Reading these incredible comments has revealed a large piece of what was named as the reason for lemm.ee shutting down.

This is a safety feature of women social groups for time immemorial. It’s a piece of how we survived prior to the last 50 years, and it continued as we moved forward into the era of liberation. We talk to each other.

I realize the “guy code” is one of silence. Cheating? Bros won’t say anything or warn anyone, by this code. In fact, the opposite is demanded by that code. Woman do the opposite, that is how the woman code works. I’ve witnessed fallout in friend groups when these diametrically opposed codes meet on regards to another friend. Apparently, having lunch with the cheated on woman and letting her know what is happening is applauded by women and enraging to men.

The piece regarding cheating is about integrity and treating people right in addition to safety. The rest of it is usually just about safety.

We survived millennia between being treated like prized horses. uteruses/vaginas with life support systems attached, and animals to be beaten, by talking to each other. Warning each other. Helping each other, where able.

The anger here, from you, is 100% expected, but the ordinary nature of that anger doesn’t make women wrong for exposing safety concerns in the dating pool. Given the myriad of diseases, including the incredible comeback of syphilis the last couple years, cheating is also a safety concern. Cheating should be exposed, always.

Why is everything we do, when we band together, seen as suspect and dangerous?

I’m old, so I’m more familiar with before me too than after. I believe a piece of what she is trying to say is the doubt that permeates any initial accusation. Doubt was the standard approach to any mention of rape or assault for decades.

Back in college, in the 90s, a good friend was followed home from a party. She made it home, thought she was safe. While she was showering in her basement (house) apartment, she looked up to see hands and a nose pressed to the frosted glass of the window, trying to see in. She called the police. A pair of cops showed up and the first thing they asked wasn’t: are you ok. Or. Did you get a good look at the guy. No. They asked her if she’d been drinking tonight. Then: Well, what were you wearing when you walked home from this party?

Footprints and knee prints in the dirt consistent with someone tramping into the flower bed to kneel down by her bathroom window. Hand prints and a nose grease smear on the glass. No attempt to investigate further. Chastised to drink less. She was not drunk, yet this was the takeaway message of that encounter instead of her safety. Encounters like these regarding the sexual safety of women were so common in the 90s.

The salient point here is this post likely is not about flipping the innocent until proven guilty narrative. This is about the preliminary circumstances that would lead into a case and taking the woman’s safety seriously instead of ignoring perpetrators who leave evidence behind.

If no one listens to you or takes you seriously, or avoids asking the relevant questions, that is a problem. Worse it’s a problem that was the status quo for decades.

So, when OP says maybe we should listen to trumps accusers that’s what it likely means. To listen. Not to flip the innocent until proven guilty narrative.

I’m here for the high quality content of tenforward, and some comics, but I was distracted by politics.

It’s a joke.

He’s desperately falling back on Obama and Hillary to distract from his pedophilic involvement with Epstein.

HCR is a national treasure. She’s on YouTube.

Someone needs to make Trump a Make the Epstein Files Great Again hat. Flood the White House with them.

You know, some of us read this to slow down and fall asleep. The nightmare fuel fomented by whatever orange toadstool exists between that man’s legs is not what I want to think about right now.

Lemmy really is the new Reddit.

I can’t imagine where they’d find doctors and nurses to work these Trumpian facilities.

There aren’t enough psychiatrists and psychologists for the current job openings. Nurses are likely too marketable to work that type of job unless they’re so bad they’ve been rejected everywhere else.

Of note, prison is the #1 provider of mental health services in the USA. They can’t fill their psychiatry job openings either.

But this might be the plan. Forced rehab in for profit prisons.

I have a Vaccines Cause Adults tshirt. The number of random dipshits in grocery stores rushing up to tell me about their autistic brother or child is too many. They misread the shirt. Then it gets awkward.

There’s this intense need for control over conditions like autism, to blame something. The reality is everything doesn’t happen for a reason, the justice of the universe is random, and chaos & statistics rule over us all.

The most robust bit of data we currently have on autism is regarding antique sperm. And that data is not robust at all because it’s a correlation between older dads and autistic kids. All this really means is this is an area of potential focus for further study.

The reality is we just don’t know the root cause of autism.

But dipshits continue to insist our cheapest, least invasive, lowest maintenance form of medical care is to blame because they want a cause and groups like RFKs previous litigation crusade hand out this reason as they sow the seeds of distrust for science, which in turn makes it easier for corporate America to crush us, as they’re doing in the current admin.

This reads a bit like he wants a return of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, just without the lobotomies.

Extending involuntary commitment past “a danger to self or others” to include vagrancy is quite the stretch.

The current landscape of medical hospitals is such that involuntary psych holds are often boarding in a medical bed, using extra staff for closer obs for up to a year each, waiting for placement to a mental health bed. Empty mental health beds are rare. Even outpatient therapy is defunded, even in blue states.

Where does Trump think these people are going to be commuted to? Or is his plan to concentration camp them in places like the bedlam of yore?

Why September? If you’re announcing what you’re going to announce what is the point?

I certainly hope these people aren’t driving themselves to work with this schedule. In addition I hope no one on it has a heart condition.

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2004-143/pdfs/2004-143.pdf

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6617405/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309714292_Long_Working_Hours_and_Shift_Work_as_Risk_Factors_for_Occupational_Injury

The sweet spot for 12s is in having 4 days off per week. There isn’t time for anything in life on work days except work, sleep, commute. Thirdly, the first day off is a wash. Recovery. Like a nap that simply goes on all day. 12s are great but only with block scheduling and days off.

This schedule proposal sounds like something out of pre-OSHA, possibly intended to kill people. Live to work, not the other way around.

I’m not a programmer. Let me state it better though. I want the algorithms or lack thereof of the early 00s. I want to be able to search for something and get more than scrape sites and top 14, 17, or 22 lists. I want to be able to search for a businesses and contractors and get more than national chains with 800 numbers. If I type in electricians in city, state, I want it to actually do that instead of making me find a map app.

I want todays content in 2002 search engines.

Enshittify search to the point of it being nearly useless. Then introduce a little bot to find it for you. Predictable.

Car accident on the way back to prison.

It fits. Vance said a while ago the Epstein files need to be released. Theil has said similar, to the effect of needing to burn down the current regime. Granted, Theil has nothing benign in mind for this, his is the way of of sci fi dystopia made real.

The more interesting part of it all is Vance is there due to Don Jr’s influence over his daddy.

Don’t underestimate the power of inertia.

Inertia helps the elderly appear normal when dementia starts to hit. It’s part of the reason why the beginning of dementia goes unnoticed. Even if family notices “something isn’t right”, dementia may not be evident because they’re doing their usual daily routine.