Yeah kids. Cannot throw them away, cannot kill’em. Or so says the “law” apparently.
200 IQ child thief
That is a pretty funny remark.
So this one time I was like three and being too quiet. I don’t remember this. Apparently I had climbed up the upright grand piano and gotten scared of heights. I pressed myself against the wall and was whispering “help” over and over. Not too loud, because I was worried I’d get in trouble for climbing on the piano, but I needed help.
I was a high energy child. I learned to stop my bicycle at first by jumping off it onto grass hopefully and letting the bike crash. It must have been a nightmare for my parents to watch. So any extended silence was suspicious.
This thread has reminded me of why I don’t want kids.
My first kid was a perfect baby, she’d sleep 10 hours straight, she was quiet and never bratty, we would take her to restaurants with all our adult friends and she was always well behaved and didn’t need a tablet and would interact with everyone. We used to silently judge leash kid’s parents with the wife.
Then we had our second, an autistic boy with the energy of a thousand suns. Now I know, the leash isnt for me, it’s for all of you! The tablet at the restaurant makes sense now, and I don’t judge parents anymore
I get people giving me judgemental looks with the tablet at the dinner table when out in the wild. Im always tempted to take it off her when people look at me funny, they can see what happens.
Low volume blippi is annoying as shit, I get it, but also so is me running past your table every 30 seconds carrying her back, or the full-blown mortal screaming if I strap her to the chair.
We have a nephew who didn’t need a leash, but he had the cutest backpack what was a monkey and the tail was a leash that he loved wearing. He just turned 19.
His younger brother did not like the monkey, and he needed a leash. He was a runner. Still is, his mile is right around 6 minutes.
When me and my brother were coming up there were no tablets. The only thing to distract kids back then was McDonald’s colouring books.
Imagine my parents relief when the game boy was invented.
My first kid was a perfect baby, she’d sleep 10 hours straight, she was quiet and never bratty…Then we had our second, an autistic boy with the energy of a thousand suns.
My experience has been similar, except they absolutely rile eachother up, and when separated they’re both incredible quiet and chill. One of their grandparents refuses to take my youngest overnight but begs for sleepovers regularly with my oldest. We try to make it special for my youngest by doing stuff we don’t normally do on those nights (and we try to arrange outings with just the youngest too to make it as fair as we can), but it is really shocking just how quiet and reserved both are without the other to encourage them to cause chaos
Luckily my first has 11 years on her brother and helps out a lot with him
Starting all over with child proofing and sleepless nights after 11 years… wow. Seriously, respect for pulling it off.
My wife was waiting for me by the exit of Target with my infant son, and a lady rushed up with her cart, a baby in the baby holder, said, “Here, watch him!” and ran in the rest room.
I walked up, and saw my wife with another baby, and said, “We can’t afford two, we’ll have to return one,” and she told me the story. I thought it was hilarious, and couldn’t wait to meet this woman when she came out of the bathroom.
She eventually emerged, and thanked my wife for the help, and I said “You weren’t worried about handing your daughter off to a stranger?” And she replied:
“No, she already had one, I knew she wasn’t about to steal ANOTHER one!”
Well most of times you can differentiate frustration screaming and fear/danger screaming on toddlers
I can’t even differentiate the screams of play time from those of being brutally murdered that the kids I hear playing around my apartment complex make…
The screams of playtime are usually the ones punctuated by an adult yelling at them to shut up.
Yeah, the other kind tends to shut itself up pretty quick.
How many brutal murders of kids have you been ignoring?
As many as I can. Thankfully, I don’t live near a school (I’m American).
Same, and I have kids, so I, technically, should be able to differentiate.
Tbh, definitely not with all kids. You have to specifically train them to not use “emergency” screams when they are frustrated.
Kinda reminds me of when I was using dating apps, and women would ask how they knew I wasn’t a serial killer. “If I was a serial killer, it would be pretty stupid to leave a bunch of digital records of me being the last person my victim talked to, I’d get caught immediately.”
My son(11) will say, “you can’t do that, I’ll call the police and they will arrest you”. I say, great maybe I’ll get some peace and quiet. He doesn’t know I won’t, so it works. Lol.
My 4yo always threatens “I won’t invite you to my birthday party!” I always respond with “Yes, thank you, please don’t.” Which is confusing, because apparently it is the go-to threat in daycare to force ohther children to do something 😅. Then I am immediately invited again.
I have been told I have to go to my room and stay there. I’m like, you promise? Didn’t take long for that threat to stop.
I think it’s time. you gotta sacrifice the strategy because 11 is old enough to know acab
He’s autistic, and that concept is not something he could grasp yet.
