangerous.
I mean, blocking Ukrainians from using Starlink at key moments at the request of Putin is surely a start.
The man is a freak. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s as depraved and sick as Epstein was.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/business/elon-musk-children-compound.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html
Shareholders gotta love that.
I suspected a few years ago when the Twitter purchase was going on. That when he was sued to carry out the purchase. That was when he decided he was going to use Twitter as a mechanism of his own personal information warfare.
Mask off cartoonishly evil person does cartoonishly evil things
Space karen is a pathetic piece of human garbage
Doesn’t he have enough money to just pay people to setup friendly accounts? I hate Musk’s ass, but if he wants to put me on his payroll to kiss his ass on the internet, I’m for sale. $200k/year and I will sing his praises far and wide.
$200k a year could buy an entire army of bots and trolls. He doesn’t need to bother with paying individual people, when a company with borderline slave labor will do it en masse for a penny per post.
His ego is way too big for that so he needs to trick himself into strong enough cognitive dissonance and he gets that by buying people of indirectly. Tale as old as time.
He’s got literally no humans or animals that like him irl. He already is paying people for this job. He bought Twitter to be his friend so he could spend all his free time on there which is a lot and it won’t look as weird since he owns it. Guys brain is more cooked than a nfl player with cte.
He bought Twitter because he wanted to pump the stock up, presumably so that he could dump his stock. The timeline is that Elon talked about taking Twitter private, paying 420$ per share, because 420 is the funny marijuana number. Twitter’s board then agreed to the buyout, since Elon’s offer was far more than what the company was actually worth. Elon tried to weasel out of the deal, but Twitter successfully sued him to force him into buying Twitter.
That’s not how taking Twitter private works… What are you 5?
Except that’s what happened. Go home, Russian bot.
Then how does it work? Enlighten me.
Haha I got a good laugh XD. But seriously though, I wouldn’t propagandize for that monster to set me up for life.
I shudder to imagine how much of yourself would erode over time, being a flattering mouthpiece for, and being bankrolled by, such an evil villain.
Personally, I’ll keep my struggles lol.
This hypothetical situation reminds me of some passages that have stuck with me for life:
“A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches.” (Proverbs 22:1)
““For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?" (Mark 8:36 NASB)
I shudder to imagine how much of yourself would erode over time, being a flattering mouthpiece for, and being bankrolled by, such an evil villain.
Are you familiar with the mouth of Sauron?
He’ll get someone on an H1B Visa to do it for $45k
Hell get someone for $45
…i hear that in south asia, twenty dollars is twenty dollars…
45k still double what I’m making ill do it fuck it
Or ~5 times my salary 🥲
Gotta love the brazilian real devaluation
I don’t think the guy has any friends, so no.
He did it on the last bastion of free speech on the internet!
It’s so hilarious how trumpkin turned on his base for musk, fuck your good paying american jobs going to american born citizens, fuck your education, we want underpaid immigrants and tax cuts while cutting social security.
I don’t think he turned on his base for musk, I think he was always lying just to get their vote. He’s a massive piece of shit that only cares about “what is good for Trump?” He doesn’t give a flying fuck or two shits from a rats ass what the base wants at all.
Trump has always just spouted talking points and word salad until something gets a good reaction and that becomes the new mantra and even government policy. Things that had a bad reaction are put in the “I never said that” box.
It’s surprisingly how much this resembles how an AI generates images. It starts with random noise and refines that into a clear image that matches the criteria.
I fucking WISH Trump was anywhere near as coherent as an LLM
I’m obviously out of the loop. What happened?
Samesies. Wtf happened? Lol
Edit:
Screw that AI noise, here’s a better article
https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/how-elon-musks-twitter-alt-account
Oh my fucking god. I only mostly read his tweets and quotes, never really hearing Musk talk much, especially not in a “debate”. I didn’t realize how incredibly childish, arrogant, and downright moronic he was in an argument. All he does is talk over a well-articulated point before the person could finish it by insulting the other party and laughing dumbly at his own joke as if he had made some sort of zinger. And the very few times he doesn’t do that he uses blatant strawman arguments.
This is literally like a child yelling back “Oh yeah?Well, your face is stupid!” How the fuck is this person the richest person on Earth? He wouldn’t even be able to keep a fast food employee job.
He’s rich cuz daddy gave him starter funds and he got lucky investing in paypal (which he tried to name X).
Our society is structured so that the rich fail upwards, and Elon is a huge failure so he floats the best.
Elon Musk is proof that being rich does not require competence, intelligence, or hard work. (Hint: it’s luck and having rich parents)
Having rich parents is part of the luck. What’s better than gambling with your vast fortune? Gambling with someone else’s vast fortune.
Actually, it also necessitates a minimal ability to play the sidelines, manipulate and trick people and a complete lack of morality to use those abilities. He didn’t found Tesla. He stole it from its original founders by placing people who were loyal to him on the board.
Makes sense why he and trump get along.
“No puppet no puppet you’re the puppet”
I am well acquainted with tricking drug addicts. I’ve been to Phish concerts.
Glorious.
Guy reads like a huge asshole in his own right though.
Yeah, he’s citing Trump, talking about symbology and Baphomet armour, presenting half-baked arguments as if he has a video of Elon saying that was him. I mean, it probably was, but this reads like a conspiracy theory
Money can buy expensive voice modulation software, but it apparently can’t buy one’s way out of stupidity. Using the same speech patterns, grammar, inflection, and laugh… he really isn’t the brightest spark in the tesla coil, is he?
Voice changer software is super cheap too
Using the same speech patterns, grammar, inflection, and laugh… he really isn’t the brightest spark in the tesla coil, is he?
