Maybe she’s not that into nuggets.
I’m into nuggets.
… y’all.
There’s a bunch of context missing from this. Did he tell her hey, I know a cool way we can get free McNuggets? Or did he just ask her out, took her to McDonald’s and randomly pulled out a laptop with android emulators to get free McNuggets? Context matters a lot.
If it’s the second one, it gives me this kind of vibes:
Same. I just watched this episode 30 minutes ago too
What show?
Brooklyn Nine-Nine
Is that Jake on the ground? Lmao
Yeah, it’s flashback where he took a girl on the cheapest date possible, which involved stealing snacks from a vending machine. He immediately got stuck and the woman left.
AAAAAND now I remember the episode, tyvm
That’s kind of like going up to a display that says “free sample - one per customer” and taking several samples. And doing so on a first date, like: this is who I am. It’s not really bad or anything, it’s just… kind of weird and embarassing.
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It is overtly bad. It’s making someone’s shitty job worse because you think you’re better and so smart for beating the system. Garbage people.
Oh poor McDonald’s will never recover from this. Now they’ll have to treat staff a bit worse to clutch back part of the losses.
Is there anything that really makes their job shittier about this though? Than than dealing with three orders instead of one?
If anything with the focus these days on metrics around how fast they can serve customers these three simple orders probably made their metrics look better so they could slack off on the next few orders.
But yeah just says “I’m a cheapskate.”
It also says “I’m a cheater.” Red flag.
Green flag. Drag doesn’t date people who pay for meat or movies. Drag expects potential romantic partners to be pirates who are either vegan or meat thieves. In a neoliberal capitalist world, the biggest act of rebellion against the unfair conditions of production is not to pay.
drag has good taste!
Also, drag would very much like to be told how to use Android emulators to scam McDonald’s out of chicken nuggies. Drag is finding it difficult to fit fake meat into drag’s budget, but drag still wants chicken. Drag has a bottle of tonkatsu sauce that turns fried chicken into Japanese style katsu chicken.
Depends on the context. If they start out with a speech about revenge, use it as a demonstration of their work, or make it a goofy play on 90s hacking, it could be fun for the right person at the right time.
But if they went into it saying “I’m such a little tendieslut. God, I can’t wait to steal some chicken. My neighbor blew me behind there *point* when it was still a Wendy’s, and that was confusing because she was just supposed to drive me to my mom’s place so I could get ready for junior league” then their audience shrinks considerably further.
Ever worked food or retail? I mean yeah the guy’s a dipshit, but you aren’t considering factors that make several workers’ day worse.
Like what
You need to make 40 trays of samples an hour. Here goes some dipshit thinking he’s hurting the system by popping a bunch in his fat ass mouth. Now you gotta make more trays. Holy shit this post is really showing me that Lemmy might be a bunch of teenagers in a trench coat.
They’re asking about the McDonald’s example. Obviously taking a bunch of free samples means they have to make more samples. If you’re working at McDonald’s, you’re either making food for 8 hours or selling stuff for 8 hours, you’re never going to finish serving or making food.
Why am I not getting through to you people who have no experience in food service? Yeah you are going to finish making or selling food. People/Orders come in rushes. Once the rush dies down you can prep for the next rush. Once that is done you can take a fucking break. The people who work at McDonald’s aren’t robots. Think for a goddamn second. Ever take a moment of a break at your job? They deserve that too.
Closest to this I’ve worked was a convenience store which included a deli.
In that context the way I would have seen it was that he probably would have come in and bought them anyways, so the only difference to me would be sticking them in three bags vs one. No different than anyone else asking to cut their pizza a different way or whatever other minor out of the ordinary changes customers wanted.
If we were swamped with orders then yeah I wouldn’t be happy about it, but you get over it and move on that is part of working retail.
I’d say, potentially yes.
I say that, because 1, is been over 2 decades since I worked a McDonald’s, so things could have changed. And 2, it depends on the time of day. And secret third option, depends on the customer.
So generally speaking a certain amount of food will be cooked before hand and kept in a warmer for only so many minutes (ideally). So it is possible that there wasn’t enough chicken nuggets ready to go and they just had to be counted out. If that’s the case the person just needed to make more chicken nuggets.
