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      Those who profit from the status quo are the same who could have that information consolidated for review. They also know that maintaining your apathy is central to their business model.

      If they have created a system by which they can profit immensely, but that profit could be taken away by the masses at anytime, the last thing they will do is enable you to care.

      Your comment shows that they have been successful in tricking you into not only not caring, but actually advocating against your own interests.

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      They should unironically do this (I suppose they would need the family’s permission). But a Senator could make quite a name for themselves by reading off the names of Americans who have died due to being denied coverage.

      On the other hand, given the current climate, they’d probably end up getting harassed by red hats so maybe not.

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    As someone that calls police out to their face while accepting them throwing rocks at my house, following me to the bank and the store, following me in the stores, having their kids harass me everywhere I go … and I still mock and call them names and send letters to judges, chief of police, and city council, state legislators, send letters and call congress and the president, attends protests, gives money to bail funds, complains to family and friends about the state of the USA only to be rebuffed and ostracized by them too,

    Fuck you for whining about me still caring about a life.

    Just fuck your weak, violence wanting ass. You are just as bad as them.

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      Tim Walz made some gross tweet mourning this guy and calling it a tragic loss. Kinda underlines the whole “Democratic establishment is out of touch” line we’ve been hearing since the election

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        To be fair, the lead filled CEO was from Walz’s state. He is kind of required to make a statement and he couldnt exactly say “fuck that guy”.

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          He definitely could have said that. If the party of morons followed that line they would have won the damn election.

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      Tell that to the police who decided they actually are going to try this time to find the killer. Tell that to the news juicing the story. They care and they will use your money to do something about it.

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        Then I advise you stop watching their bullshit news network and find other sources for news. Maybe more grassroots media.

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          Pretending people don’t watch or shouldn’t watch mainstream media doesn’t change what I said. Also, alot of presumptions to assume I don’t have good trustable news sources (not these guys for sure).

          Point is, people watch it and they are being fed a juiced up story and worth recognizing that so that you can continue to operate on the same reality as everyone else. At least enough to not be surprised.

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    More Americans die every year because of lack of access to medical care than from all of our wars combined.

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          Actual research finds that annual “deaths caused due to lack of insurance” is around 40-50 thousand

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        Actual research finds that annual “deaths caused due to lack of insurance” is around 40-50 thousand (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2775760/)

        and “if the usa had healthcare as good as france, 101 thousand annual deaths would be prevented” (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-deaths-rankings-idUSN0765165020080108/)

        as for war deaths, the ~100 thousand barrier is breached when all wars back to the korean war (1950-1953) are included. Then world war 2 is massively over

        so the literal truth of the original statement is that it’s maybe mostly correct if you consider “our wars” to only be wars that the usa played a key role in starting, and only count the last century, but false if not

        (eg. the civil war would totally blow the number out of the water, world war 2 would totally blow the number out of the water, and with the unpopular vietnam war it would depend on what exactly your standards of “lack of access to medical care” are)

    • L3ft_F13ld!@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I agree that glorifying him is an absolute incel take, but like the other commenter said, this is actually an appropriate use for this template. This isn’t glorifying him or anything.

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      Where the Joker excels is pointing out horrifying issues within our society. This is, in fact, one of those situations. It isn’t saying it’s good that the CEO was murdered, rather pointing out that society at large doesn’t care if it’s poor people who die by the millions. One CEO and it’s the most important thing happening. If this amount of effort and money went towards helping poor people then their issues would be solved, but instead we’re wasting it talking about one rich bastard only.

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          As the other comment says, different joker. Also, yeah a lot of its stupid and cringy. It all depends on the author and the context. As with all art though, it’s a tool for the author to send a message. Almost every hero and villain is a vessel for the author to talk through. They are making art and have something to say. You aren’t supposed to like the Joker, but he is supposed to carry a message still. That message is usually that our society is inhumane and flawed and treats people horribly.

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        My wife always has the good morning America shit on in the morning and they didn’t say a damn thing today about the shooting. I wonder if the media billionaires have told their faces not to talk about this anymore.

