Probably just data mining

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      what makeup specifically?

      certain kinds of makeup are more normalized than others.

      and plenty of men already are wearing it, you just don’t notice because it’s not obvious. just like with women who wear it but people think they are ‘natural’.

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        just the usual female makeup idk. concealer and stuff

        also i didnt know that plenty of men already wear it, thats great to hear. although i imagine it’s still perceived as weird if you make it a lot more obvious than that :<

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          depends on what your goals are. i think it’s weird af, but i’m not a vain person who goes around judging other’s looks and worrying about my own. for some people, that’s all there is in life. i think anyone who uses make up is not someone I really want to be close with and i find my partners mroe attractive when they are no make up and wearing sweatpants than i ever have when they are dressed up and do up their hair and put on makeup. I honestly don’t really enjoy it, but I pretend to for their sake because most women seem addicted to the notion that they are ‘ugly’ if they are wearing nice fashionable clothes and makeup.

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        i like to think that jd vance is secretly woke but hes in a relationship with peter thiel and hes just doing what thiel wants him to do cuz he loves him so very much

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      I’d imagine not very, also it’s kind of gross in a hard to quantify way, at lest hard for me.

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        Gross in the this makes me insecure because I use makeup to hide my imperfections and compete socially kind of way?

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          Gross as in, you’re changing the face that someone is presenting to the world, because you think you know better than they do how they should present themselves.

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            What the fuck? Are you saying the app like sends the result to the person, and says SEE?!? I think it just shows the user a picture, tbh. But yeah it’s probably not super accurate anyway.

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            Who is better suited to know how someone can better present themselves than those having the experience of being presented to?

            Maybe that doesn’t help you at work, or competing with the other girls, or manipulating people, or avoiding being gossiped about, or managing your self-hatred over how you naturally look.

            But it still might be true for the person changing the presentation to better appeal to their preferences.

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              Who better? Anyone who is not you, because anyone else would know not to say anything because nothing needs to be said.

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                Unfortunately, life involves a considerable amount of want, as well. Why does it bother you so much to know someone doesn’t find you to be a pleasant experience?

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              So if I go out wearing a Star Trek and encounter someone who wants to meet a Star Wars fan, then I’m in the wrong for choosing that shirt?

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                You’re not wrong, you’re simply not what they prefered. If you were, then they would have had a better experience. Why did being right or wrong enter the conversation?

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                  So they would have a better experience encountering a Star Trek fan posing as a Star Wars fan?

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      Accurate? Like, seriously, it’s clearly a degenerative generative AI tool, it’s literally imagining things the way its designer would probably approve, and you turn it into sick advocacy of misogynist people bitching about body art? I’m leaving your comments as they are, as a testament to how sick this is, but please do reconsider your world view, you seem to be more than capable of that.

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    “Man develops app to put pre-made filter on top of women photo to match developer’s opinions based on too much of JoeRogan and other such podcasts”

    I never thought that journalism in 2026 could match back side of my comic book mag from 2006…

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    Makeup is art, and the face is a canvas. The only time when it isn’t okay is when it becomes an expectation rather than something done freely.

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    Now do this for guys and their penis size based on what they drive, wear, hairstyle, and what cologne they wear

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    I don’t even bother with dating profiles where every single photo has a filter on it. It’s anyone’s guess what the person actually looks like.

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    Drop the “usually”

    Very much still a boy if you don’t know this

    Some guys sadly never reach the requisite level of maturity to graduate to manhood.

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      What? Men should know makeup alters your appearance, but how is one supposed to divine how much? Some people are naturally attractive or use less than others. Some people can look drastically different with clever techniques. Some use a ton, that’s not apparent in photos.

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        I don’t think anyone is suggesting that you should be able to work it out in your head for every single woman you see, but that makeup actually doing the thing it exists to do shouldn’t be this massive shock to anyone who has any close relationships with women in their normal lives. Acting like this app is some big gotcha moment as it’s portrayed is maybe one smidge better than being shocked to find out on your 30th birthday that women poop.

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        Hello, I’m an actual man

        The only ones excluding guys that can’t treat women as people are the guys themselves. These really are pretty basic concepts

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          Who apparently shares much in common with bitter women. It also se that somehow, trying to deny people their gender identity is totally treating them as people…

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            Dude, this is a discussion about how ignorant guys should not be shocked by what women actually look like.

            And how it’s kinda a baseline piece of becoming a mature, well rounded person

            bitter women

            Are you intentionally telling on yourself, or…?

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              Seems like it was a conversation about attacking men who don’t do what you want by calling them children. But hey, maybe I misunderstood the first post.

