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This comment section sucks lol I don’t even know where to begin.
This place is getting more Reddity every day.
A car is needed for all in the USA. A Camera is not. The uber driver has two jobs while the photographer also has two jobs. My mind is blown. Couples please share your shots so I can take dumps. Maybe you like dumps. It is what it is. Enjoy your slop you little piggies.
Only 5k? Sound like a hobby, because most professional photographers have a body that is already 5k by itself, plus several lenses ranging between 2 and 20k. I mean, I’m a hobby photographer and my gear already exceeds at least 8k. So stop bitching Karen.
All of your silly little lives are hobbies. Peasants… fuck your wedding hahahaha. Stupid idiots don’t get it. You eventually will. I Quit… Here’s Why the Technician Shortage Is Getting Worse
Nobody is going to watch your youtube video, just type the relevant info.
Thats nearly as obnoxious as dumping AI slop into a discussion.
I don’t disagree with the notion, but phrased like this it’s kind of like trolling/clickbait - getting people to engage regardless of what they’re saying.
I work in disability. The act of driving is not considered a skill. Photography is.
I shoot with a refurbished $600 Canon EOS Rebel T7. I use two lenses for the majority of my work: an 18-55mm, and a 75-300mm.
Fite me irl, Nat, my shit’s gorgeous and I know it.
Those are really nice! I especially like in the first one how you captured the city lights on the water and filled in that potential darker space on the left with the bridge span.
Of course, there’s scenic photography, which is basically having really good composition skills, knowing good locations, and timing, and then there’s people photography, which is… extra. I don’t blame photographers for charging more for that shit lol
‘I want our wedding photos to be the two of us on a cliff at the beach at sunset with really pretty clouds behind us!’ And you’re thinking, okay, drive time, waiting for a good colorful sunset instead of a cloudless or too cloudy or foggy one (always a fun game of roll-the-dice in Oregon at least), and they want their backs to the sunset, so that’s extra lighting (that you’ll have to carry to the location) and extra time in photoshop to be sure you can still see their faces clearly…
Yeah, I don’t do people cause they’re hard to look at, what with the brain damage and all, so scenery’s more of my thing. Scenery doesn’t stay put, but it’s a hell of a lot less wiggly than people.
And I mean, I’ve never seen the Oregon Coast look bad, you just have to take what it gives you when you show up, no expectations.
Fuuuuck, I think I’ve gotta go there this weekend, just to get out of town.
how do you white balance your shots/ seems overly sepia
It’s a preference. I’m biased away from cool light as a person, and like my work to be a bit warmer.
I turn off QRedShift when I’m working, then I ultimately end up re-creating it by hand, cause I’m just like that.
Nice shots but if you’re wanting gorgeous candid shots of fast moving action (like weddings/events), you’re gonna struggle without the expensive glass/body.
I’ve got a nifty fifty which can open to 1.6, and that’s pretty good for getting as fast as 1/250th in dim light, and I got it for free! :D
Catch is, the zoom controls are at the bottom, on my feet.
you don’t zoom with your feet. that is how you change perspective, and it is not the same as zooming. serious hobby photographer should understand the difference.
Lemme use my cute euphemisms.
Alternatively: drat, you got me, I’m not a hobby photographer, I’m just a lesbian with a camera.
Alternatively: drat, you got me, am I still approved by the board you’re on to take pictures of cool things, or should I turn my kit in?
Alternatively and truly: what is the point of the tone you’re using in the last sentence? You’re not aiming to shame me out of taking and making photographs, are you? Even if you don’t want to call them art, I’m still using a camera to capture visuals that I enjoy to a file, and adjusting them to my heart’s content. And what if I don’t really understand your definition of perspective vs. zoom? English is a second language for me!
Alternative and deeply truly, in my bones: who the fuck are you? Let’s see some of your damn portfolio.
(And yes, I downvoted myself to save you the damn click, cause let’s be real, you’re not gonna reply, you’re gonna downvote and move on.)
Alternative and deeply truly, in my bones: who the fuck are you? Let’s see some of your damn portfolio.
i am someone pointing your attention to the fact that you don’t zoom with your feet. i assume you did not know that, because why would you say that otherwise, so now you know something you didn’t before and you can think about how to apply that knowledge to your pictures of cool things. i don’t really need to present my portfolio for that.
And yes, I downvoted myself to save you the damn click,
you seem to have forgotten to do that. what is the point of making such bizarre performative claim when you don’t even follow through?
if simple comment sends you into such tailspin, maybe public discussion is not for you…
Fair. Sorry for being an asshole.
Zooming with your feet (and switching primes) is part and parcel to events photography. If I see a zoom lens at a wedding I will judge the photographer.
Hey man, I support your hobby, but uh, this is embarrassing to boast about. Be humble, you’re an amateur and that’s okay.
Seriously, I don’t care if you’re Gregory fucking Crewdson, you do not say that shit to aspiring artists.
Cultivate us goddammit.