However, even back when I worked there you had a plethora of customers who would demand fresh stuff and I know it’s only gotten more popular to do (don’t do that). So if this individual demanded that they be freshly made and it was done during the rush… Then yes absolutely this could have made somebody’s day worse.
Fresh McDonalds!? 😂
But seriously… who demands McDonalds to be fresh? It’s literally fast food.
Fresh in they want it cooked “fresh”. People do it all the time because they are under the idea that the food just sits until sold, and it’s some life hack to demand it be made fresh. People do it with fries all the time, or they’ll demand “no salt” (forcing someone to make it fresh) and then once getting the food, ask for a shit ton of salt packets (the salt will not stick to the fries at this point). For sure, not all McD’s hold themselves to the corporate standards, but I’d say a fair number do.
Its especially silly to ask for it to be “made fresh” during rush, since they’re likely cycling through everything in minutes.
When I worked in a restaurant I wouldn’t have cared because I got paid hourly, like a McDonald’s employee. The customer is still making a habit out of McDonald’s so maybe this is what corporate wants.
i can’t help but think that if your first date with someone is drive thru mcdonalds, maybe that should have been the first clue
If your first date is a glorious scam heist, the future loooks promising
Nuggies are breaded, not just meat, so this is omnivorous not carnist.
Ideology that supports the use and consumption of animal products.
Things can have several properties, for example a thing can be red, which doesn’t mean the thing is not a cube.
Thank you for providing the definition. Keep fighting for the animals!
Usually vegans use the term carnist to represent those who engage in animal products full stop, rather than breaking down the difference into carnivore and omnivore.
To us vegans, whether you’re carnivore or omnivore results in the same outcomes. Plus, many conversations surrounding veganism don’t necessarily involve diets, such as with clothing, in which case again it’s easier to use a single term to describe everything non-vegan.
You might say that non-vegans is a good enough term to describe the above, but that kind of framing can paint carnists in a more benevolent light that acknowledges their freedom of choice, rather than framing carnists with regards to the outcomes they cause, and the victims that suffer because of them.
You might say that non-vegans is a good enough term to describe the above, but that kind of framing can paint carnists in a more benevolent light that acknowledges their freedom of choice, rather than framing carnists with regards to the outcomes they cause, and the victims that suffer because of them.
so it’s just loaded language
a glorious scam heist
You son of a bitch, I’m in.
Maybe don’t order carnist options though
Why not let people excercise their liberty to decide for themselves. Plus how is this relevent to a date a majority of people are omnivorous anyways
Nothing but a suggestion
I suggest you keep it to yourself next time, then, as you have only furthered the image that vegans are smug asshats who can’t shut the fuck up about being vegan.
Maybe that’s what you want though, it’s just a suggestion. c:
Rude comment.
If u took offence then it proves u are everything they claimed u to be.
It is not polite to use ad hominems rather than a logical argument.
That logic is bad and you should feel bad. You suck. If this comment makes you mad, you’re only proving my point /s
Why are you angered?
Was their comment one of those ‘self-identifying without being asked’ moments? Certainly feels stereotypical to me. But, it couldn’t be that obvious.
It is. Some stereotypes exist for a reason, they’re earned.
I prefer Arch Linux over the Golden Arches. It’s much better for your health.
I want to say ‘exactly’, if I’m reading your comment right. The ‘carnist’ commenter could have ripped on McDonalds, or chicken nuggets in general, which both would have been super easy and everyone would have agreed with, and not made it weird by specifically falling into the stereotype here.
Yeah lol. The memes are real.
Its not the liberty of the animals to be exploited and murdered.
The animals have no rights and no liberty. Plus if it wasnt for us farming them then their evolutionary niche wouldnt exist so if u think about it we are doing them the favour.
That’s not entirely true because there are expectations depending on the jurisdiction on the standard of care for animals, in several countries they’re legally seen as sentient beings not property.