… but if you were to call the cops on me at least it would be a brief yet welcome reprieve from parenting while they come to the inevitable conclusion that he is mine and they don’t want him around either
There is a reason for declining child birth numbers… it has everything to do with more people knowing what they are really getting into.
I don’t really follow your train of thought. People would have been just as aware (if not more, due to the prevalence of multigenerational households) of this in the past as they are now, no?
In the past people didn’t have access to a device with endless information about how rough it is the raise kids. Instead they had other local parents as a source, and those parents just wanted company in thier misery.
When I was a kid we used to just get thrown outside along with all the other kids and told not to come back until lunch time.
We used to get up to all sorts no one cared. At one point someone’s dad took us all to the beach which was about an hour away, we all just got in this strangers car (never met him before) and went to the beach. I don’t remember my parents been even remotely bothered by that when they found out.
Well if there was public daycare to take the stress off of parents who couldn’t deal with it then it wouldn’t be as big of an issue.
Yeah we had to raise our siblings. Ain’t raising another generation without being paid for it. It’s why we work in education.
I don’t need more reasons to not want children, I’m already decided, but this thread is sure reaffirming.
And that everyone’s too damn poor. Babysitter? Not on average wages! No one wants to give up all of their time and money for kids they might not be able to provide for.
Being poor has very little to with having children. The poor across the world have more children than the wealthy.
There are people giving 100% of their paychecks for childcare and the spouse pays for everything else.
That is a failure of the US and birth rates won’t improve until that changes.
won’t improve
Nothing wrong with current birth rates, just the reasons for them.
I think you meant
won’t increase
Low both rates deplete the workforce in the long term. Creates issues where tax revenue is low and cost of social programs and healthcare are extremely high because there are so many people at retirement age and beyond. Birth rates at a minimum should be stagnant.
deplete the word force
Its spelled “increase the negotiating power of labor”
tax revenues are low
Tax billionaires out if existence. Or re-organize society so we work somewhat efficiently and don’t spend 90% of allblabor doing useless corpo bosswank.
See, this is only a problem gor evil exploitative oligarch shit heels. Benefits humans very much.
That assumes no immigration
So the poor others should do the breeding while the wealthy limit their offspring to preserve more wealth for themselves?
I don’t know why, but “stealing him” is such a funny way of saying that.
How would you call dissapropriating someones children for recreational or other purposes?
Kidnap?
They are not supposed to scream during the process, it actually signals the end of it.
Unless you are wearing a hi vis vest, I hear. Then they let you walk right on by.
Or the start, sometimes the middle …
You should probably file a complaint about the person in the meme with the league of professional kidnappers.
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Kid no nap. Kidscream.
It’s funny because children aren’t people. Or something…
It’s just funny to use the word that means a different thing but close
I’m not shoplifting this child.
Or alternatively,
I’m not kidnapping this money/these goods/etc
My son fought me getting in the high chair in a restaurant yesterday. Wife had to hold him while I held his legs straight to get in. I feel that
How TF are they so strong!? I also noticed a difference in physical strength between boys and girls - while expected I did not anticipate it being so much different. I really have to use a muscle on my son sometimes and he’s not even 2 yo.
Same for kids and pets… They’re not really strong, it’s just that:
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You’re trying not to hurt them or yourself, they don’t really care. This really levels the playing field.
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You’re trying to accomplish a goal, they’re trying to do anything but that.this gives them a huge advantage.
Don’t forget leverage. Shorter limbs get more “strength” from their muscles.
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I don’t think the apple falls very far from the tree
Found the childless one who knows better. Always at least one of you.
Hard to tell from so little info. You can make a kid act like that by being a shitty parent, but they can also have issues unbidden that stretch you past your breaking point.
In any case, they don’t seem to have a healthy relationship.
10:1 odds that neither of you currently have a toddler.
Nah, that’s a fools bet lol.
Sounds like you’re an AI.
No, I counted their fingers and they’re clean
More than I can say of my own fingers, to be fair.
You have shit judgment?
I was just following instructions …
edit: Though I will admit you’re not wrong about my judgement.
I’ve had two, go fish.
had
Yeah, one is a teen now and the other is almost there. We have solid relationships and I’ve managed not to call them assholes when they’re acting up. Is there a point you’re trying to make?
Yes, there is a point I’m trying to make, which is it’s intrinsic to the human condition to paint a much rosier version of your own childrearing experiences once they’re historical.
The internet is awash with new parents wildly frustrated with how incredibly out-of-touch the platitudes they hear about their experience even coming from other older parents.
