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Hofmaimaier@feddit.org to memes@lemmy.world · 28 days ago

Has the imperial system gone to far?

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  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    Ha Ha, non-Euclidian geometry go brr. :)

  • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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    Assigning a value of 5 to pi, although ludicrous IRL, doesn’t affect the problem. Plug the values into the equation and it will still give an answer that’s correct in context.

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      For the benefit of doubt, maybe the test is from an alternate dimension that doesn’t use euclidean space.

      • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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        Possible. I mean, electricity could actually be run by ghosts, but there’s no need for fanciful explanations when a mundane one is right there.

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        I’ve been there, I think, but it was really difficult to triangulate my location and confirm

        • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
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          That’s because you were supposed to rhombusulate, not triangulate.

    • ftbd@feddit.org
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      27 days ago

      If the goal is to avoid calculations with decimal places, why not just leave Pi in the result?

      • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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        27 days ago

        That would work too.

    • bss03@infosec.pub
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      27 days ago

      Do cylinders even exist in metrics where pi = 5 ?

      • Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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        Yes. The 3d shape existence is not affected by changing pi values

        • bss03@infosec.pub
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          27 days ago

          Cause it’s just a (n-1)-dimensional ball extruded along the remaining axis, or do all 3d shapes exist on (nearly) all 3d metrics?

          • Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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            Mostly because the actual pi values can vary in between non/euclidean geometries. Within extremely strong gravitational fields, spacetime becomes highly non euclidean, affecting the C/d ratio of an actual circle, so I’d wager this would affect pi as well

      • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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        Technically no, because pi equals pi not 5. But you can approximate its value as 3 or 5 or whatever you want, knowing it’s not exact and that your result will only be an approximation. I mean you could also ask how long light takes to reach us from Alpha Centauri if the speed of light is 1000 mph. It’s not, but if you make that a condition of the problem you can do the calculation just fine.

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          26 days ago

          I think that reason would make it “Technically Yes”, since False (pi = 5) implies False (cylinders exist) is (vacuously) True (“absurd premise”).

    • CannedYeet@lemmy.world
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      27 days ago

      I wish the would have used 22/7 for pi and 7 for the radius or height

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    deleted by creator

    • slothrop@lemmy.ca
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      28 days ago

      Round Up.

      • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.world
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        27 days ago

        round

        heh

    • misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      27 days ago

      I remember when Pi was monetized, that sounds like Pi Common, only $9.99/mo for 0 significant digits.

    • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world
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      28 days ago

      Sick burn. Especially from a Belgian! Waddle waddle

    • RQG@lemmy.world
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      28 days ago

      Ah yes. I have heard about that.

      American Pi.

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        27 days ago

        Believe it or not, there is precedent for this.

      • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
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        27 days ago

        “Now this is a fucked up situation.”

    • OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world
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      27 days ago

      I’m an American. I weigh about 140 lbs (63.5 kg). I’m about 5.75 ft (1.75 m) tall. Am I fat?

      • Marthirial@lemmy.world
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        Manlet. Barely better than fatass.

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        • Wanderer@lemm.ee
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          I’m American. I got 80% on my IQ test am I dumb? That’s a GPA of 3.0.

        • OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world
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          27 days ago

          I’m not the one making dumb generalizations. Fuck off with your stereotypes.

          • Aux@feddit.uk
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            27 days ago

            You’re literally a walking stereotype, incredible!

            • OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world
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              Well, stereotypes are lazy humor, and I’m lazy & my life is a joke - so you’ve got me there.

              • Aux@feddit.uk
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                27 days ago

                Fair enough

      • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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        27 days ago

        Yes, you should lose 100lbs. Just look at people who were forced on a diet. They were just bones because they had nothing to eat but flour and water. You got to go for the emaciated look.

  • Jolteon@lemmy.zip
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    28 days ago

    Ah yes, all those imperial units…

  • Chris@lemmy.world
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    It’s probably trying to teach kids algebra without using decimals. But it does look messed up. Everyone knows at least 3.14, except kids I guess

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      I’m fine with 3, maybe 4, but 5???

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      I don’t understand. Aren’t fractions better than decimals for algerba?

      Like 22/7 is better than 3.14 when it comes to pi for example.

      We always got taught to do everything as fractions and then convert to units at the last possible moment to reduce errors in rounding.

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        Kiddos would need to know how to divide for that though. I’m just trying to come up with a reason for it lol.

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      I got my daughter to memorize 50 digits of pi when she was 11 or 12 by betting her $50 she couldn’t.

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        My 7-year-old got obsessed and did it from a YouTube video to 100 places because he was bored.