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      Yeah lol I’d say most men have seen at least a couple women without makeup. Like if nothing else moms/aunts/sisters/cousins, if not friends/intimate partners (if they’re attracted to/date women on the latter point)

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    usually know what?

    edit: … the headline has removed ‘without makeup’

    very funny

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    Modern make up sucks. Used to, women put on lots of make up to look all glamorous and sexy. Now they put on lots of make up to look like a Quake map.

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        If you think that’s sexy. You’ll jizz your pants playing Hrot. That game is a masterwork in using shades of brown. It’s also probably the best of the new boomershooters.

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        Quake maps are famous for being primarily shades of brown. The make up is just shades of brown like Quake maps.

        Ever since the Kardashians became famous, women tend to imitate this look when they want to look glamorous. I’ve never been a fan of that style of make up. I especially raise an eyebrow when white women do it because it kinda seems like brown face to me.

        When my woman gets all dolled up, I want her looking like Dr. Frank-N-furter.

  • “man develops app to discover women are cute without makeup, more at 11”

    Any man that whines about women wearing makeup in any way is just signaling to everyone he’s a waste of their time.

      • You seriously need to stop following me. Imagine having the gall to tell a woman to calm down while talking about men being shitty about women seeing makeup. Fuck all the way off.

        Edit: meh. Blocked

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          The gall? The gall to expect others to never have an opinion you don’t agree with and if they do? BLOCK THEM! Like a child putting their finger in their ears. I look forward to the inevitable block. It will let us converse about you in peace, without you knowing about it. Kind of like that Tea app.

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                It was December, 2038. The girl soul crushing worldview of boys bad has caused unspeakable horrors. Two months ago they attacked the boy-grain, or boain for short. Without those food supplies our boy population will not be able to sustain itself. It is a grim time ahead for boys. If only the girls were not so cruel.

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        Sharing your opinions of how others chose to dress or act is weird unless you are doing it to influence others. Trying to influence people by belittling them is rude.

        You could be saying it about how someone dresses, or dances, or what bike they chose to ride.

        It is unfortunate that men belittling women about their makeup is so pervasive in our culture that after at least three generations of people highlighting how hurtful it is, people still think their right to state their opinion of random people is more important than people’s right to go through their day without being accosted.

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          Just to point out, women also belittle other women for their make up choices. And even do so more frequently than men. By a lot.

          Its one of the single most common results any time research looks into the topic. Women almost exclusively attack other women for their looks at rates higher than men in every culture iv ever seen research on the topic in.

          This is generally true of any hobby or activity that’s gendered preferenced. Same sex hate in hobbies, appearance and other facteds of life is always an order of magnitude more common than cross sex hate.

          So while you not wrong that it’s a problem when men do it. Its a problem when anyone does it full stop. But your also being a raging fucking ignorant misandrist right now on top of it.

          Stop it. If your going to bitch about the endless soical problems humanity has. At least do so with out also being part of the problem please.

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            What do any of those things have to do with the conversation. They didnt understand why men sharing an opinion about women’s makeup was a problem. I explained my view of it.

            Life is unfair and people can be mean isn’t a justification its just whataboutism cope. Rather than actually letting people consider that maybe their behavior has hurt people you are helping them justify it because people maybe somewhere other people were mean to some other person probably.

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          How common is it that random people just tell women on face these things? Asking out of genuine curiosity

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            It’s usually not complete strangers, but friends and partners: “you look better with less makeup”, “why are you wearing that?”, “see you look good without makeup!”, “are you OK, you look sick?”, “what’s wrong, are you sad?”

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          Genuine question. How thinking that your “default” face looks much cuter than covering it with some products is belittling?

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            The same way someone saying that you would look better without glasses, or would look better with short hair, or would look better if you worked out more is all belittling.

            You are trivializing the choices or non choices a person made. You are implying that the way a person looks is in some way wrong or could be better, that they are less than.

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            You really aren’t getting it eh? People are literally spelling it out for you and you’re still completely dodging the point.

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              I just don’t agree with it. People experience others and have every right to share how they experience the world around them, even if that hurts someone’s feelings. No one has a right to never hear an opinion that makes them feel bad. You’re not children, you’re adults.

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            My experience is that you would come off as a lot more approachable online if you used less words. You might think that using all those words covers up your flaws but I think you could use a lot less words and be your authentic self and people would like being around you more.

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        God forbid a woman doesn’t want to hang out with you.

        (repeat for all women until no woman wants to hang out with you)

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            “I prefer it when you don’t shave your legs”. So? Keep it to yourself weirdo, I’m not doing it for you.