DO NOT DEMORALIZE PEOPLE OUT OF THIS FIELD.
Too late…I used to get covers and was all city. Saw my work in the paper and every news stand. Didn’t matter… I gave up on it a long time ago. Most slobs just want porn, piggy slop and you know what I don’t care anymore. Shoot your own damn photos, fix your own $8000 bicycle and fix your own damn car. Fucking twats I hope this slob ass nation is nuked into oblivion. and I mean that. Their little meaningless lives and their own self perception blinds them into thinking they are somehow important. What good is a doctor if no one can afford it. What good is a lawyer if no one can afford it. Don’t get me started on these marketurds and office chimps. I kinda enjoyed when all the middle manager gen X’ers lost their jobs to AI. The great equaliser. 👍️. More layoffs to come. These assholes will be wiped out.
PS the paper I worked for the owner thought I wasn’t worth making full time. He got caught selling drugs went to jail and the paper went belly up. He never showed his face around town after that… then after jail worked at a hotel at the desk after that🙂 humbled you could say. Fuck everybody and this whole gawd damn world. All these little piggies. OINK OINK OINK Fuck these boomers.
All the “successful” photographers I knew were boomers about to retire and scam artist. Fuck the arts forever I just pray for nukes. Support small business bla bla bla capitalism gonna capitalise on you damn ass real soon if it hasn’t already.
Where’s your portfolio?
They’re not even out here identifiably.
I’m out here with my legal name up front, making art that I like, and being really, really proud of it.
I, uh, don’t have a website though, just a Pixelfed account that I update with new work fairly often.
I’m gonna start posting more work, not just because I like the work I post, but now with an added layer of spite! (Nothing functionally will change except my spirits will continue to be undampened, despite their recent attempts at doing so.)
Hey, you might want to reset the password on your account, someone used it to post something absolutely idiotic under your username. Just letting you know, so that you get this sorted out.
Yeah but for all we know she’s a wedding photographer, photographs wildlife or something uncooperative, unlike a bridge which tends to sit still most of the time.
Man, I wish bridges sat still. Shit bounces.
That said, wedding wildlife does sound notoriously uncooperative; trying to get a bridal veil on a rhino sounds, well, difficult.
Not every gig is gonna earn you the cost of that camera. And it doesn’t need to.
tbf I doubt many Uber drivers actually profit, especially the ones driving $40k cars
On the Uber and transport topic, I sometimes get to ride the light rail and I have to drive to the park n ride to leave my car and ride the rail.
The trip from my home to the park n ride is a quick 10 to 15 minutes by car. By bus it’s 1 to 2 hours. By foot it’s probably a few days.
The light rail takes me 30 minutes from north king county to Seattle downtown. If I drove there it would take an hour of mostly just sitting in traffic.
Progress is slow but if there was a light rail from bothell to Kenmore to the I-5 corridor, that would basically eliminate my need for a 40 to $90 Uber. We only pay that if we a traveling. That way we get a car from our house to the link and then easy 30 minutes to the airport.
The whole Uber thing is great unless there are only a few riders or a few drivers. Plus the cut that goes to Uber is probably stifling innovation. I recall that there’s an open-source Uber system called…
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light rail from bothell to Kenmore to the I-5 corridor
that’ll be st12? 15? lol.
after the excavate under the mountain of queen anne to connect ballard…
honestly the real solution is to move out of the sticks, or stop working in downtown.
At my house there are no buses. There are no light rails. There are no sidewalks, no bike lanes. You can walk in the easement of people’s front yards but it’s mostly a ditch, full of water when it’s raining. I live inside the loop highway that runs around my 2+ million population city. Cars are the only option, even most of the homeless have cars here.
sounds like a real shithole. texas?
could be anywhere, usa
a quick 10 to 15 minutes by car. […] By foot it’s probably a few days.
Just as a raw ballpark estimate. By car could be 50km/h on average, with a walking speed of roughly 5km/h, that’s 10x the time it takes by car, i.e. 2-3 hours.
A few days usually takes you trough a few adjacent townships. Do you have to take a humongous detour on foot?
just hypothesizing but: the part of the burbs they’re traversing doesn’t have much in the way of sidewalks along the highways, forcing detours along the local trails like the burke gilman.
Or they are so weak they can only walk 30 minutes per day and had to rest until the next day
5km/h is also faster than average walk that is probably not a pace you’d maintain for hours? After considering you also need to stop on intersection you may be getting the average down to less than 4, but then if it’s actually a 10 minute ride you’d probably also spend enough time in stop lights and your average speed would also be way lower than 50km/h
5km/h is on the low end of the “average” walking speed but waiting at intersections and lights will murder that speed. You could easily be on the upper end of six and then have to wait 5+ minutes at an intersection, bringing you back below a 5.
don’t cars usually go at least 65mph?
Tops. Waiting at intersections, slowing down for other traffic situations and driving on roads with a lower speed limit drags down that average, as others have mentioned with regards to walking.
