• iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
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      For putting some crap in a box, taping on a flyer, and then lying on the internet?

      You don’t actually think this happened, do you? Why would the post office ship a heavy package for free just because a no postage needed flyer is stuck to it?

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          I’m sorry that it came off as condescending. Truly, that was not the intent. Tone is difficult over text, but I was more going for an incredulous sarcasm that beckoned critical thinking.

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            incredulous sarcasm that beckoned critical thinking.

            That would be where the condescending tone comes from. If you don’t want to come off as condescending, don’t do that.

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          Also weirdly accepts the premise of the story then calls it a lie. Like at least have some narrative cohesion in your snark, people, it’s not hard.

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      If it wasn’t shitty towards the post office people O would support it.

      But under 10 lbs…

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        Sadly we have a weight and size limit on these, but if you can load a mini fridge and keep it under 70lbs it should be accepted.

        Legally this is not shipping advice and purely a shitpost

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          There is no way that those prepaid postage meant for a letter is gonna be good for 70lb.
          The postal service has to have lower cost options

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            They’re actually not prepaid, they’re counted as postage due at the destination office and either charged to their account automatically or paid at the time of pickup.

            There are lower cost options like nonprofit or third class postage, but that’s usually what they’re paying to send out the junk with these business reply envelopes in the first place. Business reply mail AFAIK is charged at the first class postage rates.

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              I know it’s not technically prepaid.

              But it’s wild that the postal service wouldn’t have an option here to only accept letters.

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                Probably one of those cases where it’s only allowed because there’s no rule specifically forbidding it, and some determined individual figured out it worked one day.

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            That’s the business’ risk for sending those prepaid envelopes out. From the USPS site itself “[Moreover, when a BRM card or envelope is misused and affixed to a sealed item, the permit holder will be responsible for payment of the applicable Retail postage and per piece fee.]

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              But it also says

              DMM 505.1.4.8, “Labels,” states that in cases when a BRM card or envelope is misused as a BRM label, USPS® treats the item as waste.
              BRM cards and envelopes are designed to be mailed as a First-Class Mail card, letter, or flat only, and not as a BRM label to be attached to other items.

              So I’m still a but fuzzy

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                So I’m still a butt fuzzy

                Weird self-deprecating thing to say, and not sure how it relates, but best wishes with that!

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    When I was in college my roommates and I would open all those offers standing at the mailbox, seal the empty envelopes back up, then put then right back in the mailbox for the carrier to grab the next day (or maybe mail thieves, who knows). We figured just mailing them all back was going to cost something.

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      When I was first out of college I used to get 8-10 of pre-payed envelopes every week. I kept a PO box for my mail that I would check weekly.

      I would have maybe 1 or two pieces of real mail and a full box of junk.

      So I started folding up the junk mail I to the 8-10 prepared envelopes every week. This was all done at the counter next to my PO box and dropped mailed back right then.

      It was quite cathartic.

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    IF you’re going to do this, make sure use some sort of sealed package (like the box in the photo). You used to be able to slap these things on like a sheet of plywood and just send it as is but now if the package isn’t sealed and is obvious misuse the post office can just throw it in the dumpster. If its a sealed package then the post office has to deliver it and the permit holder has to pay the charges. https://about.usps.com/postal-bulletin/2019/pb22525/html/updt_001.htm

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        Considering the density of neutronium, a 70 lb piece would be about the size of a dust mote, if not much smaller. Good luck getting a standard box to hold something that small and dense.

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          The joke here is that neutronium might be the only substance dense enough to actually weigh 70lbs and still be able to fit into a flat rate box, which has set dimensions and a limit of 70lbs.

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    I have long fantasized about doing this exact same thing, especially to MAGA-types who somehow got my address and are mailing me requests for donations. Someone in those groups as well as THE SALVATION ARMY have discovered that those postage guaranteed reply envelopes cost money and prompt this response. So now all that stuff requires a stamp if you want to reply. I hope that’s cut down on their fundraising efforts.

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      What is wrong with the salvation army? Sometimes go in there looking for board games when we check if any of the charity shops have any games beyond 50 versions of monopoly and trivia pursuit.

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        They’re Christians and you know how bad Christians are, with all the volunteering and the charity and the do-gooders and all

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            There aren’t any Palestinian Christians left after what Hamas did. Do you not know the history of the area? It’s fucked up.

            I suggest you go research it yourself, I’m just a random commenter on the Internet and there’s way more credible sources out there

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        • In 1998, the Salvation Army refused to comply with San Francisco’s laws regarding domestic-partner benefits, costing it $3.5 million in city contracts and leading to the closure of certain programs for homeless people and the elderly.
        • In 2001, the organization tried to strike a deal with the Bush administration, which would have allowed religious charities that receive federal funding to circumvent local ordinances against anti-LGBTQ discrimination. (The organization also threatened to stop all of its New York City operations in 2004.)
        • In 2012, a Salvation Army branch in Vermont was accused of firing a case worker after learning she was bisexual.
        • Also in 2012, Salvation Army spokesperson George Hood said the organization views same-sex relationships as sinful. “A relationship between same-sex individuals is a personal choice that people have the right to make,” Hood said at the time. “But from a church viewpoint, we see that going against the will of God.”

        https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/12/16/21003560/salvation-army-anti-lgbtq-controversies-donations

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        the christian holiness movement offshoot organized in actual army ranks under red banners emblazoned with their literal motto “blood and fire”? idk but i could pick out a few things that seem… off

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          Are we even thinking of the same organisation? Never seen that, but maybe they keep it hidden round the back as it would put off customers. I live in the UK, not sure if that makes a difference

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            Salvation Army is more than just a thrift store. They use that to fund their other stuff.

