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    I think a problem the Democratic Party is facing is that, today, few believe they will

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        That is not their problem, it is ours.

        Their problem is the multiple PR disasters which will probably lower campaign contributions.

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    You guys complain for months that democrats don’t fight back. But First Democrat that fights back against Trump, you guys tear them down and bury them. Nobody is worthy to be an ally, that’s why MAGA wrecked you. That’s why half you guys will stay home next election no matter who runs on the Democrat ticket. Last time you said you didn’t want the senile old man but the moment they switched to the educated black woman you guys were like “no not that!”

    MAGA unifies and the left splinters and lights among itself

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      1. This is a non-sequitur, the guy in the post is a republican supposedly
      2. A guy posting troll tweets while clearing homeless encampments is not “fighting trump”
      3. Active participants in genocide are not allowed to be allies, maga are happy to support genocide.
      4. If theres a fake primary or they annoint someone years before and expect voters to fall in line, youre right, nobody will vote for them
      5. Again, if you bait and switch the people, you dont hold a primary, and you wait until there’s no chance of having one to finally say “youre right, hes too old, here’s someone nobody asked for” who then proceeds to drop every popular position she ever publicly had, YOU DESERVE TO FUCKING LOSE.
      6. Democrats, the dnc, the party proper, are the ones refusing to support “democrats” who win elections, not voters. Zohran and the Minnesota guy are both barely left and the national party is basically funding their opposition.

      If you’re getting paid by that Brian Tyler Cohen darkmoney group I wouldn’t be surprised, they only hire the most shit tier libs.

      Why dont you confront your party leadership and hold them accountable for forcing trump back into office? You’d rather yell at principled voters, who made extremely clear what they absolutely would not accept for years in advance, than the party that chose to try winning the election purely on republicans voting for them.

      All I’m saying, you better be getting paid for this. Having these opinions for free would be very embarrassing. Congrats on the check tho, $250/mo can really make a difference.

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    How is he allowed to remove the secret service protection from the former vice president?

    What?

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      There was an order in the previous administration to extend protection for extra time. This administration just cancelled the extension.

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      The former VP actually only gets 6 months of protection by default. Beyond that it needs to be actively extended, which Trump didn’t do.

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    Starlink shouldn’t exist. it’s unnecessary , we have better options… make internet a utility and force the companies we already gave millions to, to actually modernize infostructure and bring internet to undeserved locations that still have 56k

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        If you live somewhere that has electricity coming from the energy grid then by default should also have Internet coming to your house as well. By defining the internet as a utility and treating it like one you would get more funding to build out the network. Something similar happened with phone lines way back in the day if I’m not mistaken.

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          The isps have been given finding. Multiple times. Then they merge with another ISP and claim they’re not obligated to fulfill the contract despite owning the company that signed the contract… And a greedy politician finds some reasons in their pocket to allow that excuse

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          Rural Japan, is like the suburbs here in the states. Japan is fucking tiny.

          We still should have fiber everywhere in the states. And it should be provided by the electric coops that most of our rural areas run off of, but suggesting that Japan’s rural areas are anything like the US’s rural areas is laughable.

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            Thank again, Japan is the size of California. This is rural Japan not a suberb. And even many of the actual suberbs in California don’t have fiber to the home.

            This is about monopolies running rampant and misuse of public money not about the technical feasibility.

            Edit: These companies literally bought back their own stock to inflate their market cap instead of building out the infrastructure we funded.

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              I’m not saying that the USA shouldn’t have fiber everywhere, it should be like water or electric, my point was suggesting that rural japan is even remotely close to rural US is a bit of a stretch.

              And cali is slightly larger than japan, not by much but it is, and that’s just one state.

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            I grew up in rural Ohio and spent time in rural TX as well for a brief period. As a kid, I walked about 20+ minutes to bail hay in my neighbor’s fields in the summer for cash. I am currently farming in rural Tohoku Japan.

            Certain things are similar and certain things are different. To call where I live a suburb is just wrong yet we, and those even more rural than us, have fibre. I looked at buying land on the side of a mountain before buying this place and, although I’d have to pay for the run from the nearest point, I could still get fiber. Being Japan, I of course had to apply by fax machine, but the infrastructure is there for most of the country, both urban and rural.

            Edit to add: we have multiple fiber companies as well, at least one of which being a fully private company.

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            Rural Japan, is like the suburbs here in the states. Japan is fucking tiny.

            Doesn’t fucking matter when you have as much money as we do.

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            Posting from a fiber connection in rural vietnam. Also have 6GB 5g/day for <7USD/mo

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      Running fiber to low density areas is expensive but there’s no way it can be as expensive as launching all those satellites.

