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A short video still featuring a woman with blonde hair and a text overlay that reads “Things I prefer in the US as a German” with American and German flag emojis, and further states “I don’t know why we don’t have bagels in Germany.”

Above this, the social media post caption reads “I can think of a reason!” The post is from “Vikram Bath @vikrambath.bsky.social.”

    • hOrni@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Bagels come from Poland? They aren’t even a thing here anymore. I never saw one in my life.

    • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      And a staple of a New York Classic, the Breakfast Sandwich! New Yorkers might pick fights over how other cities do their pizza and hotdogs, but god help you if you try to take their breakfast egg and bagel.

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        I honestly prefer a good buttermilk biscuit for breakfast sandwiches. If you have a Tudor’s Biscuit World near you go try them out! They are the only good fast food restaurant to work for, as in you get benefits, stock options, and will retire comfortably if you stay with them for 20 years. They also make some absolutely banging giant biscuit sandwiches.

      • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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        5 months ago

        Listen I love bagels. I just want to say that, there’s a reason it’s so popular and done so well by the good people living in NYC.

        It’s probably the same reason that bagels are either rare, or kind of suck by comparison in Germany.

  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    I just want to put it out there that not all begals are equal…

    In Southern California we have places like “Einstein’s Begals”. These taste like soggy compressed cardboard.

    In New York, however, they have these crispy, amazing circles of heaven. These are life-changing.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Of course we have bagels in Germany. But with a good Baker having one or two dozen variants of rolls anyway, nobody actually needs defect rolls with a hole in the middle.

    • washbasin@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      I would never consider a bagel as a roll. I’m not sure what I would call it except excellent. But it isn’t a roll with a hole in the middle. I’m legitimately sorry if that has been your bagel experience.

      • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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        5 months ago

        Rolls are good, don’t get me wrong, but there’s a certain density to bagels that most rolls don’t have any business trying to imitate.

        It’s just a different type of bread product entirely.

        If people prefer rolls, that’s cool. Eat what you like, but nobody should be going around saying that rolls are universally better than bagels. They’re different, sometimes you feel like eating a while loaf of bread in one handheld package and bagels are there for you.

        Don’t judge me.

    • ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      Tell me you’ve never had a decent bagel without telling me you’ve never had a decent bagel. A bagel is not a roll.

      • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        Maybe bagels are better than American rolls, but that is not exactly aiming high. Have you ever tried German rolls? Because after that, you won’t touch bagels anymore, unless you go back to the US. And yes, I’ve had them all, and I don’t understand how you can stand those squishy, HFCS-loaded things.

        • ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works
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          5 months ago

          You’re either responding to the wrong comment. Can’t read. Or you think straw man arguments are valid.

          I never said either was better, just that’s it’s foolish to confuse or compare the two.

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            5 months ago

            it’s not, though - in europe, the term “roll” encompasses much more baked goods than it does in the US I assume, because to me bagels are a kind of roll, hope that makes sense. I guess it’s kind of like how biscuits are different to americans also.

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              5 months ago

              Another European here. Might be because I’m into baking but I don’t think a bagel should be classified as a roll. Bagels are boiled in water prior to baking which gives them a rather unique texture compared to rolls.

              Sadly most commercially available “bagels” are not actually produced in this way.

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                5 months ago

                the main thing that gives bagels their texture is the highly developed gluten - the water is just to prevent the crust from becoming crispy basically

        • miridius@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          The order of superiority goes like this:

          American bagels > German rolls > German bagels > American rolls

          • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            The America bagel is definitely at the wrong end. It is better than American rolls, but that’s it.

  • SomeGuy69@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    We have bagel here, so.

    I never saw a reason to get a bagel if I could get better tasting alternatives. However since every bakery get stupid expensive I haven’t bought anything but blank buns there anyways. I’m not going to pay 6€ for some bagel and still be hungry afterwards. Keep it

    • BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      I don’t hate bagels, but in the end it’s just pretty dry funny shaped bread. I assume americans go crazy for bagels because their normal bread is ass. If you have some good alternatives or you can bake yourself, i don’t really see the point.

    • Ech@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      In the US at least, bagels are stereotypically popular among jewish people.

    • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      The joke is that bagel shops are a Jewish food, so most bagel shops are owned and operated by Jews. And Germany did that whole holocaust thing, where they systematically tried to wipe out the Jews.

