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There exists .jif files and .gif files. That’s pretty much my entire argument on the subject. If you say “jif” I will assume you mean a .jif.
This is indisputable
That guns got Sandevistan?
Jraphics Interchange Format
It’s better than JPhEG
The optimal format for interchanging 256-colour palletised animated images of giraffes.
It’s pronounced guiraffes.
That would be a gift.
The pronunciation of an anagram’s component words has no bearing on the anagram’s pronunciation.
Why not?
I think that question is best posed to the Joint Photographic Experts Group, better known as “jay-fegg”.
(For the record, I’m in camp “G as in Graphic”, but it’s still true that an acronym’s source words don’t dictate the pronunciation.)
Right, in cases where an acronym is pronounced as word it generally follows the normal convention of the letters that form the word. Which would STILL result in the same pronunciation as “g” in graphics or gun.
Of course accepted convention and tradition can also matter. If a word is generally pronounced a certain way then that is how its pronounced. Which of course STILL gives us the soft G.
Right, in cases where an acronym is pronounced as word it generally follows the normal convention of the letters that form the word.
Meanwhile, the GNU Project calls itself “guh-nu” and then chooses a gnu (“nu”) as its mascot.
Which would STILL result in the same pronunciation as “g” in
graphicsgiraffe orgungin.FTFY
Team Giraffe all day everyday
They dont absolutely define it, but they certainly contribute. Assuming one or the other as sole definer seems silly.
Except they don’t. The vast majority of acronyms have at least one letter that’s pronounced differently than in the word it’s representing. Any correlation is purely coincidental.
So occasionally one letter doesnt fit with the rest… doesnt that mean that the rule is not absolute and my statement is correct? That often the originating phrase contributes and often it does not, and that neither is exclusive to the other?
So what you’re saying is, it has no bearing on it
NASA and LASER would like a word.
wait hang on… nasa works. laser is more iffy.
If you’re pronouncing NASA and Aeronautics the same way you’re definitely saying one of them wrong.
What’s wrong with NÆSA?
it’s a very subtle difference, if you don’t count the /æ/ diphthong. i think i could get away with it.
Congratulations on proving it’s pronounces /jiff/
joint pottographics interchange group
Technically the original JPEG container format is “JIF”, throwing another wildcard into the mix.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG_File_Interchange_Format
The base specifications for a JPEG container format are defined in Annex B of the JPEG standard, known as JPEG Interchange Format (JIF).
pronounced “jay-if”, naturally
Jay-fog is going to be my new
That said it’s still gif (not jiff).
i like how my intentionally shitty spelling of “photographic” has made my unintentional use of the word “interchange” instead of “exchange” fly under the radar.
jfig.
And autocorrect ruined my joke too, it was supposed to be Jay-feg.
MySQL would love this kind of recognition, instead it just gets turned into "My"SQL.
for those who don’t know, the y is pronounced like in “candy”. it’s named after the creator’s daughter, just like the successor project mariadb.
Mysqueel sounds good though
My Sequel has always been my preference.
Once and for all, its pronounced “gif”, let this end all the back and forth.
Thank you for resolving this debate so resolutely
Every day we stray further from Jod.
“Jod is dead.”
Freedrich Kneetzchuh
My coworker used “jif” the other day, and man… Did I just like immediately lose respect for her.
I didn’t even know I cared, and I didn’t say anything… But like, wtf? Lol
The creator of the format says Jif. I’m not saying that makes it right, but would you lose respect for him hearing him refer to the thing he made the way he named it?
Yes
Oh jod
Oh! My client doesn’t animate it if I tap for full image, so I didn’t realize it was a jif.
Oh no, what are you going to do? Send me to gaol?
Jesse Faden would manage it just fine.
I’ve never heard of Gesse Faden.
She is the queen of the Oldest House.
He loved nothing more than jivving jifts to his wife and family at Christmas.
Afterward he would sip a gin and tonic while reading about giant giraffes. Absolutely gigantic. Ginormous even. It would always send him into a fit of raging laughter.
Charging.
Not one of those has F or V as the third letter. Name an English word that starts “gif-” or “giv-” where the g is soft. I’ll wait.
I’d like you to point at the rule that’s says G MUST be a hard consonant if F comes after I. You can just say you prefer it for arbitrary reasons instead of trying to justify it with nonsense, especially with 99% evidence for that claim would be different forms of the word “gift”. :P
The point is that there is absolutely no precedent for a soft G in that situation. The question is “Would you say that it was pronounced “jif” if the creator hadn’t said it was pronounced that way?”, and you’d have to look at what already exists in English and conclude that, no, you wouldn’t pronounce it that way.
For comparison, look at the number of people who pronounce “gibs” with a hard g when it’s derived from “giblets” which isn’t. There’s clearly some kind of rule being followed here, even if it hasn’t been strictly codified anywhere.
It could also be that the most commonly used reference point is gift. That doesn’t make it a rule, that makes it a reasonable assumption and it would be just as reasonable if your reference point was giraffe. What I’m saying is the only people who are wrong are the people that insist that they are the only correct ones.
I have to disagree with the idea that “giraffe” is equally reasonable as a reference. Yes, it has an F in it, but it’s not exactly the third letter, is it?
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Actually he was not married at the time, making her his jirlfriend
Who the hell says “Jif?” Jif is a god damned penut butter.
I worked with a guy who said jif instead of gif. I stopped talking to him about memes.
Who the hell says “Jif?” Jiff is a god damned penut butter.
The creators of Jif call it Jif, and they’re clearly authoritative!
Until 2016, Jiff had 2 f’s.
Harambe Mandela Bad Timeline strikes again!
I say it that way. It comes from reading a article about the brand new graphics format with a included pronunciation., You write/invent it and you get to decide. Not a whole bunch of late comers who weren’t even a gleam in their daddies eye when it was developed.
I don’t care if he invented it, he’s saying it wrong.
Only morons call it “Jif.” That’s stupid.Hahahahaha. Look in the mirror. How do you say Giraffe? lol.
Don’t care.
I am right and everyone else is wrong.Good for you ride it down in flames.
Oh and that down vote wasn’t me.
I will die on this hill until the day I actually die.
I get it. Lots of people die wrong.
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I don’t animate with American brand peanutbutter.
How do you pronounce gibbet?
I assume “Jib-bay” because it is french
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With my tongue
So you’re saying the ‘t’ at the end of the word ‘gift’ modifies the ‘g’ sound?
Not in _G_eneral, no.
How about we stop policing the pronunciation and use of specific words as a way to feel like we have control over the lack of effective communication elsewhere in our lives?
If it works to get the listener to know what you are talking about? Then what is the issue?
You say jif don’t you.
You want an answer for you to judge me by?
Don’t care for the argument just what group I belong to, so you can tell if I’m right or wrong already. Lazy.
My problem is that we already have a word jiff, meaning a short amount of time. The overlap in use is minimal, but why add ambiguity.
And don’t get me started on to, too, and two.
Their, there, they’re.
Its ok that you can’t tell those words apart.But also don’t ask people to not do what you can’t understand? Or do people in wheelchairs boo at the Olympics?
Eye think my point is two reduce ambiguity is a good thing.
