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Have I been playing Skyrim wrong all this time?
No, it’s the same thing. You’re an arrow who jumps on the heads of enemies.
Wait, you didn’t think you were the person with the bow did you? The stealth archer is inconsequential to the story. It’s the arrow that matters.
Someone call a psychiatrist, we have another case of Other Games Syndrome.
You’ll be ok. Let’s just sit down and play either of your games. Do you want to play Super Mario, or Last of Us
You owe Todd a lot of quarters missy.
As far as I’m concerned Pong is the ONLY video game worth playing.
all downhill from there… not
It went back and forth.
Pretty simple they hit the ball in your direction, you hit it back.
Truck simulator 2012 changed that.
You’re clearly missing the intricacies of the game. Not to mention the whole cold war story arc. I’d suggest educating yourself before replying…/s
I thought it was a simple football game with only the goalies and bouncy walls. But clearly it’s much more than that
The Last of Us is just something I cannot get in to. Been trying for 10 years. I just do not care and it bores me to death even when I was trying to force myself to stay with it. Turns out as I get older, I still don’t want walking simulators. I still just want more of the games I played as a kid, and luckily I still have them all.
I absolutely loved playing The Last of Us. But I find no enjoyment in ever playing it again (I tried and got bored). It will be like rewatching a movie I’ve seen, but meanwhile having to relearn how to watch it as well. I think these storydriven games have their place, but there are surely more engaging games.
TLoU is as far as I know the only instance of a movie or series adaptation of a video game being better than its source material.
I’ve been balls fucking deep in Spider-Man 2 lately. I got it a couple weeks ago and haven’t stopped since. I’m already almost 100% done with my NG+ run. I got a bunch of costume mods and some gameplay tweak mods, and I’m having a blast swinging around the expanded NYC (including Queens and Brooklyn) in all these different costumes that all honestly look fantastic.
It’s just more of the same/similar Spider-Man games we’ve all been playing for the better part of 20 years, but it’s just so goddamn fun.
It is fine to have a different experience and taste in games. But The Last Of Us is absolutely not a Walking Sim. For one thing, Walking Sims, by definition, have no combat. You just walk around and explore a place and uncover a story along the way. TLOU is filled with stealth combat and 3rd person shooting, survival horror style resource management, as well as exploration and an unfolding story.
I think what you mean is that you dislike Narrative-driven adventure games. Walking Sims are a sub-genre of narrative driven games, but not all narrative driven games are Walking Sims. The Last Of Us is an narrative- driven action-adventure survival-horror game.
You can bypass 90% of the game challenges by just running past it, it works alarmingly well.
Okay. Doesn’t make it a walking sim still
I agree. Rogue lites and choose 3
I like walking sims but I hate stealth action games. Will never be able to play TLOU.
Also hearing about what they did in the 2nd one kinda kills my interest.
Did what in the second one? Made the stealth action more involved?
Made a questionable choice with the story that required retconning the depiction of the final antagonists from the first game, among other choices.
I dunno what you heard but the Fireflies didn’t get retconned.
In the ps3 release the Fireflies hospital was dirty and dingy. In the sequel it’s all squeaky clean.
In the first game the Fireflies are portrayed as shortsighted and incapable of even crossing the country with heavy weaponry. In the sequel they’re treated as if they were perfectly capable of making and disseminating a vaccine.
Neil clearly didn’t like how the first games story turned out and made the sequel into his little fanfic.
Your idea of a retcon is that the hospital looks different in the sequel game in that tiny cutscene you see? It’s not even true, the hospital is still dirty and dingy. You’re also claiming a character having a wishful opinion is a retcon.
Neither of these are retcons.
There’s zero plot or story changes here too to even start making the assertion a retcon happened. How and why are you escalating to accusing the entire TLOU2 of being a fanfic because of two extremely minor things about the previous game, one of which isn’t even true.
It’s literally the definition of a retcon, and there’s way more, but you’re clearly not worth talking to.

You really don’t see a difference here?!?
Maybe it’s the gay or the woman with muscles
It’s not that. It’s story beats. I explained it in another comment.
Unfortunately foe the both of us, because rightwingers used this game for their agenda, neither of us will ever be taken seriously. It’s like telling one of those narcissists that make their abusive childhood their entire personality that running a stoplight is bad.
I hope the 4th Witcher game ends up being good, because I’m not sure how many more times I can watch the same situation go down, man.
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The second game starts off with killing the MC from the first game and you follow the other MC around on their revenge tour. From the bits I’ve seen it’s going for an ultra gritty, introspective, Walking Dead style narrative that I just honestly don’t care for anymore. It’s just not my thing.
I also don’t want to invest in the series when I know the main guy from the first one gets done dirty.
I wouldn’t call it “Walking Dead” style. If anything, it wears its Cormac McCarthy influences on its sleeve. If the first game was The Road, the second game is Blood Meridian. The story is intentionally dreary, miserable, uncomfortable, and emotionally draining. Kotaku’s review of the game was pretty on the money for a lot of people, it’s entirely possible to be so put off by the tone and story of the game because it’s so miserable.
The thing is that you play as Ellie and then as Abby to get both perspectives on the story. The entire message of the game is that revenge and unending conflict a downward spiral of self-destruction. Joel gets done dirty… but so does everyone. That’s the whole point of the game.