      It’d be a little bit like if a country tried to wipe out Indian people, then went “Hmm why don’t we have any good Indian restaurants?”

      • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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        5 months ago

        Not a great example though, because Britain literally conquered India and we’re full of great Indian restaurants.

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          5 months ago

          Britain is a cultural kleptomaniac, not remove everyone who isn’t British from their lands and make everything British.

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          5 months ago

          Did you systemically persecute Indian business owners in Britain, escalating it to ethnic cleansing?

          The analogy is historically exact.

  • Jackfinished@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I had a friend from Germany say the same thing, didn’t call them out on it but man I laughed later.

  • mugthol@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    I honestly don’t get to bagel hype so I would be glad if somebody could explain it to me. Why wouldn’t you just have a sandwich instead?

    • ramirezmike@programming.dev
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      5 months ago

      I’ll add to the others that A LOT of places don’t make bagels well. If it feels like you’re just eating bread then it’s not a good bagel. It should be chewy but also somewhat hard on the outside. A good bagel also doesn’t need to be toasted because it’s fresh.

    • i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      5 months ago

      It’s all in the texture for me. The denser, somewhat chewy bagel is really nice and holds up to cream cheese a lot better than sandwich bread. They are amazing open face with cream cheese. Some folks like them with butter. It’s fine, but I do love cream cheese far more. I’ve had bagel sandwiches, which can be really good, but I do find them to be really heavy. (Plain or blueberry bagel, with cream cheese and sliced ham is my go-to for a bagel sandwich.)

      You can get all sorts of flavors of bagels, like cinnamon, blueberry, and onion. You can get schmear (cream cheese spread) with many different varieties of mixins too, like herbs, fish, and lemon! I think my favorite combo is an onion bagel with garlic herb schmear.

      That being said, I do love a good sandwich too.

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        5 months ago

        I am not entirely sure you really like cream cheese, as you mentioned cream cheese only 5 times in your comment

      • FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works
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        5 months ago

        I like cream cheese. I usually go with butter and cream cheese, followed by salmon and maybe some lemon or dill/mustard sauce. Have you ever tried making cream cheese pastry? I don’t have the recipe at hand but you can make a dough with like 50% cream cheese. Roll it in a circle, top with smoked salmon (or ham I guess), cut into pizza slices and roll into mini croissants and they come out of the oven so crispy and cheesy and delicious it’s the best way to consume a lot of cream cheese IMHO

      • PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de
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        5 months ago

        To tie this whole meme convo back into a circle, schmear is a yiddish word that comes from German schmieren which means to spread!

      • FardyCakes@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        You know what’s a great way to spruce up a bagel and cream cheese and get kind of a sandwich too? Add lettuce, tomato, and onion and eat the bagel like a sandwich.

        I do everything bagel, toasted with either veggie or jalapeño cream cheese with lettuce, tomato, and onion and boy howdy.

        Also great on an egg and cheese as well.

      • HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        Kinda the same reason crumpets, rye bread and Naan bread exist - they go better for different things in different ways.

        Im personally a salmom/cream cheese bagel guy

    • jasep@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Hard to explain without experiencing it. Once you have an amazing bagel, you’ll know.

    • JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      Here’s my opinion of how to try a bagel in its most classic format, me being someone from the northeast but not New York. Everything bagel, cut in half (like a sandwich), toasted, smear each open face with plain cream cheese (can substitute for veggie cream cheese), eat each half separately.

      Otherwise it’s just a different shape of bread like ciabatta or baguette. Personally I don’t love bagels for sandwiches because they tend to not hold up structurally, but bagel is my favorite context for cream cheese.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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      5 months ago

      The way bread is made can make a huge difference in a sandwich. Bagels are made differently than most sandwich breads and offer a different flavor and texture profile.

      Like, would you rather have some really good French bread or Wonderbread when you make a sandwich?

    • iegod@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      Good bagels aren’t actually common. You want them from a good place, and you want them fresh. The kind you get that have been baked and sitting out for hours aren’t going to be as good. The kind you buy from grocery stores absolutely don’t cut it.

  • lemmylommy@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    We don’t? I am eating Aldi bagels right now, lol.

    They might not be as widespread, or as good as in New York, especially when it comes to the fast food, but you can absolutely get them in almost every supermarket.