They need to update their banners.
That one is creepy!
What else am I supposed to see besides a lady with a hat?
It’s young lady with a hat facing away and an old lady with a hat facing to the side. Young lady’s ear is old lady’s eye, young lady’s nose is a mole-like bump on old lady’s nose, and so on. Never liked this one personally, the old lady is too much of a stretch for my brain to accept.
An old lady with a hat
This is unironically the case in the muslim world today. Different groups killing each other in the bloodiest ways over the most miniscule differences.
“Today”
Yup, which is extremely similar to Christians and their “European wars of religion” that had them slaughtering each other for hundreds of years, and more recently “the Troubles” until 1998.
Jews aren’t above it either, though their examples are more biblical and not nearly the same body count. The Samaritans and the schism that turned into Christianity come to mind.
The troubles definitely had religious overtones and justifications, but it was a war about colonial control and cultural repression. You’d be hard pressed to find a British soldier who was fighting to defend protestantism instead of “the empire” or the queen, and you’d be hard pressed to find an IRA member who cared more about Catholic dominance in Ireland than independence.
The wars of religion basically used religion as a cudgel in a fight to dominate Europe and over tensions between the power centers of the Vatican and European royal courts. Entirely political but with religious marketing and pageantry.
Even the Sunni/Shia conflict, most Sunnis and Shias around the world have no issue with each other. Most of the time there’s violence assigned to sectarianism, it’s just like Ireland and Europe, that sectarian divide is inflamed by bad actors instigating artificial tensions and then using them to justify political and economic conquest. ISIS wanted to get rich by snapping up all the oil fields in a largely lawless region. Iran wants regional political dominance and economic control over the straight of hormuz. Israel wants to control the entire Middle East apparently. All of them have religious overtones to the conflict but the religion isn’t the reason for the conflict.
The last real religious wars were the crusades. Europe stood to gain nothing but “God’s favor” by taking back the holy land, it was nothing but a burden to repeatedly invade and fund intermittently occupying. Going back further, Muhammad’s early Muslim conquests are another example of a true “religious war”.
I mean Hindus are also like this. The amount hatred and violence over being born into different casts is disgusting, though I’m not as familiar with it or other religions. I come from an islamic background
The Thirty Year War was quite a while ago but until fairly recently there was real animosity between Catholics and Protestants in Germany.
It took me ~10 seconds to figure out how those banners work. Nice.
I still don’t get it. Look completely identical besides orientation. But both look like duck to me.
The duck’s bill becomes the rabbit’s ears and then the rabbit is looking the other way (and you can’t see its mouth)
Did you just compare my Duck to the heathens Rabbit? BLASPHEMER!
🤦♂️now I see it. Thank you!
“Wait, wait… stop… STOP!”
“Now, who’s carrying the DUCK banner, and who’s carrying t’other?”
(insert Monty Python, please)
The guy in the lower side of the image is the one talking.
Fun fact: Allah means God.
More than that: Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believe in the same god and the same creation story (more or less). Not to mention, different denominations within each religion (e.g. Catholic, Protestant for Christianity). It seems these shared beliefs don’t really contribute to any kind of peace.
I’m trying to get away from my radical atheist days, but monotheism specifically seems to definitively not play well with others.
radical atheist
“hello, have you heard about our savior, ‘just not being an asshole’?”
door slams
“obviously fucking not”
If you don’t think there is such a thing as radical atheism, you might be in a radically atheistic echo chamber. There absolutely is a way to take it too far. For example, thinking that all religions should be abolished forever.
Personally I am also an atheist bordering on radical :D
I’d rather educate religion away than oppress it, but I do think we’d be better off without any kind of supernatural belief. I know that’s a radical, extreme position.
It seems these shared beliefs don’t really contribute to any kind of peace.
I mean, that’s because very few conflicts are fought over religion on its own. It’s usually part of a larger fight, at which point the larger fight will need to be resolved even if both sides believe in similar religions. Besides, since peace is the absence of conflict, it’s always going to be impossible to tell if it contributing to some kind of peace because you can’t know which conflicts aren’t being fought. You can always have more
racereligion wars.I think you’re ignoring the importance of religious identity as the definitive motivating factor in a lot conflict, but I agree that sometimes it plays a more minor role.
I mean, examples? Pretty much every ostensibly religious example I can think of off the top of my head is fundamentally driven by something else. Now that doesn’t make religion unimportant in these conflicts, but it’s not definitive and it’s entirely possible and/or likely other fault lines would’ve been found instead.
The European wars of religion?
What does it mean to believe in the “same god” if god isn’t real?
Batman isn’t real either, and has had different interpretations over the years, but all Batman fans are fans of the same character regardless of which version of Batman they prefer.
Well, they all accept the book Old Testament as canon, they just disagree on which fan theory correctly continues that story.
Christians and Jewish people that pray in Arabic also pray to Allah. Western Christians really don’t like that.
Pfft, losers. Old Woman God is better than both of these!
Man!
And I’m 37!
Well I can’t just call you “man”