      Even if it is, the ROI has got to be way worse for satellites.

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        There’s also the cost of relaunching satellites once they run out of fuel. The maintenance cost is also higher compared to fiber.

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          talking out of your ass here. satellites don’t typically just run out of fuel. they don’t really need fuel once they’re in orbit. the reason why spacex satellites fall down after like 5 years or sth is because they’re in an intentionally low orbit, where atmospheric friction is still relevant.

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      Starlink should 100% exist in some form or another, but it replacing terrestrial landline internet is madness. We can and should absolutely do both things.

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      As a foreigner, what does this metaphor mean? It sounds to me like “And at the end of the day… is night” kind of things, but what does it replace?

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        Apparently it’s a book title of the same name. “A book of political subversion”

        There’s nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos Book by Jim Hightower

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        It means there is no future in centrism. The living armadillos choose a side. Those that dither will be hit by cars. On United States roads, yellow lines signify lane divisions between cars traveling in opposite directions.

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    Sometimes, I feel regret that Romney didn’t beat Obama. Not because Romney would have been a better president. Just because of the timing, if Romney had won, then maybe Trump would never have become president, or at least he’d have been president later. Romney’s still a Republican, so it would have sucked, but Trump is fucking poison.

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      Typical liberal thinking. Trump is just byproduct of neoliberal, genocidal war mongering state of america. If not Trump, someone else wouldve come. You should be glad he didnt came sooner and I am sure far far worse times are yet to come.

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      That’s an interesting thought… I can’t help but feel like it would have just delayed an inevitable outcome though, potentially allowing the underlying political movement even more time to grow and fester. It’s unknowable, but I feel like we’ll be pondering questions like that for a long time.

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        It seems like logically, we should feel lucky to have such an incompetent campy comic book villain con man as the face of their ridiculous movement. But it doesn’t feel like that at the time.

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          I would feel “lucky” if the dipship’s popularity dropped to less than 10% support by the end of 2020 and never shown his face in public ever since. But now, this is a nightmare.

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      Because much of what’s happening right now is a direct, racist reaction to the US having the gall to elect a black man president.

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        Its also a reaction to the Hope and Change candidate bailing out the banks who just stole millions of homes, bombed a dozen countries, sending the natl guard to shut down protests in furgison, both-sides a cop arresting a man in his own yard, deporting more people than W or Trump, giving us means-tested subsidies for health insurance.

        Obama disillusioned a generation with politics, hence why so many people stayed home in 2016. Biden did the same shit, and Newsom will do it again if given a chance.

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          He inherited that quagmire of illegal wars, it’s not something you can just withdraw from at the drop of a hat. It was either drones or boots on the ground, not exactly a stellar choice to be left with, and he chose to minimize American lives lost. Most certainly not defending any of America’s vile military engagements but the picture is a little bit more nuanced than that.

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            it’s not something you can just withdraw from at the drop of a hat

            Lol fucking Trump withdrew us from Afghanistan at the drop of a hat (although he timed it so that that particular mess was Biden’s to clean up).

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          Don’t forget the part when Obama created a joint federal/local/corporate-bank task force to illegally surveil the Occupy Wall Street protests, and the brutally crush them. Or decided not to prosecute the authors of the torture program in the Bush administration.

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          I guess people think our memories are really that bad that we’d believe shit like this… OK bud.

          Dude literally said “both sides” lol

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            I’m guessing Obama was before your politcal awakening. Is there anything specificly I said you don’t believe and want more information on?

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                They lost to Donald fucking Trump, twice. Do you think Trump is a uniquely gifted politician? You have to have exceptional distain for your constituents if you can’t get them to come out when the alternative is the republicans.

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                  I’m not a fan of the Democratic party, I just hate the obvious bullshit double standard that’s everywhere.

                  The left just can’t not shoot itself in the foot. Always snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Care more about bullshit purity tests than stopping the literal fascists from destroying our republic.

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                We don’t blame the Democrats for the crime, we blame the Democrats for positioning themselves as the only ones who can stop the crime, and then just not doing it.

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                  The whiplash when a dem wins president ad all the libs flip to “actually this this we all agreed was bad when <last republican> was doing it isn’t that bad and its really important we keep <funding ICE camps/bombing country/backing Israel/giving money to corporations/funding police attention the expense of literally everything>”

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      I think a McCain victory would have been the best shot at averting the Trump wing. The Tea Party was the first manifestation of what we see now, and that was triggered by Obama’s first term.

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          I somehow mashed to forget her for a second…

          He probably would have made it up to the full 8 years, since he did in our timeline. I doubt Palin would have won a race.