Putting them in filthy crowded slaughter houses where they’re kicked and shoved only to be slaughtered as children relative to their life spans is not doing them favour. It is our responsibility to stop exploiting them.
the natural lifespan of livestock is exactly when they are slaughtered
The animals have no rights and no liberty.
Why?
Evolutionary niche
On the one hand, the breeding of animals dependent on humans destroys evolutionary niches for animals independent from humans, on the other hand, humans destroy evolutionary niches directly.
Farmers won’t release or breed animals to improve their evolutionary niche, because farmers and consumers don’t farm animals for conservatory reasons.
Some people are poorer than you
I dunno. McDs was mine and my spouse’s first date, after church.
We are married 27 years now…
I’m barely older than you’re marriage but McDonald’s was a very different vibe when I was a kid. I still wouldn’t say anything to shame people going to McDonald’s for a first date today.
My first date with my girlfriend was at a Wendy’s and we took the bus to get there. That was 2005. We got married in 2009 and just celebrated our 15th wedding anniversary. It doesn’t matter where you go or how much you spend, it just matters who you’re there with.
How many times did they say, “Sir, this is a Wendy’s” before they just gave up and let you stay all the way until you got married there?
Honestly dodged a bullet.
Yeah I know, who passes up free nuggets?
Plus who is embarrassed from some teenagers that work at McDonald’s? Do you really want to tie yourself to someone who holds you back because of some arbitrary sense of normalcy?
What am I missing? Is there a “free 10 nuggets, 1x per customer” kind of thing going on?
Someone else posted something about the price being different based on your user profile/purchase history, so maybe having three logins, they can’t build up a proper profile.
Or they have a “limit 10 per customer” thing?
When you sign up on the app as a new user that’s exactly it.
Someone who does not appreciate those who steal from exploitative global corporations, is not someone worth knowing.
The entire reason the McDonald’s app exists is so McDonald’s can have variable prices to rip you off based on what they learn about your habits.
I hardly classify using their services in unintended ways as “stealing”.
This is what you text to win her back.
If tech went down for six months, they’d offer you a discount for hopping on one leg while rubbing your stomach and patting your head.
Besides data collection, the main purpose is to get more money out of people willing to pay more without missing out on people who won’t pay that much.
It’s tiered pricing where they’re fine with you selecting a tier, as long as they steer enough to the higher one l.
I can appreciate those who steal from corporations but I sure as hell don’t want to implicate myself by being with them when they do it lol
A guy I hung out with in college told me about all the ATMs he stole and asked if I wanted to go with him next time… I said maybe another time and then never spoke to him again. I didn’t want to be associated with him when he eventually got busted…which he did…
I don’t know the details of these nuggets, but I’m guessing they used multiple sessions to use a coupon code multiple times or something of the sort. More just exploiting a poorly set up system than theft.
Stealing ATMs is significantly different and definitely more illegal in my mind.
It’s the exact same thing at scale.
One is going against a company’s ToS, the other is theft… Not sure how they’re the same.
They’re chicken nuggets, he’s not Robin Hood.
Unless he gives those nugs to the poor.
He literally feeds 30 people and she’s still not impressed!?
You unwittingly (or maybe purposefully but few spotted it so far) tripped on the Moral Core of the matter.
Somebody tricking the McDonald’s system for personal upside maximization isn’t the class warrior so many are portraying here, rather he’s just another greedy fucker with a swindle that just so happens to target a large corpo.
A class warrior would be trying to make things better for everybody, not just himself.
I can see how his date’s take on this might have been that he’s a guy who is dishonest for his own gain, which is hardly the kind of person you want to get in a relationship with.
Further, somebody with their own decent notebook and the technical knowhow to run Android emulators is almost certainly not poor and actually needing to do this, which would be the only valid reason to do it.
capitalism contains the seeds of its own destruction.
I don’t view it through the lens of Marxism. Rather, I see this simply as cheating a cheater. The whole reason McD’s is pushing the app is to gamify the experience, take advantage of people’s psychological weaknesses, and trick them into paying more than they otherwise wood. I see this as just scamming the scammers.
We are the poor.