Sure. I respect the choice and understand why people like it. But it’s definitely not a story for me. I think I’d just burn out of playing something that dreary for so long only then having to go through it again from the other perspective.
Between that and hating stealth games it’s just not a game for me.
I can respect that others love it but it’s not a game for me.
Nobody else inserted quarters into their computer whenever you died in Doom?
You can’t die in Doom. Per the quote - you die after jumping on enemies. The lack of jump button and infinitely tall monsters were specifically implemented to prevent player death in Doom.
That’s why it’s considered a milestone game. Truely astonishingly design.
I did once. The quarter fell onto some solder points and short circuited a bunch of stuff. Fried the whole machine. This was back in the early 90s, of course, when a typical computer cost as much as a nice used car and maybe four people in the county had one, much less knew how to fix one. Some original joke about getting beaten with jumper cables. Sometimes the hard lessons are the ones that stick with you most because as I got older, I learned how to solder and perform board level repairs. It’s an insanely useful skill.
i love how it says 1972 while showing the original super mario bros
Anyone else with fond 1970s memories of finding the parents’ lock to the coinbox of the home NES?
Also, once you think about it, the last of us isn’t even categorically a game.
The cut scenes are good, but the stealth bits are really exciting gameplay too. Genuinely scared my partner with the faces I pulled playing the left behind expansion.
https://youtu.be/e5jDspIC4hY?t=214 is the timestamp for that final definition of what I generally try to push as the definition of a game. Not sure I agree with it, but it’s an interesting take and what I was mostly speaking to.
Ah interesting. I’m a big fan of the “what is a sport” pub chat, so this is fun too. “single player game” = oxymoron doesn’t hit common understanding of what constitutes a game, but I don’t think we have a word for the subset of games being singled out here.
Is there a level of capability for AI where you would consider them “agents” according to this schema? Obviously TLOU enemies don’t qualify, and multiplayer is generally more fun. Aah so many questions. I’m going to have to find someone who will put up with 2hrs of debate on this if I stand them pints.
Clearly the showrunner has never played a video game.
It’s frustrating how people in charge are so far away from reality.
Remember when Kathleen Kennedy said that writing for Star Wars is hard because there aren’t any books and comics?
She can’t have said that.
Jurassic World director Colin Trevorrow was slated to write and direct Episode IX before you brought J.J. Abrams back in. Is this final entry in the trilogy a particularly hard nut to crack?
Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be.What the Michael A. Stackpole is she on about?
As bad as that last movie was, I’m still glad Colin Trevorrow want allowed anywhere near it. There are few directors who are that out of their depth when given a big budget…
Hate to break it to you, but…
What the ACTUAL fuck?
This explains so much.
Can’t use material you don’t own, if your primary interest is money.
No books or comics*
*That we own the rights to
But they did take things from pre-Disney books (and made them worse)
So on one hand, that reads to me like she meant “we are not pulling from the existing comics or books”, as opposed to “we are unaware of them”.
On the other hand, the Darth Caedus (aka Jacen Solo) might have something to say about Kylo Ren being an “original concept” that “was not pulled from the books or comics”.
Lol what? That’s like saying drawing is hard if there’s no connect the dots
I have a biased take here, but:
It’s so much worse than that. It’s like saying “We can’t trace any completed connect the dots drawings” when there were 200 already completed connect the dots drawings specifically based on Star Wars.
I would kill to have a Darth Bane movie trilogy or two movies based on Revan. There’s even a Star Wars zombie book they could have turned into a movie at the height of the zombie media craze for crying out loud.
Horribly, horribly mismanaged.
Two zombie books, one set during the Old Republic and then another set during the Imperial era. Both are pretty solid, though I’d give the crown to death troopers since I get some real Dead Space vibes from it.
It is like she is saying filming Lord of the Rings was hard because there were no books to start from.
Philomena Cunk on video games
You kinda undercut your point when you say that the most famous video game of all time was released aover a decade before it actually was. . .
Which is?
The point or the game?
the most famous video game of all time
Doom? Pacman?
movies and tv shows are pretty simple – you had charlie chaplin and leave it to beaver and then the last of us on HBO.
i have a private school/ivy league education in film theory btw. i’m short for time, so excuse the grammer.
Is that a real quote?
if you don’t think so, spend the two seconds it takes to search it out yourself
Nope doesn’t look like it, looks like it was someone being gamergate about videogames
The absence of evidence is no evidence of absence
It is however the absence of reason to assume it’s factual
In this case though this is real. Where it might have been said to not be real is the quote is often attributed to the director of the game, where as it was actually said by the screen writer of the show.
Alright, Gin Rummy
There are actually very few games overall where you jump on enemies.
Assassin creed series
Church climbing simulator?
this is the real reason why the people of lemmy hate the industry
The Last of Us what the first game yo could play without quarters? I had no idea. That’s pretty incredible.
That’s right because playing Dark Souls, I had to insert my sanity in the coin slot every time I died and it said Thanks Obama.
Wonderful mod, that one

Ah yes the torture boss fight.
At least on the first time or two.



