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        I’ve always said this was the start of our descend into the hellscape that we’re currently stewing in. Having Gore’s president, would have gotten strong internet/telecoms and environmental guardrails/legislation passed. At a time when we really needed to start addressing those things. Amongst many other things…

        5 SCOTUS fucktards are responsible for where we are today. that’s my take at least.

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        With all the nonsense about “fiscal conservatives”, people forget that the last administration to balance the budget was Clinton/Gore - and not only was the budget balanced, it actually had a fucking surplus. One of the big debate points going into the 2000 election cycle was what to do with this surplus. Naturally enough the surplus went towards tax cuts for the rich and now we’re fucking $35 trillion dollars in debt.

        Someone will weigh in here with “deficits don’t matter” and “the government can just print money if it needs it”.

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    Reissue all US currency and people are only able to change to the new real currency $100k a day over the course of a year. After that it all becomes void, and you need to actually go to the bank and sign a slip each time.

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      Isn’t the correct process to make a flippant post offering to buy the whole thing on twitter ?

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    Could they even do any of that with just the House? They won’t do it anyway, but could they?

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      Iirc any resolution to that extent would likely have to pass through both levels of Congress. But, if enough seats flip in both chambers next year, it could certainly happen. Checks and balances and whatnot.

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      At this point it doesn’t even really matter, it’s just a question of whether anyone would step up to stop them. “The Rules” in general have already been well and truly trod upon and I’m not sure we make it out the other side of this without some restructuring of them.

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      Obviously with the Senate they can cut any budget/pass any law.

      On their own the house can cut funding eventually. Push comes to shove, the house needs to vote for spending. They either pass a budget with the cuts, or the government shuts down.

      There really isn’t a mechanism for the house that nationalize anything without the support of the Senate that I’m aware of. The house can call the vote day one to nationalize, but it’s symbolic without a legit path on the Senate

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    Day 1 should be to Fire everyone even remotely related to trump. Then take trumps entire cabinet to a CIA black site. Then start going after the treasonous media figures. Then day 2 you can start fixing things.

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      He said when they take the house. I’m that hypothetical, they would still be moderately impotent with regards to what you describe, they’d need 2/3 of Senate too.

      This is the most optimistic plausible scenario for 2027, not 2029.

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        The good news is that the Senate is vulnerable to flipping. 22 of the 35 seats up for election are currently held by Republicans, and only 13 by Democrats. Dems only need 4 seats to flip the Senate, and Senate races aren’t vulnerable to gerrymandering.

        The bad news is that this is the Senate class that was elected in 2020, so the Republicans up for election aren’t extremely vulnerable since they all survived a fairly blue election cycle.

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          Right, but a lot of that would require either POTUS or 2/3. They might be able to do some things, but almost certainly can’t remove from office or override vetos

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        They’ll be working in the same building as the Senate and people fall down the stairs there all the time with no questions asked.

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      Nazism is sadly a spectrum, and you can appeal to those undecided in the middle by hopping onto their stage

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          You can both be vehemently anti-immigration and pro minority rights at the same time. It’s mental gymnastics at its core, I agree, but it exists.

          Very few people hold a cohesive worldview that holds up against total scrutiny, and the one’s who do probably spend too much time inside their heads convinced of their own sanctity.

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            Perhaps. But Nazism at its core is deeply racist and therefore anti-immigration and anti-minority. Do I even need to spell out what they did to Jews, Romas, the disabled and other nationalities?

            Not trying to put words into your mouth, but I suspect that what you mean is that fascism is a spectrum, not Nazism itself. Fascism that started in Italy is the original fascism, and they are kinda mild compared to Nazism. While both Nazism and fascism reject liberal democracy and freedom of speech and press; embrace militarism; ultranationalism; and romantacising the past, some fascists embrace diversity. Even in Italian fascist propaganda, they advocate treating Africans as Italian compatriots. After all, Mussolini and his fascist party wants to recreate the multiethnic Roman empire. Why be racists then if that is their goal? Italian fascists don’t mind other races so long as people subscribe to Italian national identity. Italy also either refused or delayed sending Jews to concentration camps, because Italian fascists don’t really care about the Nazi view on Jews save for a few.

            Even though Nazism are fascists, not all fascists are Nazis. Nazism took inspiration from fascism, albeit with more racism. Many would argue that Nazism is a subset of fascism while some say they are different ideology altogether. There was also a contemporary far right Brazilian group who admired Hitler. They sent a letter to Hitler praising him, but advocated for him to embrace diversiry like what Brazil does.

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            I’m so strongly opposed to illegal immigration that I think we should just open the borders and let folks come and go as they please.

