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MYYYYYYYYYYYY promoting drug use??!! :D
I know it sounds wrong too. Of course, obviously, it does, but a pretty cartoon-y solution would be a no-privacy bathroom for the homeless. A private space also provides secrecy and allows crime.
The correct solution of course, is to eliminate drugs and homelessness.
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All the leftists in my city want injection sites, just not near them, somewhere else, just not in my neighborhood!
Oh and surely you went out there and talked to each and every so-called leftist in your city and they told you yes, but not in their neighborhood. Because ofc you did.
You know that is a load of bullshit. All the leftists in my city… Lmao. And why the fuck are you even putting all that responsibility on the leftists in your city? Pathetic. Way to show you’re a garbage conservative that wouldn’t accept an ounce of social responsibility. Drug addiction/abuse doesn’t give two shits about anyone’s political beliefs. It can affect anyone. There are very likely people you care about that struggle with this common medical condition. You need to do better ffs.
The last panel reminded me of almost 20 years ago when the HPV vaccine first came available. Here in the US I remember the conservative backlash over it.
It wasn’t the same as today where conservatives reject the COVID vaccine because that’s how they prove to themselves that their freedom and bodily autonomy are intact or some shit. It was much more along the lines of how they like to see people suffer as long as they can tell themselves it was justified.
So it was basically “my daughter isn’t getting it because she doesn’t need it and isn’t a slut,” and of course they meant it in the way that anybody who IS a slut deserves to be punished with cervical cancer. Back then they didn’t always say the quiet part out loud.
Republicans / religious always treat women like shit. I have no idea why any woman votes R or goes to church. These people literarily think you’re less than them.
Ladies and gents and everything in-between. The drugs are going to get used no matter what.
Just give them somewhere to do them.
The problem is, and I’m sure you don’t need to hear this from me, is that if you give them a place to do drugs they will congregate there and without correct support and supervision (and that is never provided because money) the addicts and community end up at odds with each other.
Got it; Unsupervised Homeless + Safe Space = Thunderdome.
This is a problem?
(/s, but the unethical part of me…)
Then the problem is not having people to supervise nothing bad happens.
But if you put someone to supervise, they will complain because ACAB or something.
Who says they have to be cops?
If you believe that laws forbidding gambling, sale of liquor, sale of contraceptives, requiring definite closing hours, enforcing the Sabbath, or any such, are necessary to the welfare of your community, that is your right and I do not ask you to surrender your beliefs or give up your efforts to put over such laws. But remember that such laws are, at most, a preliminary step in doing away with the evils they indict. Moral evils can never be solved by anything as easy as passing laws alone. If you aid in passing such laws without bothering to follow through by digging in to the involved questions of sociology, economics, and psychology which underlie the causes of the evils you are gunning for, you will not only fail to correct the evils you sought to prohibit but will create a dozen new evils as well.
—Robert A. Heinlein, Take Back Your Government
That sounds like something Heinlein would write during his earlier days. I completely agree with both the argument and reasoning, even tho he turned anti-Communist and insane before he wrote that.
Funny thing! Here’s a quote from the same book:
Of what use, then, are the American Communists?
They serve one function extremely useful to you and to the country, so useful that, if there were no Communists, we would almost be forced to create some. They are a reliable litmus paper for detecting real sources of danger to the Republic.
Communism is so repugnant to almost all Americans, when they are getting along even tolerably well, that one may predict with certainty that any social field or group in which the Communists make real strides in gaining members or acceptance of their doctrines, any such spot is in such bad shape from real and not imaginary social ills that the rest of us should take emergency, drastic action to investigate and correct the trouble.
Unfortunately we are more prone to ignore the sick spot thus disclosed and content ourselves with calling out more cops.
Honestly a great point. No one wants to create a glorious revolution when their lives are going well.
Switzerland cleaned up their drug problem.
How?
They built government run facilities for drug addicts and the dosages are controlled by medical staff. The result, decreases in crime, over doses, emergency medical care, and garbage left by junkies. The USA and their pointless War on Drugs is a fucking scam because the problem is the demand for illegal drugs.
That’s not what the word scam means.
The USA and their pointless War on Drugs is a fucking scam because the problem is the demand for illegal drugs.
The other problem/scam is also the demand for slave labor via prisoners, so there’s not much demand for resolving the issue. It also helps that it’s a good weapon to weld against marginalized communities, just sprinkle a little crack on them or bring up old marijuana charges and boom, “justified shooting”.
Drug use room work, ive recently seen a documentary about one in Switzerland and they give people the possibility to consume safely.
We had some in my state and they were all closed down to to crimes like fighting and people setting up camp basically at or around the place
As mentioned before in this thread, that is because the rooms themselves aren’t sufficient, investment in social care involved with the operation of them is as important.
… with a panic button and much greater access to addiction resources.
If there are 10 steps to turning a homeless person into a housed, working taxpayer, this is like step 2.
Canada has failed so move to step 3 because “just arrest those leeches” is the position of half our society.
Drug use rooms?
Why not give all people living in a country homes to live in and be done with it?
Not sure if it is that easy to just built housing for everybody (excluding those 2 people in the entirety of NL who choose to be fully homeless). At least speaking from a NL point of view. If you have no income and you don’t have assets you get money and the ability to rent something. It isn’t a lot of money, but it should be enough to survive. This is sayiong that if you are actually Dutch and not somebody who came from another country without going through the system to get either asylum or become Dutch.
However, it is really hard to find housing for people in general. Even harder if you earn just enough to not have any rights for social security.
I believe the people who want to do drugs here in NL have the ability to do so in coffee shops (the drug serving once)
There’s no logical objection for it, but it goes against the interests of landlords, real estate managers, and other people who see housing as a financial investment rather than a human right. If we want to give people homes to live in that they will not be deprived of, we first have to bring out the guillotine.
That is one option, yes.
But safe injection sites are a good idea even when you’re housed.
In germany they even provide safe syringes, I was impressed when I saw those dispensers in public WCs.
And give them affordable housing and you’ll solve the homelessness problem.
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Thank you for caring and offering that correction. OP’s success needs this feedback, and I hope he takes it to heart.
The language of the left in America has been so thoroughly played with by the right we have to go to absurd lengths to try and communicate any policy approach that involves public interest.
Someone should create safe injection sites and call them “jails” and then I bet right wingers would be all over letting addicts go to jails for “short term incarceration”.
Better yet, create ultra low security “prisons” that allow “prisoners” to have “unescorted temporary absences” but really they’re just free homes for the unhoused and they can sign in and out as they please.
I think that’s the language those people prefer.
Every single one of these always links back to a government that absolutely refuses to help its people. It’s simple cause and effect.
