• Coreidan@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    If I want to steal from you I will. You can try guilting me all you want but I just don’t care.

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    On today’s episode of “I wasn’t going to, but now that you mention it, that’s a great idea!”

  • El_guapazo@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    It’s not theft, it’s basically dumpster diving for living things. Living things that can grow in dirt with some water. They just see lost profit not an actual product loss.

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        6 months ago

        If it’s a family run place, just ask the owners tbh. My partner and I once asked about a fallen tradescantia piece and she actually cut us off a bigger piece and wrapped it up for us. Only thing she asked in return was for us to tell her how well it does.

        It’s a big plant now :)

      • Serinus@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Depends. If you weren’t going to buy it anyway, it doesn’t cost them anything. And if you’re grabbing a fallen leaf hoping for something, it seems like you aren’t all that interested anyway.

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          6 months ago

          If you weren’t going to buy it anyway

          That can get into rationalization territory.

        • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
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          6 months ago

          Just to add some context, succulents are ridiculously easy to propagate from a fallen leaf. You literally just put them somewhere until they sprout roots and stick that in a pot. Takes a week, two max. That said, succulents also take years to mature. Your little sprouted leaf is going to stay small for about 2 years and by 4 or 5 it’ll look decent. So it may be “theft”, but by the time you’ve gotten a plant that’s on par with the one you got a leaf from, years will have passed and you’ll have likely spent money on pots, soil, and fertilizer from the same store you “stole” from. It’s like pinching a small bottle of paint from a craft store then turning around and spending $100 on canvasses and brushes

          • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            scribbling notes

            so what you’re saying is I need to steal leaves and also paint brushes and art supplies, got it

      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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        6 months ago

        I only know about Menards because of random factoids, references, and memes. Frankly speaking I have just found out they have plants and are maybe a hardware store.

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        6 months ago

        Nah, you’re getting a leaf, not a full plant. A leaf is fucking worthless. If the leaves had value, they would sell them.

      • calcopiritus@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Not really. When you pirate a movie you get the whole thing. Just as if you paid for it.

        A succulent leaf, however, needs years to become the size of an actual plant they would sell.

        It’s even less damaging than pirating.

    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      It’s not theft, it’s basically dumpster diving for living things.

      That’s often not allowed either

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      6 months ago

      I grew professionally for many years. That’s exactly how it works lol. Consistency is key and cloning is the way. I’ve sold single clones for thousands of dollars but the 2nd one was always for maybe a hundred bucks.

  • xia@lemmy.sdf.org
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    6 months ago

    In the corpora-fascist future, all plants are copyrighted variants and you merely purchase a license to possess one plant.

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      You joke, but this is very much a real thing. Even if you buy certain hybrids, it can be technically illegal to propagate from them. The plant will have a little note attached to it saying so.

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      6 months ago

      That’s not the future, man, that’s the farms of today. Monsanto literally searches farms for seeds and will issue huge fines or cancel contracts if they find that farmers are harvesting seeds from their plants. Monsanto owns the rights to seeds.

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        Not only that, monsanto goes after neighboring farms if their neighbors use “patented” plants and claims they cannot harvest seeds because that would include the seeds that originate from the plants grown from the seeds blown by wind from their already fucked neighbors.

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        6 months ago

        Most plant varieties are copywrited, or somwthing similar. It’s not actually as crazy as it sounds but it’s definitely abused, just like all copyright law.

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          Most are specially bred to produce specific styles of fresh produce, like bananas, but this was the first company I’d heard of that removed the ability to propagate. (Aside from seedless stuff like watermelon/grapes) You can go to Japan and get one of the hundred dollar strawberries and you could technically keep the seeds. Lettuce, onion, garlic, tomatoes, peppers, berries, bananas, ginger, potatoes, corn; almost everything can grow from leftover cooking scraps. Plants are resilient.

          Chopping the top off, is capitalism at its worst. I can understand not allowing another company to sell the genetically modified produce, but cutting off the top lowers the shelf life and makes it impossible to re-grow. It’s pure greed… especially when it can take 3+ years for a pineapple to produce more fruit.

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          6 months ago

          Living things shouldn’t be copyrighted tbh. Neither should food. Plants often being both, but always the first one at least.

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            6 months ago

            I think if a company is going to dump millions into developing a new product, they should be able to at least recoup the investment they made.

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    6 months ago

    I fully support this sign. I think I’ll print up a few dozen copies, and post them at every garden center in the area.

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    6 months ago

    It’s one thing to ban snipping off nodes and such but fallen fuckin succulent leaves? Get the fuck out of here lol