• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    The funniest part about calling Lake Ontario “Lake America” is that Canada didn’t even name the damn thing.

    The name Ontario comes from an Indigenous/Iroquoian name that predates both the United States and Canada by centuries. In fact, the province of Ontario was named after the lake, not the other way around.

    So we’re essentially renaming an Indigenous-named international lake because we’re mad at Canada, despite Canada having nothing to do with its original name.

    That’s some truly impressive historical illiteracy. “Lake America” sounds less like a geographical renaming and more like a toddler putting their name on someone else’s toy because they’re pissed off at them.

    • phx@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      And the toddler is pissed off at them because they wouldn’t let him shit in their sandbox…

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    10 days ago

    Just go to therapy, my guy. Arbitrarily naming bodies of water that nobody outside your country will use will not fill the hole in you.

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      10 days ago

      I mean just the fact he’s so stupid he can’t pull something from history to make a point. Shit sounds like when you ask toddlers what to name things, “what do you want to call the dog in the backyard?” “Backyard dog!”

      • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
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        This is from the 90s.

        He was always dumb as a sack of dildos.

        "Business started from the day one, from early in the, in the world.

        Many many many many years ago, a hundreds of millions of years ago people were doing business and they were trading in rocks and stones and other things"

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lau6sqyRku0

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      11 days ago

      Wonder not:

      https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/lake-ontario-lake-america/146975

      Basically, OSM is a database containing points, paths, and polygons.

      Each item can have any number of fields. Obvious ones like lat and lon, and specific ones like speed limit or entry fee.

      An item can have many names, and its up to the renderer to choose which to show a user, or whether to show any.

      The locale specific name for the US will change whenever the US govt department adopts the new name.

      The general, most commonly used name will be lake Ontario until the most common make for the lake is lake America, which is unlikely to be ever.

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        11 days ago

        Until a renderer uses it—which currently isn’t the case—nobody will see it. At least not on a map. The reasoning here is mostly to still have it searchable under that name.

        ETA: See its wiki entry, specifically this part:

        So basically the name is added somewhere so it is searchable but never displayed

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          I’m not sure about that “currently not the case”.

          I mean you can download the data from OSM, open it in QGIS, and make a custom map of your city. You could use whatever locale you wanted for names.

          My point is, any assertion that it’s not used by a renderer is false, because someone will inevitably use it

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    11 days ago

    They should rename every lake to “Lake America”. And replace hard words Trump struggles with to Trump.

    Like positive. Or negative. Or vaccination.

    altr

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    11 days ago

    At this point I’m just excited to see what stupid thing he comes up with next. “From now on, we will not call them North America and South America. We will call them Free America and Not America”.

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    11 days ago

    Gulf of America, Lake America, how long will it be until they rename the Rio Grande the “River America” and the Atlantic the “America Ocean”?

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        11 days ago

        He already said he’s considering renaming the Atlantic or the Pacific into ‘American Ocean’

        I guess we’ll find out if he’s more mad about ‘Chyna’ or ‘Yurop’ soon. ‘North American Treaty Organization’…

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            America is just the feminised version of Amerigo (from Amerigo Vespucci, the namesake of the continents)

            So, he’ll rename it ‘United States of Donald’, since feminisation of names is ‘woke’ and it should obviously be named after him, not some washed up Italian explorer.

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          He’s just gonna rename both Atlantic and Pacific to American Ocean and everyone be confused. Also every lake of the great lakes will be renamed Lake of America so that the shorthand is an appropriate AAAAA!

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            Well, they are connected, so it’s really just one big lake with stages. So he’ll remain the whole thing to the Big Great Lake of America

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              I mean technically the oceans (and all the major rivers) are connected too, so he can rename all rivers to ‘The Greatest American River’ and all oceans to "The biggliest American Ocean’

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      Well, sorta?

      The name was changed for US users, as google’s policy is to use whatever a user’s country’s official name for something is (also true for where borders are drawn and so on). In mexico (and presumably every other country), it’s still “Golfo de México”. I don’t know if they’ll change Lake Ontario to whatever it was trump did but it would surprise me if they didn’t, and just as with the Gulf it’s going to only be americans that are impacted & everyone else will be continuing to ignore his nonsense.

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          Same thing in Spain. Kind of disgusting they’re forcing it on everyone.

          CoMaps still shows the proper name (Gulf of Mexico), and no mention of the Gulf of America, so that’s another easy win for OSM and CoMaps

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              Oh that’s an interesting question. Could be different. But no, just checked for French. It displays the same thing in both English and French

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                So weird, I wonder why it wasn’t doing that in arabic. God it’s not enough google is evil, they have to be obtuse about their shit while they do it.

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        10 days ago

        It’s not officially the Gulf of America in the US. The President can’t just arbitrarily rename shit.

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          In the US, the maintaining authority on references for geographic features is the Bureau of Geographic Names. It’s a federal agency operating under the secretary of the interior - and unfortunately, the president does have the unilateral authority direct them to change official names (in theory he can’t change it for internal political reasons - declaring something the “Barack Obama memorial dick-shaped rock” or whatever - but I don’t know if that has ever been ruled on)

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            There’s a public process the agency is required to go through for changing names of places. Trump bypassed that and had the USGS update the GNIS with the name change through an Executive Order and not through the BGN. When called out on it they tried to get it through Congress, but the Senate didn’t approve the name change.

            It isn’t the Gulf of America.

            The board actually did vote on the name in 2006, but rejected it.