Your original comment is just that. Judgemental and out of touch. You can make a kid act like that? A screaming toddler? There will certainly be times when nothing you can do within the laws of physics can PREVENT them from acting like that. My toddler threw a hysterical fit because the garage door can’t be SIMULTANEOUSLY open AND closed. No, son, I know you believe Daddy can do anything but quantum super positions are even out of my hands.
Should the guy have called his kid an asshole? No.
How harshly should you judge them for it? In that moment? Probably not very.
Nice, see that that’s much better than a one-word snark. We can open a dialog.
I’d say that after raising two, and the youngest only being a handful of years since todler-dom, (and my eldest having spectrum issues), I still feel the pain and confusion, and we even had to seek professional help for the eldest. I’ve actually had training of how to deal with the situations for a child that had real emotional problems.
Judgemental and out of touch.
Yet there you are judging me, betting I don’t have kids, then moving the posts to I don’t have young kids right now.
Let’s disassemble my post:
Hard to tell from so little info.
It’s literally one person’s memory about a guy carrying a toddler throwing a full-on fit through a parking lot. Zero context. But you don’t generally carry them distance while they’re throwing the fit, you remove them from the situation, get them someplace quiet and work with them. 9:10 times they’re just tired and you can calm them and not carry them while they’re screaming enough that you’re scared someone is going to call the authorities.
You can make a kid act like that by being a shitty parent, but they can also have issues unbidden that stretch you past your breaking point.
I didn’t lay blame at the guys feet, I said he might have been stretched thin. That’s not really out of touch by my standards.
In any case, they don’t seem to have a healthy relationship.
If you’re calling your toddler an asshole in public to other strangers, whom you’re worried about the impression they have, that’s clearly not healthy. You can call that judgmental if you’d like, but I can also give you the number of a doctor who will tell you the same.
Now, let’s disassemble your post:
Yes, there is a point I’m trying to make, which is it’s intrinsic to the human condition to paint a much rosier version of your own childrearing experiences once they’re historical.
That’s a great goalpost move. You can disagree with me all you want, but this take is just bad out of context.
The internet is awash with new parents wildly frustrated with how incredibly out-of-touch the platitudes they hear about their experience even coming from other older parents.
Yes, new parents are wildly frustrated that someone tells them what they’re doing is wrong because it seems like a personal attack. It’s not. They survived and are offering how they did it, maybe the advice applies, maybe it doesn’t, everyone situation is different.
Your original comment is just that. Judgemental and out of touch.
If you’re going to call every parent who doesn’t have a 2-3 year-old out of touch, that’s another hot take. If everyone around you is out of touch, it may not be them that is the problem.
You can make a kid act like that? A screaming toddler? There will certainly be times when nothing you can do within the laws of physics can PREVENT them from acting like that. My toddler threw a hysterical fit because the garage door can’t be SIMULTANEOUSLY open AND closed. No, son, I know you believe Daddy can do anything but quantum super positions are even out of my hands.
Screeming all the way across a parking lot? To the point where you have to excuse yourself to others by calling the kid an asshole? within the laws of physics? My toddler threw a hysterical fit because the garage door can’t be SIMULTANEOUSLY open AND closed.
The prime difference here is that you didn’t have to persuade strangers that you were’t stealing the child and call the child an asshole because they were upset about a nonsensical thing. You also didn’t ignore them and carry them through a public place. The scene wasn’t so large than one random person felt the need to do a write up on social media. That’s pretty much the hallmark that the person isn’t handling the situation nominally.
Should the guy have called his kid an asshole? No.
I was defending the guy when someone else said the apple didn’t fall from the tree.
How harshly should you judge them for it? In that moment? Probably not very.
Now look in the mirror and tell yourself.
They took the toddlers back to the stork.
If I was going to take a kid from a stork, you think I’d take THIS one?
My kid just had a screaming fit with big fat tears rolling down his face because he reached the bottom of the stairs. The other day, he was howling crying because I had a different colored bowl than he did. I have indeed had to carry my kid out of a public space to go calm down. I do my best to be calm and empathetic to him but emotional regulation is something they grow into.
That’s the best you can do. Upset is normal. Throwing things is normal.
Kicking, punching and violence to the point where you have to make excuses that you’re not kidnapping isn’t.
I think that really depends on the kid too. I’ve had one behave like that fairly regularly until he grew out of it; the other will get upset rarely, and never in public.
The post read to me as the dad cracking a dry joke, not actually making an excuse.
to me as the dad cracking a dry joke, not actually making
That’s fair. I’d still get smacked upside my head by my wife, but to each their own :)
That’s fair. I’d still get smacked upside my head by my wife, but to each their own :)
That doesn’t sound like a healthy relationship.
Two concenting adults :) also figurative… but point taken