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              To a random person that makes sense … But like this is something partners typically express.

              Have you just never been in a healthy relationship where you can talk to your SO about their appearance and your preferences honestly?

              Being sexy for your partner requires you to actually understand their prefences and fetishes. So you can make appeals to them.

              There’s nothing wrong and if anything it’s highly unhealthy for the relationship to be scared to express your physical preferences. Its even worse if you are unable to accept the information openly.

              It sounds like you might just either have had horridly unhealthy experiences with men. Or are possibly just a narcissist. Depending on the context your speaking about.

              Seriously, a healthy relationship is foundationally built on understanding and part of that is knowing your partners perfences. It goes both ways.

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                You got me being a narcissist from just that?

                You wouldn’t find that comment really weird from anyone you’re not sexually involved with? Yeah obviously it’s different when it’s a partner, but that’s not what we’re talking about. Unsolicited advice on how I groom myself is creepy to me. I think you’d find it creepy too, which is why I tried to give a more relatable example. Evidently that makes me a narcissist, jesus. Can’t talk about anything.

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                  cant talk about anything

                  Yes look at op posting a generic preferemce amd youre in here taking it as a personal assault. Do better

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              Nobody is talking to you, though, or any specific woman, just women in general. That you equate 'I prefer women who shave their legs." with “Shave your legs, atomicrange!” shows some kind of thought pattern, for sure. Or maybe less thought and more feelings.

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                People do talk to individual specific women this way. That’s what we’re talking about.

                It’s not that you’re misunderstanding or being uncharitable or there’s a miscommunication, it’s because I’m not thinking, I’m just a dumb woman only feelings no thoughts head empty. Thanks for the valuable discussion, love trying to give a perspective and being met with condescension.

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                  That may be what you have reduced the discussion to, a personal experience, but the op comment spoke generally, not specifically, as did I. So we are not talking about the same thing. At what point did you start thinking specifically, and not generally?

                  If your beleifs don’t come from a well reasoned argument, from where else but feelings would your thoughts arise?

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          I wine when anyone wears it men or women. Make up just sucks and freaks me out on a fundamental level. Shit scares the actual fuck out of me.

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        Having a preference and whining are not the same thing.

        Things that are fine to say in relevant social contexts:

        • You look really cute without makeup.
        • I prefer lighter makeup.
        • I love heavy makeup looks.
        • I have sensory issues and can’t stand the smell of makeup at all.

        Things that are creepy to say in any context:

        • Women use makeup as a lie to trick men.
        • I want a traditional woman who doesn’t paint her face like a clown.
        • I don’t know how she expects to attract a man when she’s not even putting in any effort to do basic makeup.
        • I bet she’s really ugly without all that makeup.
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          Personally I find all make be it on a woman or man. To be the single ugliest thing a person can do to them self. Its vile and revolting. It looks highly unnatural, and actively causes me stress some times and I have no idea why. It triggers my flight or fight response when someone has too much on and I can’t accurately make out their features.

          Perfume and Cologne is the same way. In my 30 years of life iv never found a single perfume or cologne be it on a man or woman. That did not actively make me gag and make my eyes water. I can frequently taste it on the air long long after many people can’t. Which I assume is part of the problem. I’m just hyper sensitive to almost all fragrances.

          90% of laundry detergent, soaps, and basically anything with a scent does exactly the same thing to me.

          Iv been yelled at for involuntarily gaging when women walk by me because I can so strongly taste their perfume.

          If I could I would out right ban all make up and scents. They are terrible things and from the outside looking in. They seem to do nothing but perpetuate a endless cycle of social abuse. People get judged for using them. For not using them. For using too much, or not enough.

          So far as I can tell there’s not a single good thing socially that has come from the invention of non medical cosmetics.

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            This is valid:

            It triggers my flight or fight response when someone has too much on and I can’t accurately make out their features.

            This is needlessly insulting:

            the single ugliest thing a person can do to them self. Its vile and revolting.

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            What stray said but also omg, please write more clearly. Write full sentences and don’t put random sentence breaks in places they don’t belong. I assume this is a second language issue and I apologize but it needs grammar work and as long as you’re being rude you can at least be easy to read.

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            I think if you can’t tell the two categories apart you should talk about it with a healthcare professional. I don’t know what it’s called in English, but there exists a type of therapy focused on teaching and developing skills that could be helpful.

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              Healthcare professionals don’t generally judge people to be whining. They try to listen and understand them. Which is hard to do if you dismiss people as whining because you lack the emotional intelligence to hear their grievances.