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        They are anti-LGBT. I don’t have a source handy for you at the moment so encourage you to search it up.

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      It wouldn’t surprise me if one slipped through, there are overrides on stuff that get rejected and USPS is a massive organization with millions of parcels moving at any given moment.

      This idea came from people mailing wooden shims back to the credit card companies because it would increase the postage cost over the normal weight… Please don’t do that though. Letters go through a Dr. Seuss Esque sorter system and the shims are too sturdy and sometimes get ripped out of the mail and shot across the facility…

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          Feel free to stuff as much paper as you can fit, it’s just wood, plastics and the like that are too rigid for the machines to handle sometimes. USPS gets money for return mailing, so it’s a benfit to them as long as shims or pieces of plastic arent flying around the facility like a bullet.

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      No, this is fake. You can put whatever you want in the envelope and send it back, but they won’t deliver a whole package. They only prepaid postage for a letter.

      Of course if you send something dangerous/threatening you might get arrested.

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    Friendly reminder.

    Make sure that you use a box with no identifying information. Scribbling out the barcodes isnt enough.

    Mailing restrictions still apply. Mailing them back rotting fish or potentially hazardous materials is a federal offence.

    Mailing any kind of threat is also against the law.

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      If you’re concerned about your anonymity, keep in mind that companies frequently put ID numbers on their return envelopes to help match the returned mail piece with your record in their database. Sometimes the number is invisible (UV ink) so it doesn’t look “mass produced” to the recipient.

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      Doesn’t help when you use a return postage slip. They have unique codes. Being “just annoying” is probably the safest bet.

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    Reminds me of a webcomic I used to read where the mad scientistesque physics student realized he could use the lead bricks he’d been using to prop open doors for exactly this purpose.

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      I know/hope this is a joke but people used to do this at an independent, third party, mail sorting place I worked at as a teenager.

      They’d mail all sorts of shit (both literal and figurative) and it was basically handled by one guy who seemed ok with it but was definitely not ok.

      Mail them lead, weights, whatever. But please, no matter how despicable the company, there’s likely some at very least mildly abused worker who is just trying to earn a wage and has to deal with the vile shit people try to punish companies with.

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        This. Your mail isn’t going to be opened by the CEO. Hurt the business, not the worker. Mail them a box of rocks or something, the company will pay postage on it and the minimum wage guy opening packages will laugh.

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      I read this as you wrote it: “its farts”, like the envelope has farts, vs “it is farts”. Both are technically correct, but seems so much funnier that way.

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    USPS got so pissed at me for just leaving my junk mail in the box. I told them over and over I didn’t need trash delivered to my place. In the end, I just stopped all USPS deliveries. I had nothing of importance coming in through the mail.

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      Lol. I just stick it back into the outgoing mail slot if they dont listen to me. My box is clearly marked with 'no junk mail’s signage.

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      I tried to stop all deliveries and they said I could not. There’s even a criminal penalty for removing your own mailbox

      There is no reason to ever mail me anything. When I order a package I have it delivered to a business

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        It wasn’t too long ago that I did it. Maybe 8-10 years ago. I realized nothing I needed came in the mail, so I just stopped checking. At one point the postman literally just took all the junk mail and dumped it on my front step. I raised holy hell with the post office about littering, after jamming it all back into the outgoing mail. I think the way the postmaster did it, instead of dealing with my assholeness, was just setting my residence to unoccupied in or something along those lines. Spam, of all sorts (aside from Spam musubi) is just a fucking drag. Like all marketing and advertising.

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      Postal Employee: “May I help you?”

      Kramer: “Yeah, I’d like to cancel my mail.”

      Postal Employee: “Certainly. How long would you like us to hold it?”

      Kramer: “Oh, no, no. I don’t think you get me. I want out, permanently.”

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        No, stopping all USPS deliveries is not an option. They can usually hold mail for up to 30 days if you apply for it, but I think this even varies by local office.

        You can, however, refuse some mail. This is a manual process. You can also apply to be removed from mailing lists, which is almost certainly what the other poster did.

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        You just have to move to a place where the post office is a disaster and you won’t get mail anymore. Northern new Mexico, for one.

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        Yeah, it got so bad I was worried I was going to rage on the delivery driver (for what it’s worth, I support the USPS and have not heard a legitimate argument about why it should be stopped. But fucking junk mail. I know it accounts for a chunk of their income, there has got to be a better way. Like making the price of every single piece of junk mail that is delivered to me is $10. Something. Cut out junk mail and only have delivery 4 days a week. Not consecutively.

        But yeah, to get back to your question. I talked to the Postmaster at the local Post Office and they had me write and sign a piece of paper saying,“I DON’T WANT THIS SHIT NO MORE!”. The trouble it caused in my life was absolutely dwarfed by the positive of not having to deal with that shit anymore.