Yes, there are poorer people out there, but I think we all kinda forget how big the divide is. It lets us put ourselves in a place where we feel like we’re doing well comparatively, but I think it’s important that we remember that we’re all being taken advantage of and we all deserve better. Yeah, definitely some will need a bit more uplifting than others, but it’s Us vs. Them, and I think we spend too much time trying to further sub-divide that ‘Us’. Thank you for attending my crazy segue.
We’re all poor enough to deserve those free nugs though.
Yes we are the poor. If you need a job to survive you are the working class. The middle class is a concept to avoid people eating the rich. This also counts if your salary is a million, if you need to continue to work to make your life work, you are the working class.
There are only two classes:
- The Owner class who lives of the income from merelly owning things.
- The Worker class who has to work for a living.
Also originally the middle class is wealthy people who have no title. Like landed gentry and the bourgeoisie. And the upper class is aristocracy and nobility.
we all kinda forget how big the divide is
Obligatory pixel wealth link:
If he cheats with you he’ll cheat on you. Even if it’s cheating on food.
He’ll use his laptop running multiple girlfriend emulators to gamify the relationship!
What a wild take
Maybe not something you show off on the first date. Got to lay down the Marxist theory first.
Let your che Guevara date night t shirt do the taking
The only downside I’m seeing is that now you have 30 nuggets.
I hope a shit ton of folks do this and they only lose money with the apps. they are bullshit.
The extra bugs are pennies to McDonald’s, but the lifetime of still eating McDonald’s made it worth it to them. Best way to scam McDonald’s? Never go there in the first place.
You’re just screwing the workers.
Can you please explain how? You’ve commented this like 8 times but haven’t explained yet
Time. Scammers take the workers’ time away. I explain it much better in a long comment above if you care to look. Oh and don’t scam me I’ve only commented six times.
Former McDs worker: it’s not my time, I’m there, filling orders, regardless.
If I’m not filling orders, I’m scrubbing toilets, mopping or sweeping, or taking trash out, or doing more prep work.
I’m there for 7 hrs, regardless.
Ok, found it (it wasn’t there yet when I looked). So, you’re making the workers’ lives worse by… making them do their jobs? What’s the difference between ordering 30 free nuggets and just ordering 30 nuggets normally?
Oh and don’t scam me I’ve only commented six times.
Six? At these rates you’re scamming me! I’m gonna need you to work overtime to get that comment count up
They wouldn’t have to make the 30 free nuggets if they weren’t being scammed. You seem to think they’re making an endless supply of nuggets like s robot. No, they make enough for the orders and then maybe get to chill and smoke a cigarette or a blunt for a few goddamn seconds.
Obviously I’m not under that impression, stop acting in bad faith. I’m saying that there’s no difference between ordering 30 nuggets normally, and ordering them for free, from the worker’s perspective. You’re saying that ordering food is treating fast food workers badly. Sorry, but no?? You’re there to do your job, not to smoke weed. If you don’t want to make food, don’t work at a fast food place.
I’d still be making nuggets, free or not.
I agree with the girl. If you’re willing to steal from a McDonalds, what else are you scheming and how long until those scheme involve me? Theft is theft and I’d want nothing to do with it.
If you think that someone “stealing” 30 chicken nuggets from a company worth over 200 billion dollars is somehow an indication that they must also treat their loved ones poorly, you’re thinking far too simply about the complexity of human motivation. Amazingly, exploiting soulless corporations and hurting people are completely unrelated behaviors.
It’s probably a franchisee who isn’t a billionaire. More than likely you’re stealing from someone who only has tens of millions.
(I think it’s 2-3 million to start a fast food joint.)
I’m not sure which side of the debate this is meant to support.
I do believe McDonald’s pays back their franchisee for promos like this, they’re essentially “Manufacturers coupons” (When you use a manufacturer coupon, the retailer can reclaim their cost of the merchandise with them)
But who steals from the thieves?
the cops
Definitely not theft by any meaningful definition
Agree. An offer was made by McDonald’s (free 10 nuggets for signup on app). This was accepted and done three times. It is McDonald’s fault for not securing their offer to prevent what happened. They need clearly display and enforce the limits of the offer. If you’re able to meet the requirements of the offer 3 times and they don’t stop you then that’s on them.