        He also knows base 2 to 65536

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          My buddy in high school had it memorized it to 700+ digits. He was bored.

      • Hofmaimaier@feddit.orgOP
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        I’ll remember that, but she is four now…

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          I’m goons gonna try it with my 7yo. I’ll report back if he gets anywhere. On the plus side $10 should be enough incentive.

        • Lucy :3@feddit.org
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          Von nichts kommt nichts. Also los.

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    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      Everyone knows at least 3.14

      And biblical authors.

      • Hofmaimaier@feddit.orgOP
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        In Terry Pratchett’s wonderfully witty Discworld novel, Going Postal, the topic of pi comes up in a rather humorous and characteristically Pratchettian way.

        The newly appointed Postmaster General, Moist von Lipwig, encounters a rather eccentric inventor named Bloody Stupid Johnson. Bloody Stupid Johnson is known for his, well, stupidly brilliant inventions. One of these inventions is a new kind of postal sorting engine.

        When discussing the design of a wheel for this engine, Bloody Stupid Johnson proudly states that he designed it so that pi is exactly three.

        • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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          This is in contrast with how pi is otherwise consistently expressed on the Disc, which is “three and a bit.”

          Notably, Bloody Stupid Johnson is so skilled/inept that he actually does make pi equal to three within the machine… somehow… which breaks reality in a small amount of space inside it.

          Apparently King David had this skill as well, since this is mentioned twice in the old testament:

          1 Kings 7:23: And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

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            Clearly π was equal to 3 in old testament times, but geometry got all screwy when Jesus died for our sines.

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      might also be to teach actually reading the instructions instead of blindly typing pi into the calculator

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      My dad told me a rhyme to memorize like 15 digits of pi before I knew what pi is at like eight years old I’m guestimating. I remember it ever since.

      • ExtantHuman@lemm.ee
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        … Yet refuses to share it with the world!

        • Opisek@lemmy.world
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          It’s in a different language.

  • Bort@hilariouschaos.com
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    Every engineer knows pi is 3 🤦‍♂️

    • 🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕠𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖@lemm.ee
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      e=π=3=√g=√10=c*10^-8

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      28 days ago

      +/-0.2

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    3,140, uh, somethings? LOL, I started without realizing they defined pi as 5.

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    In combat conditions Pi can reach 4 and E can reach 3. Maul halten und weiter dienen, all that.

    OK. I might be thinking too much into this, but the metric system is good for practical use, but bad for didactic purposes. Some things which could use understanding are “automated” with the metric system.

    So making Pi a variable is … fine. Maybe it’s some different geometry where it is.

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    10 cubits with a circumference of 30 cubits, yadda yadda yadda

    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

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        Shh, the adults are talking.

  • tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    28 days ago

    AI?

    • LostXOR@fedia.io
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      This image long predates AI.

      • rumba@lemmy.zip
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        That classifies it as real stupidity :)

        • LostXOR@fedia.io
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          RS > AI

  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    This question was written by an engineer

    • Oxysis/Oxy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      There’s good reasons they engineers over calculate, because they know things break, that people don’t do regular maintenance and that people will over stress the object. So engineers have to account for things like this when designing an object or a device so they don’t fail prematurely.

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        Engineer here, I always just use pi and a “safety factor” multiplier. Extra material is expensive, and I want the cheapest part (like a screw) to fail first. We don’t just oversimplify pi because half the time it’ll make your design weaker.

        (If I just got whooshed I apologize)

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          100%, also how would I indicate to colleagues or successors when I used what value for pi? Clear diving is a thing for me.

          Safety factors are both more explicit and self-documenting up to a certain point.

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        I’m familiar

        It’s funny because engineers are known for making simplifications like this, not because the simplification is problematic

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        Factor of pi-safety

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      Nice try, physicists.

  • The Giant Korean@lemmy.world
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    Just round up to the closest multiple of 5.

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    In America, numbers are just bigger.

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      Bigger numbers are better numbers!!! The best in the world!!!1!11!!!11!

  • HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today
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    The teacher is obviously a fat fuck that dreams of more pi.

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    It’s clearly just saying that the surfaces on which the ends of the cylinder lie are metric spaces with distances defined using Chebyshev or Taxicab metrics based on pentagonal tilings of the parabolic plane so the ratio of a circle’s circumference to diameter is 5.

    Since it’s a cylinder we assume the vertical dimension is Euclidean and voila the math checks out geometrically.

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      Whoa, amazing!

      Astrology is so cool

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        You know what’s even cooler?

        G E O L O G Y !!

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          Geology rocks

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          https://xkcd.com/1610/

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