I feel like this is going to be highly variable depending on individual personalities, industries, and even specific employers. The largest employers do tend to be shittier, which probably does a lot of heavy lifting for this statistic.
How does that help employers?
Happier employees -> more loyal employees -> more productivity, less turn over, fewer training costs
Its really not that complicated
ETA: not to mention that remote employees are more likely to work longer hours which also leads to more productivity
Don’t need as much office space
who fucking cares?
My non-sciencey group of “experts in the obvious” said the same thing.
Still, it’s good to have solid data backing us up as well.
Much as I agree with the headline, this site appears to be entirely AI generated slop.
And there’s no study to be found there.
In other news, the sky is blue and water makes you wet.
Why don’t they add in shit employers care about like it makes everyone work 10x better only fools return to office. Shit like that. Shit people can use. The ghouls don’t give a flying fuck if we are happy or not, eat better, sleep better. They want metrics that show if workers can produce more or not for same wages and same hours. Period
Your statement is very absolutist therefore it cannot be true.
Personally I did WFH for 4 years as a contractor and now I am back to office, but not always for forced to be in only 50% and I much prefer it, to the extent that I am doing more than 50% in the office.
I still have the option to just not go in if I don’t feel like it, I am a bit under the weather or just haven’t slept well or have stuff to take care of and I don’t go in on fridays because traffic coming out of the city those days is horrendous.
I would probably quit if I had to dogmatically go in everyday no matter what.
Your statement is very absolutist therefore it cannot be true.
criticizes “absolutist” statement…with an absolute!
bold strategy, lmao!
Feel free to refute my points if you want and actually contribute to the conversation , but you can’t so you are doing a “dunking”.
Shit people can use.
Sounds like people could use unions.
Even when presented with the numbers they don’t care. Management told us, going from 2 days in the office to full WFH increased our productivity by 15%, they’re still forced to make us go back 3 days a week (so more than before COVID) and they told us that a reduction in productivity is expected.
When IBM senior management was asked by a staff member for data supporting their RTO policy one of the managers literally said, “I’ve managed teams before. I don’t need data.”
As soon as we created highspeed telecommunications possible across vast distances and that we are making them faster all the time … making people travel to a work station makes less and less sense.
What does it make in a modern city? Let’s make tens of thousands of people wake up at 6am and all travel to work at the exact same time every day. Let’s make them all travel simultaneously at roughly the same two hour time slot every morning in the same direction.
Then at the end of the day, let’s make them all make the return trip between 4pm and 6pm.
All because we want a captive group of workers to perform menial tasks they could perform in a couple of hours at home but instead they get to work and wander around and waste as much time as possible to justify why they are at work.
The cruelty
Is the pointA busy and tired populace is a kompliant populace.
/searches “Capitalist Manifesto” for happy workers phrase
My friend just lost a dream job they barely had for a week because the company went full RTO and they wanted him to relocate and he couldn’t.
Fuck RTO.
This is a very binary discussions. It is entirely possible that working from home when concentration is needed, and office for cohesion and alignment, is better for everyone.
I sure as shampoo have 5x the efficiency when not in the office. But i also get disconnected and work feels meaningless when not with a group of people.
I feel the exact same way after working from home for the last five years. The disconnection and pointlessness along with the reduced physical activity and terrible company corporate culture have actually resulted in me seeking out a job in an office again.
I think it may be better for mental health and physical health, depending on the company and their culture.
Thanks man. I got some hate for my comment suggesting a mix might be beneficial and I hobestly don’t get it.
I have much the same experience as you with disconnection and meaningfulness.
I think a lot of the negative energy comes from folks that lack experience, and maybe are stuck in an office wanting to work from home. It definitely has its upsides, but it isn’t all sunshine and rainbows!
It is entirely possible that working from home when concentration is needed, and office for cohesion and alignment, is better for everyone.
Do you have anything to back up your feelings?
You want me to back up that something is possible? Like prove that the fabric of everything could facilitate a situation with the mentioned parameters holds true at the same time without the universe imploding?
That is a great epistemological question. And of little practical value i fear.
However, as you came across derogatory with the feelings bit, I’m going to have to ask you to try again, if you really want to talk about this stuff.
So no then. Got it.
Too bad the folks in charge don’t care about your happiness.
The assumption is that if you have time to be happy, you have time to work more so happiness needs to be stamped out to increase productivity. That’s of course a myth as data shows happy workers are more productive. The result is workers stuck in the twilight zone of not being happy and not getting more work done. It’s one of the business religious beliefs.
This is exactly it. It’s a delicate balance that needs to be struck.
We always could’ve had more at the expense of our rulers. Since we’re collectively willing to accept less, that’s what we get.
It should really put into perspective how damaging class traitors are. They actively lower standards for the rest of us.
Who gives a fuck what they care about? Too bad folks don’t take matters into their own hands.
WFH enabled so many Americans who are disabled to actually hold a job, a job they wanted, and this is a direct attack on disabled employees and disabled people. WFH is inherently more accessible so you end up with more disabled employees, which cost your work sponsored health insurance to go up, which they do not want, so they erect this barrier of being in the office to prevent people who need to work from home from being employed there. Disallowing WFH is explicitly to get around the ADA
RTO is ableism
I would argue that Work from Home is an economic booster. More people get to work, less time and fuel spent on commuting, unneeded buildings don’t consume money anymore, social distancing, and so forth. It is just good all around.
Excellent point. I hadn’t thought of it that way, but I think that’s very likely an aspect of it.
Still waiting on the government of Canada to release their GBA+ report on imposing a return to the office that applies the same way to all even though pre-COVID such a measure didn’t exist and they intentionally hired people that couldn’t RTO during COVID… You know, a report that public servants are told is a necessity whenever a decision with a big impact has to be made…
No duh Sherlock
I’ve reported directly to the head before. Here’s why they don’t like remote work. These bosses are typically highly narcissist paired with paranoia.
I think many CEOs thinks like Trump, so let’s work off that. They have narcissism and paranoia. They are highly insecure. They assume the worst and others, but have ridiculously high expectations.
Trump can’t fathom people doing the right thing for the sake of it. He has never done a thing that didn’t benefit him. He can’t imagine not cheating someone given a chance. He’s cheated every single time.
My CEO was highly paranoid. He decided to setup cameras anywhere. He started confronting employees who left early or arrived later not understanding that everybody doesn’t arrive or leave the office at the same time. Even though the company needed focus on the agenda, he spent most of his time stalking employees.
When I was confronted for leaving early, I had to explain that I’m still working while making a delivery on my way home, or that it’s okay for me to be late if the first thing I do when I wake up is to respond to urgent emails and make important calls. This resulted in retaliatory pay cuts, so I quit. Of course, the business could not afford to lose me, so now I do contract work for more than double per hour and found a new job that treats everyone a lot better.
These people are truly detached from reality. Their poisoned brains prevent them from understanding basic human nature. The only side of human nature they understand is how people bend over for money. They’re control freaks.
Keeping you in office means they have the ability to pressure you. Emotional manipulation through micro management or unreasonable expectations. They know that at home, they can’t see you squirm. At work, you’re not safe, but at home, you are.
It’s very sad the way things went for Narcissus. He just wanted to mind his own business, it’s not his fault he was so beautiful people couldn’t control themselves. Any person would get as grumpy as he was if they were in the same situation.
There’s also sour grapes from management types that have to go to the office for one reason or another. If I have to go, why don’t they?
This is exactly why the corporate world is trying to abolish it.