Also yeah, fuck billion dollar corporations. Even if it was theft, they have a budget for this kind of crap.
Theft of the workers’ time to make your scam order when they already have a busy shitty job.
The workers are stuck there until their shift is over either way. They also don’t get paid more or less if you pay full price or not.
Perhaps the most merciful thing to do is to not eat at McDonald’s at all?
Lemmy teenagers coming for you on this one. How about zero exploits on a first date?
Oh no! Someone stole from a multi-billion dollar global company! That very same company who wouldn’t hesitate a second if it could make money murdering you without consequence! How dare they!
Imagine if Maid Marian had thought that way.
King Richard had an outlaw for an in-law.
This sounds like the tagline for a romcom version of robin hood made in 1998
Nah, it was said multiple times in the Disney cartoon from the 70s, including in the ending sequence
Agree and disagree. His “schemes” are going to be more like: “drive me around on Halloween while I run up to the storefront and take all the candy left out for kids!”
LOL at the downvotes. Like showing your date a scam on a first date is perfectly reasonable behavior. Sometimes lemmy just screams, “I can’t get laid to save my life! Why not?!”
My first date with my (now) wife featured us watching a movie after I showed her how to torrent it. It’s an easy way to parse through date prospects who are too hung up on corporate-defined ethics. I knew she was a catch when she was interested in the prospect of bypassing overpriced movie fees, rather than worrying about how some billion-dollar company was going to get my $10, like some other dates I’d had.
Theft is theft
Fucking bootlickers… 🙄
Bet you get a lot of second dates. JFC you people, showing off a scam on a first date and y’all defending the guy?
Applause for the woman being up-front and honest!
Lmmfao, sure thing bud, whatever makes you feel better 😂
You just keep deepthroating that corporate boot, see how that works out for you, clown (spoiler: not well lol)
Do you think if I googled “McDonald’s wage theft” it would come up with some stories?
…now you might say “two wrongs don’t make a right to thins”… But what if I could then find similar scams and problems centered around exploitation in all billion dollar companies or billionaire rises to power.
Now what if I could then trace these stories back through time and find many billionaires come from wealthy families, and many wealthy families have ties to even more dubious and exploitative practices throughout history.
…from things like America’s wars for banana republics or fascists in Latin America, to things like The Triangle Shirtwaist fire maybe even some going back through WW1 & 2, or slavery and colonization.
So it’s also a question of what is wrong in the world at large and how to resolve or replace it.
P.S Obviously this assumes those chickens wanted to be nuggets. Turns out moral philosophy is just more difficult than “what’s wrong is wrong”.
I think I’d like to go home now.
Idk what s going through the girls head, or Wlis for that matter, but this would be a win for me
Knickers dropping.
Explain how this works. I would like some nuggies.
You don’t actually need VMs, you just need alternate accounts on the app. The McDs app is stupid in the way all apps used to be and it doesn’t check for unique device IDs or anything before letting you redeem the same offer on a different account w/ same device.
I’m assuming they are just spinning up new Android VMs to install the app on so it looks like a first time install and eligible for some free nuggets promotional.
This is exactly how it works, although they’ve started trying to give you different deals ($1 instead of free, only works on second purchase, fries instead of nuggets, etc)
The app will ban both your IP and MAC address if you use it too many times, so make sure you can either create a new one (via a VM) or randomize it. (Via a custom ROM with MAC randomization enabled)
Don’t ask me how I know.
Set up a simple router on a raspberry pi and connect it to tor, reconnect as needed.
Don’t ask me how I know.
😏😏😏
So, how did you find that out? 😏
Friend and I tried it a couple years back.
His phone is now permanently banned from the McDonald’s app for life.
no wait please come back teach me your ways
I would marry you, if I where a girl
you don’t have to be a woman to marry a man!
Are you assuming the scammers gender ?
OP said it was a man in the title
Uuhh. Ooh HHH
I can’t say you’re right so I’ll nitpick ok? That was op not the Twitter poster
Well yeah but he is into girls (based on his tweet)