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          I don’t think Good Morning America is that kind of show… It has been over a decade since I have watched broadcast TV so maybe I’m wrong, but I always remember that show as being one of those super positive, bubbly, morning shows that are all human interest stories and fluff? They’re not going to talk about dark shit like that unless it’ s like… 9/11 level. And at that point, they’d just cut to breaking news.

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      I mean this meme template is old as a donkey, we’re not “glorifying” the joker. Just so happens the meme is fittingly dark. A perfect 5/7 meme

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      And we know their names and surnames, especially for CEOs.

      Luckily, bullets outnumber evil CEOs.

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        Step right up! Pitchforks for sale! Only $79.95 plus shipping and handling. Financing available in three easy payments of $28.17!

        (some restrictions may apply, offer not valid in Florida, Texas or Puerto Rico. Pitchfork LLC is a wholly owned subsidiary of Ragebait Incorporated, licenced and incorporated in Delaware. Side affects of pitchforks include insomnia, narcolepsy, vomiting, diarrhea, and CEO death and inprisonment. Pitchfork LLC and Ragebait Incorporated not responsible for shit. Payment plan interest rate 32.7% compounded daily.)

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          Is it bad that I read that last section in the super fast barely intelligible voice they use in medication ads?

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    This is stupid because I have not seen one comment from anyone other than other CEOs that is not celebrating his death.

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      That’s the point. You did it. You discovered the discrepancy. No one cares and Infact we are celebrating. However the police are pumping money into mass manhunt, news is juicing the story nonstop. 10k reward for info. Obviously the powers that be care and care a lot that a CEO got shot. You don’t. I don’t. And yet by time it’s over, hundreds of thousands of dollars will have been spent in man-hours hunting this guy down. An amount of money that would be ridiculous if you or I got shot. No one would care. But a CEO? nYPD pulling out every stop they got.

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        10k reward for info

        Which is frankly hilarious. UnitedHealthCare group grossed $90 billion in the last 12 months and they are offering only a $10,000 reward for help finding the assassin. I bet their next CEO gets 10 to 100 times that much in just a signing bonus.

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        10k reward for info.

        Isn’t that standard for info on a murder? I feel like I’ve heard this before. Maybe it’s usually “up to” 10k. Idk.

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      Healthcare should not be profit driven.

      You asked me to.

      I’m glad that I live in a country with socialized healthcare.

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        I’m glad for you too. Sometimes I wonder what life would be like if my parents had stayed in one of three countries we lived in before settling in the US.

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      Insurance is just a bad model for healthcare.

      I don’t have any problem with hospital workers being fairly compensated. They have difficult jobs, and doctors are highly skilled and have expensive student loans to pay off. But the cost of care in the US is astronomical compared to any other industrialized nation.

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    Seems like its the other way around on here. Honestly, the insurance system should just change to universal health care and if wealthy people aren’t content they could just buy an extra insurance on top or pay themselves while still contributing to public health. The system is at fault, not a replaceable CEO. Because while he might be replaceable for the company, he sure still had a family, friends and nothing will change now

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      Perhaps, wishful thinking I know… But perhaps, this will give the next CEO some slight pause when considering screwing over millions of people for the financial gain of already rich people. PERHAPS, now that there’s a tangible consequence for being a greedy murderous asshat, they’ll think twice… Probably not, but I can hope.

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      The “replaceable CEO” is part of the reason the system is broken in the first place.

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        Most humans and human work are inherently replaceable. Even great minds that have novel ideas. At some point someone else will come up with the same idea. Even US Presidents are. On a systematic level everyone is. I just wanted to highlight that the CEO, while head of operations of a company, is only lended this power and not really in charge. I think humans (not on a personal level) are inherently replaceable sadly but I don’t think any system changes this

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    This 16 million thing is really making the rounds. It’s not 16 million deaths. It’s 16 million requests for insurance to pay the bill being denied. Yes, it almost assuredly results in lowered quality of life and probably even shortens lifespan (I don’t know how dramatically), but 16 million dying on the regular would wipe out the population pretty quickly.