Ukrainian flag at 87,210, it looks like!

Very cool pieces of history!

I live to serve!

(though honestly I don’t think about the Galactic Empire that much - nice stormtroopers, but that’s about it for me)

“Just cry harder, liberals are as bad as fascists” - acceptable, normal

[mocking this view] - UNACCEPTABLE, rude, how dare you be this unproductive 😭

Fucking listen to yourself, and maybe reflect on who and what you choose to tone police.

Nah, Russia just finally decided to scrap the old Kuznetsov. End of an era (of the Kuznetsov being tugged around and randomly catching fire even in peacetime)

Yes Cassian, this imperial sympathizer right here

I mean, on one hand, yes; on the other hand, if the ship wasn’t already in massive disrepair, it would be much cheaper to train even an entire crew than scrap the ship.

I wish I could say I was surprised.

I can tell you, American liberals are just as much to blame for fascism as the uneducated morons brainwashed by it.

“D-don’t blame people who allowed fascism to take over… that’s mean… but FUCK those who tried to stop it, literally as bad as fascists!”

About the level of discourse I expect from Lemmy at this point.

But it’s closer to the original ‘Founding Fathers’ this way

The Communist Manifesto is linked in the sidebar - good and a pretty short read.

Honestly, if someone wants me killed, that’s generally the least of my beef with them.

I don’t remember the names of most interchangeable tankie fuckwads, but I presume, from the mention of NCD, that this is the one that opted to call the Tiananmen Square massacre as perpetrated by “CIA militants” fighting with the glorious PLA who were only heroically defending themselves against Amerikkkan aggression.

“Socialists are routinely assassinated”

Damn, is it 1970 again?

The simping for propaganda and totalitarian surveillance of the population is amusing, in a grim, dark, “Fascists are so fucking braindead” kind of way.

It’s welcome here!

Facts don’t matter. All up and down this thread is just utter disregard for any aspect of reality that contradicts the narrative.

We’re not any smarter than the fascists, apparently. Just less morally repugnant.

Yeah, but first you were talking about how the general populace was going right

They subsequently elected Starmer, of all people, didn’t they?

This idea that success (which maybe doesn’t require to form the next government) translates to a higher share in votes might be a statistical thing, but it’s not constructive, it just leads to opportunism.

I’m sorry, if Corbyn didn’t form a government, as majority or coalition partner, didn’t move politics in the UK left, nor politics in his own party left, nor moved demographics in the UK left… what kind of success are we looking at, here?

For the record, I’m not blaming Corbyn for this loss. Far from it. I’m only saying that going left is not enough

Yeah you can say that to suit your narrative, but it’s complete BS. In fact Corbyn had significantly more votes in 2017 and 2019 than Starmer in 2024.

Which governments did Labour form at the time, again?

The left has to convince voters, not follow them, wtf

Electoral success and convincing people are not mutually exclusive options; the former is an immensely powerful tool for the latter. Unless your plan is “Hand the gun over to the fascists, put it to your head, and hope that when they pull the trigger it will inspire the masses to spontaneously learn the words to the Internationale in their hearts and rise up against fascism”, it involves some amount of concessions to the majority of voters.

But sure, run on gay marriage in 1940 until you win, I’m sure the Black folk who are being lynched won’t mind waiting another few decades, nor will the unions seeking better conditions, nor the folks trying to stop social security from being repealed etc etc etc etc.

And when you ask them what performative outrage that is, their answer is generally less “They made minor economic concessions to the working class!” and more “They acknowledged that BROWN people and TRANS people have RIGHTS”

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There are definite parallels, but I think they relate more broadly to the general behavior of authoritarian states rather than being exceptional comparable as policies. ICE is currently being used as to scapegoat ‘foreigners’ using bureaucratic violations, real or just percieved, to justify expelling them from US territory, with probably the ultimate goal of extending this to citizens and the general operation of a secret police on US soil. I would compare this more to internal Israeli policy for the first few decades of its existence with regards to Palestinians - the goal is expulsion, using a legal gray area (that is, nonetheless, plainly and unambiguously morally abhorrent) to engage in a form of ethnic cleansing.

China’s current policy resembles more the Residential Schools of the US and Canada in the 19th and 20th centuries, wherein the culture of a native society is stomped out by a mixture of violence, relocation, sterilization, and economic and political pressure, with the end-goal of either reducing their numbers to the point of being entirely marginalized or exterminated, or eliminating their culture and ethnic existence by force. Or else the Turkish treatment of the Kurds and other ethnic minorities in the mid-late-20th century. The goal is the destruction of the ethnicity itself, not just its removal from valuable territory.