USdefaultism!
literally USdefaultism
YOUR* goverment
Ah yes the US is the only country that has a current or past track record with shady shit.
sure not the only one, but like, goverments usually try to have kids not die of malnutrition or whatever.
The British Empire has entered the chat
If they’re the right people.
Don’t forget Green Run.
Oh man, this brings back so many memories. Some of those aren’t even mine!
Username checks out.
You’re my favorite person on here.
Wanna know some state secrets?
Dude this isn’t war thunder. Keep it in your pants for at least fifteen minutes until you log in over there
I dunno, how much you asking? And will it give me leverage over the leadership of a 3rd world country?
Fifty acres and a mule. And only if my house is considered a third world country.
Deal! Hey, you ever thought about the prime minister of Malaysia at all? I had this Zoolander guy lined up but he flaked on me
I’m actually quite curious how the next false flag will be received
Don’t get it right too soon or people will call you a conspiracy theorist.
Remember, we don’t do that stuff anymore, it’s totally crazy to suggest that’s even a possibility. Wait 20 years, it’ll come out that we did, in fact, still do that stuff - but only back then. But by then we’ll have stopped and it’ll be totally crazy to suggest that’s even a possibility. Until you wait another 20 years.
Yeah that line on the CIAs website about how “this is no longer the views of the agency” or however they word it exactly cracks me up every time.
If it’s anything like the latest assassination “attempt” at Trump, with great skepticism.
Operation Windfall & Operation Pantomime
MOVE must be in another room.
Came to say the same
That was just a city not a federal thing counts separate like Gary webb
The FBI provided the Philadelphia Police the materials needed to make the bomb.
And web and Ross was CIA explicitly but it started in a muni court so counts different I don’t make the rules dude
I’m … going with the definition of ‘if federal agencies were involved, then federal agencies were involved’.
Like, using your logic, almost no Supreme Court ruling has ever been federal… because they almost all originated in a lower court.
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That never happened
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There’s no proof that happened
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It’s more complicated than you’re describing
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Those were just some bad actors
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Okay, but that was under the Other Party. My Party would never do that
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(Repeat 1. Thru 4.)
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Okay but we’re reforming now. You should give us some credit!
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It’s all in the past! Why do you keep bringing up Old Shit?!
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Whataboutism
why is my diary on the internet so publicly
This sounds like a modified Narcissist prayer.
I was unaware that there was an original one.
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I read about MK Ultra, and that is some weird, fucked up shit. Also, most of the records were destroyed, so who knows what else they got up to? Fucking monsters.
I didn’t remember exactly but also Japan has that unit 731 or whatever? That was insane as well.
Whatever happened to the guy in charge of that?
He prolly got fired.
Don’t look that up
Funny you say that, guess what happened after the war, when they were captured by the Americans?
Total immunity for all their war crimes, in exchange for their research. Apart from a handful who had vivisected American pilots, anyway, but the ones who experimented on Chinese victims got off scot free.
The US would go on to employ chemical and biological warfare extensively in Korea shortly after, as well as in Vietnam.
Yupp Operation paperclip I think was that one.
Should be listed in this meme too along with cointelpro
That’s fucking awful. What is wrong with people in power??
And the research amounted to “if you torture people enough they die”
Nearly every country has had or currently has some wildly shady shit going on.
Yes indeed. It’s almost as if power has the ability to corrupt and people aren’t all inherently good.
I mean I can only imagine what’s happening with Elon’s neuralink tests and trials with locations so close to some of the immigration concentration camps.
Its probably fine
As bad as people hate to admit it, this is pretty much the direct cause of anti vax people and shit like it.
The government pretty much created the problem itself by doing this stuff.
Wait until you hear about al Qaeda … And depending on how far back you want to go… 1980?
Let’s see… checks timeline: USA funds rebels (Al Qaeda). makes lots of pinky promises to said rebels with their fingers crossed behind their backs. and then when it was time to pay the bill and keep their promises… the USA said: “what promises, I never promised anything” while tossing the documents right in front of their puppets. cue pissed off Al Qaeda.