To do otherwise would require the awareness that other people have different speech patterns. I’m surprised his narcissism let him think using a different name would influence people.
He never had the right to use the name Tesla, especially because Tesla was the underdog in electricity that was burned by the same capitalism he’s championing. He’s hired very smart people and then thinks that by hiring said people he’s on their level, classic capitalist mistake
I don’t know why, but I find it very funny that Elon is basically Edison and using Tesla’s name and also that there’s an underdog electric truck company named Edison motors that’s basically making a fully electric semi with an onboard motor specifically because the dude got fucked on a Tesla semi.
I think an Edison-like company appropriating Tesla’s name is peak Edison behavior.
I’m pretty sure they where named Tesla before Musk first invested in them.
For anyone who, like me, wasn’t going to play the clip at the above link, holy crap go do so. It’s incredibly comical.
Welp, even with voice modulation “Adrian” sounds just like Elon. The speech patterns line up to the point I couldn’t much tell he was using voice mod at all.
Holy shit. Elon or not that guy is embarrassing to listen to.
He adds nothing of value to the conversation and just throws insults to deflect. The most cringe worthy, brain rot insults possible.
This country is fucked.
Just another data point that shows you don’t need to be smart to be rich.
https://lemm.ee/post/51079641/17150600
Adrian Dittmann, the one replying to Musk in this tweet, is apparently Musk’s alt account.
Oh God. How pathetic is it that you create and alt to play with yourself. That’s like getting mad at your imaginary friend for ghosting you.
Don’t blue check marks get paid based on their number of views cause of ads and “creator payout” stuff? Is this Musk’s side hustle lmao
I haven’t heard a single peep of anyone getting paid by twitter since the first few checks went out. I don’t think he’s doing that anymore and it was always completely arbitrary who got paid (by which I mean it was only popular accounts that he liked).
Nah the blue check mark is quite random now that musk owns twitter
This guy’s autism is becoming palpable.
What has autism got to do with it? Sounds like you want to use what these days is considered a slur but don’t have the spine to do it.
Fine, I’ll do it. Elon Musk is retarded. Not autistic, though if he is on the spectrum that has nothing to do with it.
The guy is fucking slow. He’s the stupidest “smart” person. He may be brilliant at making money, but holy fuck does this guy hang out in the shallow end of the intellectual pool.
I’ve met birds with a better understanding of cause and effect.
Good at making money implies low morality not high intelligence and in fact iirc they’re oppositely correlated.
Good at stealing it. Making money sounds like he’s earned it somehow.
I like you. You can be easily manipulated.
True for most people, unfortunately </3
I don’t know what you’re babbling about. What autism has to do with it is his public admission of Asperger’s. You thinking autism is a slur sounds like your issue, not mine.
You all do realize that xelon is just fucked in the head right? He is utterly fucking bonkers.
I was arguing with people online that he’s a piece of shit for years and kept getting downvoted by fanboys talking about him being Tony Stark.
This isn’t some look how smart I was comment, I just assumed he was a piece of shit because he was a billionaire and I assume every billionaire is a piece of shit unless an overwhelming amount of evidence is presented.
Moral of the story is, never worship celebrities and certainly never worship billionaires, unless they are fictional ie batman, then you can like them since it’s inconsequential.
Even Batman sucks, his existence is to protect the rich.
Explain? I know he takes out big name criminals who might be upset at the system, but they’re also fucking shit up.
Batman is a rich dude who loses his parents to crime. Instead of using his vast wealth to address the root causes of crime, he goes out at night in fancy dress and beats up poor folk.
Batman is the most reactionary of superheroes, arguably worse than Punisher, and that’s even before Mark Miller got his hands on him.
Is that really about protecting the Rich though?
Not helping the poor does not equal protecting the Rich.
He’s taking his vengeance out on criminals.
Nah. It’s propping up the system. That protects the riches.
I don’t think you need to have the stipulation for evidence about billionaires not being shit. I don’t think you can be a billionaire without being shit. If you have that much money and aren’t giving it away, you’re a bad person. That’s ignoring how you got it in the first place, which basically requires unfairly benefiting from others work without compensation, excluding inheritance.
I posted a long rant about this on Mastodon. I put timeouts on my posts, though, so you’ll have to take the short form.
If someone came up to you and gave you a million dollars that you have to spend on yourself in a single day, almost anybody could quite easily do it. Most people (perhaps all people?) have a little list in the back of their mind of what they’d like to buy as a dream that’s out of reach. For instance I’d buy a nice plot of land in B.C. and build a house on it. Or I’d get a large apartment in Wuhan and fill one room with bookshelves positively dripping with books.
Now in this thought exercise this person comes back and gives you a million dollars the next day. And the next. And the next. And the next. Each day you have to spend a million dollars on yourself. Not donate to charity, not buy things for your friends. You have to spend the whole million on yourself.
How long would it take you to run out of things you really need or want? Would you last a week? A month? Well to reach a billion dollars you’d have to do this EVERY DAY FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS. Day after day you’d be spending money on more and more bizarre things. A car? Hell, no! You’ve got ten of them about now. A home? God, another one!? That would be number seven. You’d have every valuable collectible you’d ever desired, and likely multiple copies of each. This spending a million dollars a day for that long would, if you’re sane, drive you literally crazy. There’s a very real chance you’d have a nervous breakdown.
A billionaire is the person for whom this isn’t enough.
It was a mix of the constant lying about Teslas future mixed with him reminding me of a rapist I know that fixed my perception of him.
There can be no amount of evidence that could make someone a good billionaire. They get that way by stealing the rightful wages of their workers, among other nefarious schemes.
I want to lock Musk and Chris-chan into a room together and see who out crazies the other first. Bonus points if the try to breed one another first.