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              I’m so strongly opposed to illegals undercutting the working class in this country, that I think we should give them all passports so that they’re legally entitled to minimum wage

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        This “Nazi is a spectrum” nonsense is why you guys refused to have allies and got destroyed by maga. It’s why when anyone even slightly right or even left of you, has a slightly differing opinion, you call them nazis. You cheapen and confuse the situation by throwing everyone under the Nazi bus

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        this is the first time that i’ve ever heard this and it’s kinda hilarious.

        Nazism is […] a spectrum

        lol, just L.O.L. do you want a little genocide with your 3pm tea or a bit more? How many brown dead children do there have to be to make it worthwhile? (/s)

        i think that you might have a point, but you really gotta work on your verbalization and presentation. saying “nazism is a spectrum” is not gonna resonate with anyone.

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          I think that decorating my words more to assay the feelings those who cannot parse intent would be a race to the bottom that wouldn’t help anyone

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            now that’s a well-worded response :)

            also yes, i can see that point. i guess i’m just used to adapting my language to those around me to get better audience reception.

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        Their stage where if you’re good enough at appealing to centrists, they’ll just ban you or lower your post visibility. Their stage where the algorithm can be manipulated to show centrists only your worst posts.

        Their stage that dies if enough sensible movers leave that the sheep see only vileness from evil movers.

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          sure it is

          the threshold is quite low compared to how crazy some beliefs can get, but beyond that it is a spectrum like anything else

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              Bad news for you then, with the rise of right wing populism everybody is a fascist now.

              When do we form la resistance which we all will be in? We have to do something against all these racists don’t we?

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              Fair. The point is that on the artist formerly known as twitter, there are still some who can be talked out of the point of view because they have not seen anything else, the platform supresses them and bans conversations based on what ever elons biases are this week. Others have already drank the coolaid and the only solution then is to just throw heavy history text books at them until it sinks in that there is a reason that books covering europe from 1935-1945 weigh a ton.

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              yeah that’s basically the exact argument I’m making

              your argument is that all fascists are the same. mine is that some are even worse than others

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            Sorry, that’s not how this works. That’s your liberalism. Why should I compromise with a group that wants my loved ones dead? They have made their choices.

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              Not all of them want your loved ones dead, some of them are just scared of change and are listening to the loudest voice in the room promising them stability (and/or lies)

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                And then will run straight back to them at the first opportunity. There is no reason to trust them, at all. They enable the worst of us and do not care about anyone but themselves. That is not an ally.

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    Nationalize the assets of every billionaire who bought a cabinet position to destroy the government agencies that were relating their businesses. 100% tax on wealth over $100 million. Reform the judiciary. Every citizen has the absolute right to vote with equal access to the ballot box. Eliminate the electoral college. Electoral boundaries drawn by an independent, non-partisan agency. All electoral boundaries must be a maximum five sides polygon except where they follow a state border. Ban private schools and fully fund science and fact based public education. Eliminate health insurance companies and nationalize healthcare. No company may pay bonuses or dividends unless every employee earns a loving wage with full benefits. Make companies pay the same benefits to part time employees that they do full time employees. Executive wages must be tied to the average wage of employees and the lowest wage paid to an employee (including contagious and employees of suppliers.) Dissolve media conglomerates and ban misinformation presented as news.

  • Unruffled [they/them]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    In reality the Dems will do none of those things though. They won’t nationalize anything because they are neoliberals. They won’t fully defund ICE because they want racists to vote for them too. They’ll just reduce the budget and maybe stop putting kids in cages. They won’t shut down funding for the exec branch because they’ll say it is “irresponsible”.

    More things they’ll never do:

    • Demilitarise and defund the police
    • Provide free public healthcare and education for all
    • Raise taxes on billionaires
    • Stop mass surveillance programs
    • Reform the electoral system to allow proportional representation
    • Properly regulate and tax corporations
    • Stop providing weapons to their genocidal allies

    I’d love to be proved wrong, but I’m not gonna get my hopes up.

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      Shutting down funding for the executive program means cutting pretty much every program the government has, if you’re not going to reformat it. Which is not implied.

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        They should still do it and bring the country to a standstill if necessary. If extreme measures aren’t applicable now, when will they be? It’ll cause some short term pain, but it’ll get everyone out in the streets.

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        Founding Fathers, 1776: Democracy is worth fighting and dying for! We must water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants. We must risk our fortunes and our lives so that our children can live in freedom.

        Democrats, 2025: Trump is a dictator destroying democracy, but we can’t risk temporarily shutting down government transfer payments in order to stop him.