Just cause you wasted money on unnecessarily expensive equipment doesn’t mean anyone owes you fucking anything lol
It is a hobby
Get over yourself
Unless you are paying your bills with your fucking pictures
I absolutely consider photography an art form!
However the amount of "photographers” who are in love with smell of their own farts is unfathomable.
They’ll be take shitty black and white pictures of like… a fucking chair on their porch, and act like it belongs in The Lourve. It’s absurd.
Dear “photographers:”
You’re not special for picking the easiest way to make art, blowing a shitload of money on the camera and then whining no one wants to help subsidize your “passion”
You’re just some prick who spent too much money on a camera
Boo fucking hoo, that camera is paid for after 17-50 jobs depending on cost. Get fucked Nat, hope you drop it while whining about job prices .
I think we paid like 2500 for our wedding photographer. Worth it I guess they were pretty good photos, and because she was one of the well known ones we were local celebrities for the day.
I have known people have entire weddings for less than that
I’m factoring in the cost of her helicopter seat aswell. Overall we spent 10k including the cottage we stayed at for the week. I’m still paying it off 🤣
we flew to a tiny little island off the coast far away from anyone and anything. One that doesn’t even have a name but is just included in a group of rocky islands. The backdrop puts Hawaii to shame. We did the ceremony there with waves breaking in the background on another island, legit looked like they were a hundred feet high. We then flew to a Jurassic park lookin waterfall and legit had a JP moment landing on this tiny bit of gravel with the tail over the water. We got some amazing photos.
Advertising yourself as:
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Bad at internal budgeting
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Full of yourself
… is a bold marketing strategy during an economic depression, for a freelance/contract worker.
Best of luck Nat.
… is a bold marketing strategy during an economic depression
Never undersell the possibility that this person is lying.
Or that this is a stock photo and the text is clickbait.
Apparently her name is actually Kortney. But reality doesn’t matter when a bunch of redditors get together to hate a woman
It is. Last time I saw thisnpost, the photographer was different.
I mean she’s got a point. I used to do web design and the number of people who reckoned that it should cost the equivalent of $40 was ridiculous. I’d required at least 10 times that just as compensation from having to work with shopify.
… did you market yourself as a stuck up prick who can’t budget well?
Or did you maybe save that for some stage of contract negotiations?
There are ways to dance the dance; hers seems to be the equivalent of loudly complain that no one is picking her to dance with because no one can afford her.
Just not a good strategy.
Well I certainly found it was a good idea to not keep the customer in the dark about my prices. If I’m going to be expensive I might as well tell them outright, it’s not like I’m going to get more customers if I led them on.
Price transparency != Marketing strategy.
One of the main reasons I got into hardware is because there’s an inherent bias that digital things have no intrinsic value.
Like, you might expect a calculator app to be free, but nobody expects a calculator to be free.
When doing websites. I always told people upfront, you can do it cheap, fast, or good. Pick two because all three doesn’t exist.
I’ve stopped asking people this. They ALWAYS pick cheap and good because fast is an unknown variable to them.
Well technically you can have all three be met at the same time.
The omly question you have to ask yourself is ‘Are you as happy of the idea of slavery as most other capitalists are?’
as long as it’s at least an ocean away it fine™
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SaaS (slavery as a service)
This is really taking a pretty harmless comment too seriously. The point is shit is expensive and clients want everything cheap. Any freelancer can relate to this particular framing. I used to have people want $300 websites and they didn’t care that it would take potentially a week to build their site. Surely just abstractly we can all relate to shit being expensive though?
Don’t you dare question Nat of “Insert Last Name Photography” of being bad at marketing.
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Natalie is dumb because you can just rent the expensive camera for $100 to $300 dollars a day while not being a conceited, capitalist pos.
Actually it’s prolly cheaper than that.
You may have bought an expensive camera, and spent a good amount of time honing your skills, that doesn’t mean I’m paying you $6000 for 3 days of work.
You are not the target client for that rate then.
Really depends though.
I do photography as a salaried employee with my personal $5k camera, so my paycheck is technically what I’m paid. But I do a lot more than just photos and videos.
When I do side jobs, I don’t charge much. Corporate headshots for example are about $100 per person or $300 for a certain amount of time for everyone on the same day. So depends how much of a pain in the ass they’ll be, lot more work to setup multiple times and try to match looks over long stretches of time.
But I base that on who I’m doing them for and how picky they’ll be about it.
I have worked with scheduling photographers by the hour, photo journalists, not your wedding/graduation people. I’ve booked shoots all over the US and it’s regional and based on demand/completion in that area. So someone can cost $1,000 for 2-hours on-site in Boston and someone can cost $400 for 2-hours in middle nowhere Kansas.
when i was shooting professionally, I had a flat hourly rate, with a price package for weddings/engagement photos.
wedding tax is across all fields and the engagement shots take a lot of planning and less actual shoot time. Other than those, I billed by he hour, like any skilled laborer
