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Things should not be alive if humans can’t confine or use them for our capitalist purposes!
If I want to steal from you I will. You can try guilting me all you want but I just don’t care.
Pinching off a leaf seems icky, but fallen leaves are fair game.
I usually take the floor leaves and tuck them into a plant or two I actually buy. That way I’m still paying for something and I might get some freebies if I can get the extra leaves to grow but it’s not guaranteed. I probably wouldn’t do this at a local store tho, just the big box stores.
I’m pinching off a leaf right now.
fallen leaves are fair game
I don’t think it works like that. It’s like taking something that’s dropped but usable from the shop floor. They might just sweep it to garbage but they probably aren’t allowing you to take it anyway.
Depending on the shop, they might also be picking up and propagating fallen leaves as well.
That’s true
bUt tHE MuLCh
(this is a non-argument unless people are taking literally every other leaf)
You sound like you steal from the forest. Abhorrent thief.
AbhorrentArbor-ent thief.This comment is an aberration.
abberrationarbor-ationI suspect you called me out to do this by your choice of words. I appreciate it.
You are correct, friend, and you are welcome.
Don’t think mulch about it
I’m not the most familiar with entkind, but are there non arbor ent? Are the entwives something else? Cacti?
On today’s episode of “I wasn’t going to, but now that you mention it, that’s a great idea!”
Heck yeah I would! Oh look, here’s a nice one. I think I’ll put it next to the car I downloaded
Kind of reads like an instruction, not a discouragement.
Like the person who was ordered to make the sign is not the one who wanted it.
It’s not theft, it’s basically dumpster diving for living things. Living things that can grow in dirt with some water. They just see lost profit not an actual product loss.
I’ll say if this is a family run place - it’s still a dick move. If it’s Lowes, Home Depot, or Menards, eh who cares.
If it’s a family run place, just ask the owners tbh. My partner and I once asked about a fallen tradescantia piece and she actually cut us off a bigger piece and wrapped it up for us. Only thing she asked in return was for us to tell her how well it does.
It’s a big plant now :)
Depends. If you weren’t going to buy it anyway, it doesn’t cost them anything. And if you’re grabbing a fallen leaf hoping for something, it seems like you aren’t all that interested anyway.
If you weren’t going to buy it anyway
That can get into rationalization territory.
Just to add some context, succulents are ridiculously easy to propagate from a fallen leaf. You literally just put them somewhere until they sprout roots and stick that in a pot. Takes a week, two max. That said, succulents also take years to mature. Your little sprouted leaf is going to stay small for about 2 years and by 4 or 5 it’ll look decent. So it may be “theft”, but by the time you’ve gotten a plant that’s on par with the one you got a leaf from, years will have passed and you’ll have likely spent money on pots, soil, and fertilizer from the same store you “stole” from. It’s like pinching a small bottle of paint from a craft store then turning around and spending $100 on canvasses and brushes
scribbling notes
so what you’re saying is I need to steal leaves and also paint brushes and art supplies, got it
I only know about Menards because of random factoids, references, and memes. Frankly speaking I have just found out they have plants and are maybe a hardware store.
They’re like a hardware store that has plants, couches, mattresses, food, all sorts of stuff. It’s wild.
So a a big box general store? Of fucking couse the midwest would create such a thing.
Yeah, it’s like a Walmart mixed with a Home Depot mixed with a Sears.
Nah, you’re getting a leaf, not a full plant. A leaf is fucking worthless. If the leaves had value, they would sell them.
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Not really. When you pirate a movie you get the whole thing. Just as if you paid for it.
A succulent leaf, however, needs years to become the size of an actual plant they would sell.
It’s even less damaging than pirating.
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It’s not theft, it’s basically dumpster diving for living things.
That’s often not allowed either
I wasn’t thinking about it before, but I’m thinking about it now.
Already done it.
Oh yeah? Well now I’m just going to proplift even harder!
“Proplift” sounds like it should be a name for a weird helicopter.
Or working out with a poet, political activist, husband, father, academic & emcee who is best known by me as a prolific podcast guest
It’s too bad he’s not proplific.
Yes I would! A weed plant!
I grew professionally for many years. That’s exactly how it works lol. Consistency is key and cloning is the way. I’ve sold single clones for thousands of dollars but the 2nd one was always for maybe a hundred bucks.
In the corpora-fascist future, all plants are copyrighted variants and you merely purchase a license to possess one plant.
You joke, but this is very much a real thing. Even if you buy certain hybrids, it can be technically illegal to propagate from them. The plant will have a little note attached to it saying so.
That’s not the future, man, that’s the farms of today. Monsanto literally searches farms for seeds and will issue huge fines or cancel contracts if they find that farmers are harvesting seeds from their plants. Monsanto owns the rights to seeds.
Not only that, monsanto goes after neighboring farms if their neighbors use “patented” plants and claims they cannot harvest seeds because that would include the seeds that originate from the plants grown from the seeds blown by wind from their already fucked neighbors.
Now that is truly dystopian.
This is already happening. There’s a company who copyrighted a breed of pineapple. They charge $400 for said pineapple and the company intentionally chops the top completely off, so that it cannot be propagated. Normally, you can take the green part of a pineapple, put it in the ground, and a few years later you’ll have a new pineapple. It’s ridiculous.
Most plant varieties are copywrited, or somwthing similar. It’s not actually as crazy as it sounds but it’s definitely abused, just like all copyright law.
Most are specially bred to produce specific styles of fresh produce, like bananas, but this was the first company I’d heard of that removed the ability to propagate. (Aside from seedless stuff like watermelon/grapes) You can go to Japan and get one of the hundred dollar strawberries and you could technically keep the seeds. Lettuce, onion, garlic, tomatoes, peppers, berries, bananas, ginger, potatoes, corn; almost everything can grow from leftover cooking scraps. Plants are resilient.
Chopping the top off, is capitalism at its worst. I can understand not allowing another company to sell the genetically modified produce, but cutting off the top lowers the shelf life and makes it impossible to re-grow. It’s pure greed… especially when it can take 3+ years for a pineapple to produce more fruit.
Living things shouldn’t be copyrighted tbh. Neither should food. Plants often being both, but always the first one at least.
I think if a company is going to dump millions into developing a new product, they should be able to at least recoup the investment they made.
Who’s stopping them from doing that?
A time-limited license for Plant as a service. It’s a subscription model.
PaaS would be too-often confused with “platform as a service”, it needs to be Vegetation as a Service (VaaS).
Doubly funny in dutch cuz vaas is Dutch for vase.
Is it a crime to enjoy a succulent leaf?
Without a subscription? Yes.
This is democracy manifest.
This gentleman touched my fruits!
I see you know your topiary well.
Are you waiting to receive my wilted branch?
I fully support this sign. I think I’ll print up a few dozen copies, and post them at every garden center in the area.
It’s one thing to ban snipping off nodes and such but fallen fuckin succulent leaves? Get the fuck out of here lol
Read with a strong new jersey accent. 10/10
