For those out of the loop, WomensStuff has a women-only rule, where men are respectfully asked to not reply to posts.
Men when there is one (1) online community they are requested (politely) to not engage with
Ban the people obfuscating. Don’t assume guilt based on gender.
Being discriminated from a community based on gender is a small injustice, but it is an injustice nonetheless. At the very least, it’s a policy choice worthy of discussion.
Why are you using a justice frame? Its definitely not the the frame they are using.
Well I was trying to say something like “slightly a victim” but it didn’t sound right. So I thought saying they suffered a small injustice was close enough
I did this accidentally the other day.
I politely asked to get banned.
disagree with the rules, but ain’t my community, I ain’t invited, and I will politely respect it.
imagine walking into someone’s private party, only to complain that I wasn’t invited, and how dare they exclude me!!!
I pardon you for respecting the rule o7 (wish some other people would do that too, it happens way to often that people post their kinda shitty opinions in the comments)
Yep, blocked this one. No harsh feelings but I don’t think it’s meant to be public. They should be free to do what they want to do with their space. On the other hand, private would hurt discoverability. I sort of understand where they’re coming from.
Thanks for the no harsh feelings. Blocking is fine. See you in the other instances! (Not a mod, just a woman who appreciates the instance)
I am pretty disappointed eh. For obvious reasons.
I like to read WomenStuff because It helps me to understand the concerns of people who are different from myself, and knowing the rules; I don’t mind not posting because that’s the rule. So get on wit yo bad self, WomenStuff.
Hell yeah! That’s exactly the spirit of this post.
Apparently, a lot more men need to learn this.
There’s a lot of value in new perspectives. I’m glad its not set to private… but based on this thread, I’m sure the mods have their work cut out.
Blocked that comm, just so I wouldn’t accidentally violate that rule. No sense in getting emotionally invested in a post I’m not allowed to discuss.
This discussion reminds me of a party/orgy/something I saw being promoted and in the description it says that it was female/trans oriented (female and male trans included), but that they weren’t going to police anyone’s gender, but asked cis males to respect and didn’t participate.
What I find interesting here is that this all self identification and self reporting.
There’s no mechanism in Lemmy to force a user into such identification, so it is all voluntary.
fuck that bullshit. while they do have the right to exclude who they want, i have the right to be harshly critical. and i will say that any community where one is compelled to disclose any part of their identity as a requirement to participate is a toxic one. i suspect any account is subject to being pressured into proving they aren’t a man if the mods want to harass someone that way. this is why i am not and will never be a feminist in a million years.
“Men don’t feel as deeply as people like to imagine they do” - an idiot who has apparently never read men acting like absolute fannies literally all over the internet forever.
Im a dude who posts on femcels a lot because i like the memes. but I kinda like dick so iono i think i get a pass?
Just block the sub if it bothers you and wipe your mind free. That’s all there ever was to it.
I automatically block communities that put requirements like that on participation. If they don’t want me interacting with it, I don’t want to even see it. I also don’t think it’s appropriate for a publicly open forum. Go make your own private thing somewhere if you want to immediately start off as an echo chamber.
I didn’t want to see your comment, but that won’t stop me from complaining about having to see your comment anyway.
Often find yourself inside many stores you find irrelevant when strolling around town? All those unlocked doors must be such temptation.
I don’t recall ever seeing a sign on such a locked door (that is not even locked) that said “Open to the public; Come on in” only to walk in and then be shouted at for not being an employee.
How are new women to find it if it never appears in All? Feel free to block/remove it, just as you would any niches that don’t interest you and clog up your feed. Or just scroll past, like I do for Linux and gaming and moe.
You invite them or advertise where they can sign up. The same as any other kind of private group.
but linux doesnt tell you you cant comment here if you dont use linux
Agreed, it’s just a lot of paying attention to the instance names and scrolling past. Usually the post title is a clue as well, but occasionally something sounds like something else. I don’t want to block the whole term, because it might be a small part of some post I’d otherwise be interested in. In any case, I know better than to drop comments in a topic that’s outside my experience.
Imagine every public linux forum overrun by 90% Windows user,s and you might just begin to understand.
I mean this very kindly but “i don’t think it’s appropriate” is never a good reason to dictate the actions of others.
I think you just described two things working almost exactly as designed.
You should use block liberally to curate your feed.
Similarly, communities should have whatever rules make sense for them. If that keeps the community small, that might be the desired outcome for them.
I think blocking was the right call here.
There’s only one side of this that is using things as designed, and that would be me blocking things I don’t want to engage with. If a community wants to cater to a very specific group of people, they should be using the tools of the platform that allow them to do so by being set to private snd creating a whitelist instead of leaving it public and expecting everyone to follow the honor system of not engaging if they are not part of the accepted group.
There is no benefit to leaving it public and being private doesn’t make it invisible.
In the very broadest sense I don’t disagree with you. Making a community private is a useful tool and can help to simplify strict entry guidelines.
However, given that “Cater to a very specific group of people”, refers to basically half of earth’s population in this case, I do have some quibbles.
I don’t have the data in front of me, but I bet that women represent something quite less than half the population of Lemmy. It doesn’t even stretch the imagination to suppose that they represent just a fraction of the user base.
So this isn’t a niche interest or obscure sub-culture we’re talking about. This is an artificial minority population. Is the simplicity of going private worth the added obscurity and increased friction to what should be organic community growth?
As it is, you had to see it, decide to engage with it, and then learn that it wasn’t meant for you, and you’d have just preferred to remain unaware it ever existed. Never mind that would also ensure most other People remain unaware it exists.
Is it really such a hardship on you for the filter to be set a little wider for the good of that community?
Yeah, unfortunately I did the same after I got warned off for a perfectly fine interaction.
That’s okay. I mean, if you want to open it up again and read it to get a perspective on how women speak when they’re in their own space, nobody minds. But if you don’t want it cropping up in your feed, that’s cool. Obviously the reason it shows up in All is so new women can find it. Being reminded not to comment is just that, a reminder of the rules, and not necessarily a criticism of the content. If women didn’t face so much denial of their voices it wouldn’t be necessary.