And now, we’ve got fifty shades of gray and the downfall of Ellen DeGeneres
Hey, check CIA-backed coups 40-80 years and how those countries turned out in the last 25 years
Henrietta Lacks
Lacks was the unwitting source of these cells from a tumor biopsied during her treatment for cervical cancer at the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland, in 1951. These cells were then cultured by George Otto Gey, who created the cell line known as HeLa, which is still used for medical research.[9] As was then the practice, no consent was required to culture the cells obtained from Lacks’s treatment. Neither she nor her family were compensated for the extraction or use of the HeLa cells.
That’s such a tricky one because unlike the other examples, this has benefited humanity. There’s no going back on it and until other cell lines are more common, we can’t really discontinue using the HeLa cells.
At the very least though, that whole family shouldn’t have to work a day in their lives from all the profits the private pharmaceutical have generated from it. If I was a part of that family, I’d demand a full ride scholarship from Johns Hopkins.
This is why black people don’t trust doctors.
antivax as a movement didnt come around until an asshole doctor lied about the safety of vaccines, to sell his own vaccine… and took off like a rocket when that miserable Jenny McCunthy decided it had to be vaccines, and not genetics, that caused her not to give birth to the perfect blond haired blue eyed child she deserved.
Narcissism and failed education leads to fascism. Who would of thought. The system we have congratulates assholery and abuse of power, so I’d say trust issues are expected.
Half of white medical trainees believe such myths as black people have thicker skin or less sensitive nerve endings than white people. An expert looks at how false notions and hidden biases fuel inadequate treatment of minorities’ pain.
…Oh that’s Melissa
There is much more than that. 9/11 is not even on this list and that was a huge wake up call for millions of people.
But yes, in general, all the lies are the reason why people dont trust governments or corporations and sometimes not funded scientific research either.
- Boarding Schools.
- Eugenics, including forced sterilization.
- Nuclear weapons.
- Internment of Japanese.
- Hiring of Nazis after WWII, after inspiring them before WWII.
the Chinese exclusion act
Hiring of Nazis after WWII, after inspiring them before WWII.
Don’t leave out Unit 731, where they did shit that would make the Nazi’s look like Jr high science experiments by comparison…who were given the exact same deals as Paperclipped Nazis
I never realized we hired those guys, too.
Indeed, all for medical science and biological warfare. The good old USA gave small pox blankets to the Native Americans, then there’s Operation Sea Spray, and now 45,000 croak directly from a piss poor healthcare system and 200,000 die from contributing factors. WTF kind of social experiment is that?
The US helped to found and popularize the Nazi party. Ford and other industrialist literally bank rolled the Nazi empire. Ford built factories in Germany and let them keep the profits. Nazism was very popular in the US because its policies were based off US policies.
Hitler was inspired by the way the US genocided the Native Americans. This is where the Holocaust came from. When Hitler initially decided to expel the Jews wealthy industrialists lobbied the US government not to take them in. They helped stroke anti-Jewish sentiment in Europe and ensured that no other country would take them in.
This lead to the final solution. IBM and other US companies gave material support to the Nazi. Those numbers tattooed on Jewish prisoners were from a census system IBM developed. Later, they used their computing power to figure out how many jews to ship from the ghettos to the death camps without backing anything up. Basically they handled the logistics of the Holocaust.
could you provide a source for all that? it sounds correct, but i never heard that side of the story before so i’d like to know more
Mostly stuff I have read thoroughout my life, but I think someone wrote a book about IBMs part.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
I think the Henry Ford stuff is verifiable on the Internet. You can also lookup pre WW2 Nazism in the US.
thank you! :)
Don’t forget that the US government gave Joseph Mengele a new identity. the Angel of Death… got a kiss on the lips, lots of money, and a good luck from America.
Reconstruction failure, Jim Crow institutionalized which was the ultimate inspiration for the Nazis to model their claimed superior race society after.
And afterwards, South Africa copied both their notes to build Apartheid.
