This bundled with droughts that cause the ground to not be able to absorb the water, causing serious flash floods, is just a start. I’m guessing in the next ten years, we’ll see this happening more and more each year for inland areas

This and surroundead are two of my favorite zombie games.

https://skyrim-together.com/

The same team(dev) is also building fallout together for fallout 4

Console coop is tough, if you ever get into PC gaming. There is a lot more coop games available, even Skyrim has a coop mod, which works pretty well now.

I’m not doing ANY shit. I’m asking you to define your position more clearly. And what I’m saying is that while you two had your little slap fight, neither of you stopped for a moment to consider that you’re talking about burdens of children’s lives here.

Emotional legislation is shit legislation. Again, that’s how we got the patriot act…

If we only had ONE SCHOOL SHOOTING PER YEAR WITH ONE FATALITY PER YEAR ITS ONE SHOOTING AND ONE FATALITY TOO MANY.

Again, you only seem to give a shit if the child dies via firearm.

but you go ahead and have your little squabble over what counts as a school shooting and what doesn’t. Because there will always be parents who are having to bury their children, right?

Again emotionally driven legislation is not good legislation. You’re applying the “think of the children logic”.

Do me a favor by doing them a kindness and have it resolved as soon as possible so they can rest at ease knowing there’s some random guy on the internet vetting the bad ones from the good ones so that the can be confident in knowing that their child did in fact- die in a proper and official school shooting.

So the parents burying their child that died in a car wreck going to school doesn’t count? Again, you seem to not give a crap about how they died unless it’s via firearm.

This is not incorrect data, that is the definition of a school incident. A firearm was found in or near a school. It is not a school shooting, but every school shooting begins with a school incident because it is not possible to shoot in a school without a gun near or in the school.

A school incident involves school personnel. Do you classify a wreck that happened near a school as a school incident as well? You do know how many schools are directly in neighborhoods right?

But this data is not being presented in its entirety as school shooting data, in any instance you’ve cited. Only the data for incidents which involved a shooting in a school is presented as school shooting data.

No it’s not, it’s actively used constantly by anti2a groups. There is a reason mother jones, one of the most antigun journals out there, called out the data.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/12/no-there-were-not-355-mass-shootings-this-year/

See my other comment to soup. The issue with the data at hand is that bad/incorrect data drives bad/horrible policies. You don’t see 900+ kids a drowning, having legislation brought forward for only pools that hold 500 gallons or at 3’ deep or less. Why? Because that’s not going to actually help. So why is it that the “common sense” antigun groups want legislation that’s the equivalent to banning all pools over 500 gallons? Because the data they have and they are fed is junk data.

I’m one of those that will check if a game is coop first before anything else. Games are just better with friends.

Edit and you’re absolutely right, even a shit buggy game can have us rolling in laughter for hours.

I’m betting the majority of us older gamers enjoy coop games with friends more than anything.

This is incorrect data. An adult who gets charged with possession of a firearm near a school, is not a school incident. That’s not just badly presented, it’s completely incorrect.

If you got from what I wrote that I was defending school shootings, you’re brain dead. No where in my comment have I defended it. I have pointed out multiple times that bad data leads to terrible policies/laws.

You’re doing the same shit the anti-abortion nuts do. Make stats fit your narrative. It’s why another AWB won’t do shit. It’s why UBCs won’t do shit. It’s why waiting periods won’t do shit. Because all of those things and all of this “common sense” gun legislation isn’t common sense, it’s idiotic, because it’s built on junk data.

More kids die getting to school, more die from drowning, more die from preventable diseases…the only reason one is to many for you in this instance is because you hate the idea of an armed populous. It’s not about the deaths, it’s about how they die.

It’s bad data because it’s used as a contention point to make people think mass shootings happen ever 4 seconds or a school shooting every day. When this is completely incorrect. We get pissed at scientist who indulge in their papers, but this gets a pass?

They’re all in one link. They don’t have a distinction. That’s why the data is shit

You asked a loaded question, but if you want to use a source, use the FBI data.

And was there more than one school shooting this year? Because that’s one more than almost every other Western country.

This is your own question, which you answered by saying it’s one more than almost every other Western country. So no you weren’t asking a question, you were trying to make a statement.

That is a disgusting lie. I said nothing of the sort.

You did. You’re downplaying the fact that the GVA uses junk data to drive an agenda.

I’m literally doing the opposite of that since I asked you what source should be used.

By using the next line of:

Then I asked you if there was more than one.

Which implies that. Who cares as if there is more than one it’s the same problem. Which is not the case at all, if we had thousands of kids being killed constantly in school, that’s a totally different issue than if we had one outlier shooting every year.

I didn’t say anything even remotely like, “who cares if it’s false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere.”

You pretty much did. You are equally giving weight to false numbers.

You should be ashamed of yourself with trolling this shitty.

You clearly don’t understand trolling, at this point you should know I’m not a troll.

I should have realized you’d lie about what I said in direct response to the thing I said yet again since this is the third or fourth time you’ve done it.

Sure thing, totally… you’re all about the truth and you really are for legislation that’ll actually fix the problem, not emotionally driven legislation, because even 1 school shooting is the same as 50…

Oh, and now it’s time for you to tell the lie that I want to ban guns. You’ve done that one before.

The end goal is always, a ban from the anti2a crowd. Making something so damn impossible to obtain, is a defacto ban. Just remember that those who put the rules in place, will make sure minorities, LGBTQ+, and women will be the main ones unable to obtain firearms.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/school-shootings?page=1

Have a go through there. You’re literally putting republican logic to your statement…“who cares if it’s false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere”…

Facts matter when discussing these topics, because they are what’s used to create/shape laws. If laws are built upon lies, like the patriot act, then the law was not created with the right goals in mind.

It’s literally in the first paragraph:

There have been at least 50 school shootings in the United States so far this year, as of September 19. Thirteen were on college campuses, and 37 were on K-12 school grounds. The incidents left 24 people dead and at least 66 other victims injured, according to CNN’s analysis of events reported by the Gun Violence Archive, Education Week and Everytown for Gun Safety.

And if you read the article from NPR and look at the data from GVA, you will see a pattern of school shootings that aren’t school shootings, but are counted as such because they happened near a school or some other reason.

An example is a pellet gun being used to shoot out the window on a school bus on the weekend…do you think that should be counted as a school shooting? I hope you don’t.

Using the GVA as a source, is like expecting trump not to lie.

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent

Mobile wise it doesn’t. And as I’ve said already, forums are designed for prolonged discussion. These scroller style mediums are good for short timeframe discussions.