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      And fortunate son… The amount of people who completely misinterpret the song about the rich senators son not needing to go fight in a useless war while you’re drafted to go and die is too damn high.

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    Makes you wonder about tech oligarchs who read scifi and always misinterpret it. Rather than warnings of unbridled power, they seem to view stuff like 1984, Snowcrash, Dune, etc as guides.

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    Reminds me of the time Tom Morello made a political statement and magats got into a huff, saying that he is a musical artist and should stay out of politics. My favorite comment online was “What machine do they think they were raging against, the toaster?”

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    MAGA seem to be made up a lot of individuals with no patience to sit down and listen to song lyrics.

    Is the bulk of them struggling with ADHD? cuz it kinda sounds like a trait of ADHD

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      At the risk of being a real killjoy, please don’t use a real disorder to excuse fascists being fascists.

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        hello this is a legitimate concern i have. not a joke.

        bigots can be preying on people with such a trait to get them to follow with little effort.

        how are you not concerned that traits linked to a disorder can be a vulnerability that is manipulated?

        especially on social media.

        have you talked to a MAGA mind? have you listened to how they speak about their denials? i exclusively only run into it with family members that are suffering with adhd are almost exclusively white, cis male and suffering with an inability to concentrate on information for any length of time. they are diagnosed with adhd.

        neighbor has two kids that have adhd and one is following some cult about eating raw meat and the other got kidnapped and manipulated by a gang.

        i believe this is an overlooked disorder when it comes to cult hive minds and how easy it is to hijack someone who might have issues with concentration and difficulty in fitting in with a society that relies heavily concepts of survival by social gregariousness but little tolerance for neuro divergence and tend to too easily isolate away people in such circumstances.

        leaves perfect hunting ground for predatory cult like thinking.

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          I‘m not american so I have no contact with american fascists. Sadly I have/had contact with european fascists and (even more important) I have read history books about who and why people joined the fascists and I know many neurodivergent folk (including myself).
          There are and were neurodivergent fascists but their neurodivergence is not the reason for them being fascists and I know many neurodivergent people who are anything but fascists and are even crucial parts of anti-fascist groups and organisations.
          In short, stop giving fascists escuses for their actions. They know what they are doing and only themselves are to blame.

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            not at all excusing facists.

            and while we are getting comfortable tossing demands around at strangers online while hiding behind a screen: dont excuse cult leaders from having culpability of manipulation.

            we wouldnt be here without manipulation of masses

            Manson didnt have to get his hands bloody to do the time. master manipulators buy in on obtuse fools to be overlooked.

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        But they seem so impatient and seem to refer to any time spent thinking things out is boring. I’ve only seen this with my diagnosed adhd family members who blame adhd for everything they do

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    We’ll fight the powers that be, just don’t pick our destiny

    A big part of MAGA mythology is the notion that the country, even with Republicans in charge of all three branches, is actually run by a sinister cabal of deviants and assorted non-WASPs. “Fighting the powers that be” is what Trump is here to do for them.

    'cause you don’t know us, you don’t belong

    …not hard to find a MAGA reading for that line either.

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    There could be a song called “kill all the fascists” and republicans would still think it was a song for them.

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    Reminds me of that video of magats rocking out on RATM Killing in the name of, having absolutely no idea what the song is about

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      Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses

      ah, the cryptic lyrics were too opaque for the conservative brain

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        They just assumed that’s who the song was for. Killing in the name of God doesn’t automatically register as bad for these folks.

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      Conservative Politian: When did RATM get political?

      Tom Morello: Tell me what song in our catalog you don’t think is political and I’ll remove it.

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      I guess they saw him battling with Tipper Gore back in the day and, being unable to escape their bifurcated sense of politics, assumed he was on their side.

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    I’d say Dee is a national treasure, but i’m afraid it would tick him off. <3 Dee

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    Riding the train in the wrong direction just makes this person sound like they’re one of those people that can’t sit in a seat facing backwards on a train without feeling queezy.

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    Media literacy final boss are MAGAs. Same goes for some Christians praising Take Me to Church as a song of worship. You see this also a lot with video games and superheroes. No, Batman would NOT be on your side and games like Fallout have ALWAYS been political.

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      No, Batman would NOT be on your side

      Neither would Punisher, despite the bullshit thinblueline skulls and that stupid orange-diddler combover variants.

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        Gerry Conway (RIP) literally took back over the book specifically to have Punisher threaten a cop for using his symbol. “You don’t do what I do. Nobody does. […] If I find out you are trying to do what I do, I’ll come for you next.”

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      I’ll worship like a dog at the shrine of your lies

      Emphasis mine.

      For some songs (like “We’re not gonna take it”), only knowing the chorus explains why many people might miss the point. “Take Me to Church” doesn’t even offer that saving grace.

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            I don’t think the people who do things like that actually pay attention to what they’re doing. It’s like a subconscious reflex for small-time Christian singers, or something.

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        Batman can be viewed as a violent force of the status quo and if you fry your brain with post 9/11 propaganda you could even get the stupid idea that this is a good thing. Looking at you, Frank Miller.
        But the idealized or, to be even more pretentious, platonic idea of Batman is everything but.

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        Yeah although usually it’s Superman they’re obsessed with anyway. Usually they like to complain that the current iteration is too woke, even though it’s exact same character from the 1960s

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        There’s a comic arc where Batman tries feverishly to get rid of his fortune not through philanthropy but really by selling and giving away everything. The system is so rigged that he is still stupidly filthy rich by the end of it all and the systemic inequalities and corruption make it so that all his money is being squandered and used to further abuse victims instead of helping. So he ends up beating up people in a black suit anyway, as the only real way to fight corruption.

        Also, there’s a literal supernatural curse over the city anyways. It will always be evil and corrupt.

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            It depends on the universe and story arc. In one Batman is literally fighting a god that lives as a bat at the core of the city. One has an evil warlock from 40000 years ago sleeping under the city. My favorite one is that there’s a literal portal to hell in Arkham’s basement.

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              literal portal to hell

              Where’s my Batman/Buffy crossover? I just want to see Alfred and Giles talking.