Funny how all the major parks in US cities and highways just happen to always destroy a minority neighborhood.
Mkultra is STILL treated like some nut job conspiracy theory.
I bring it up as example of how the government will do whatever to whoever and lie for decades, fuck the consequences.
People look at me like I’m crazy, and plenty have even straight up told me mk ulta isn’t real, is just a conspiracy, just an excuse for hippies who did too many drugs, any number of “that didn’t happen” excuses. Including “if it actually happened, we would know”. To which I responded “THEY FUCKING ADMITTED IT” and that was the end of the conversation because I cursed and therefore lost an “argument” I didn’t know I was in…
Ohio is crazy…
McUltra ™️
it never happened because it never happened to them. so clearly it never happened.
So like, I’ve got one of those burned out hippies in my town. Who got burned out by mk ultra. And knows it. He’s a hoot and a half if you can keep him laughing. Shows up to all the concerts in town.
There’s nothing wrong with Ohio…except the snow and the rain.
I really like Drew Carey, and Id love to see the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
The Drew Carey Show is great, rrhof less so, and there are definitely problems in Ohio.
There’s nothing wrong with Ohio
lol
Seriously. Am here. Counting down until I can gtfo. Fuck this place. If I’m going to live in a right wing redneck goat rodeo, it had better have nice weather or a beach. No, lake Erie doesn’t count.
A Bowling for Soup reference in the year of our lord 2026. I see you
I think you’re the only one.
But it’s still a band and theyve done a few albums lately and had some bangers. Getting old sucks, but they’re still fun.
Also that cover album a couple years ago set me off on a whole pop-goes-punk phase, and I contend it’s still the best version of Flowers.
It was kind of an excuse for hippies who did too many drugs one if them was named Sydney gottlieb
I was happy to read that he felt like he failed in his work with the CIA.
It doesn’t excuse anything but I do take great joy in him knowing that he was a failure at his lifes work in the end. For someone like him I bet that really messed with his head.
I’ve never heard about the St.Louis Poisoning before… Surely it cant be yet another immoral, insane, evil program targeting black americans, right?
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Fuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_LAC
sounds more like they released a lot of dust to check how far the wind carries it
what i don’t get is why didn’t they just use some non-toxic substance
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because they werent testing on white people
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cause St.Louis specifically was a weapons test for the viability of using Zinc cadmium sulfide as a weapon against moscow
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Because those fucks were nuts to begin with.
So… a funny thing actually just happened…
CIA whistleblower testifies in Congress that the CIA basically raided the DNI (Tulsi Gabbard)'s office, to retrieve various files relating to JFK and MKUltra, that Trump had actually ordered be unsealed.
Anna Paulina Luna corroborates this.
Fox News (nation wide) runs a segment on this with Jesse Waters.
Then, a bunch of people change their tune.
Paulina Luna claims her comments were misconstrued.
Gabbard denies that this happened.
Jesse Waters removes this, his own segment, from his own social media.
Gabbard’s PR person says basically ‘no, a raid did not happen on that day, but about a year earlier, the CIA did confiscate some documents from the DNI, and they still have them.’
… at least that is my current attempt to comprehend this.
So uh… the DNI is supposed to be in charge of the CIA.
But, if you know anything about the CIA… they do whatever the fuck they want, to whoever they want.
There is only a single example of someone ostensibly in charge of the CIA that actually attempted to reign in the CIA and hold it accountable, make it stop doing things it wanted to do.
His brain got painted all over Dealey Plaza, in 1963.
Turner lied and parts of the program kept going. I’m wonder what’s going on with that one UFO guy who was trying to get a SCIF to talk to lawmakers. Subject gets dropped like a rock any time someone picks it up.
Well at least Operation Northwoods never happened. It was just a draft and Kennedy refused to sign it into action. Don’t get me wrong, it is pretty fucked up that it came that far, but at least it never went into action.
IT just means they learned how to sidestep that particular bureaucratic hurdle when the idea was repeated in 2001.
