• IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Stop this nonsense. He is now a public figure, and the police have all the reasons in the world to encounter protests.

    If the police sent 5 guys, encountered a small group who attach them you’d all be meme’ing about the police incompetency.

    This is the dumbest reason to make fun of the police who make it easy.

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      3 months ago

      This is a perp walk, the police/DA/et al made this happen - and ensured the media was there to capture the moment of him in ‘inmate orange’ flanked by heavily armed state police. Absolutely pre trial prejudicial influence.

      Given the speed at which his arraignment and extradition from PA happened, and the fact that the NYPD could have chosen multiple different routes and methods to get him to NYC, he could have been shuffled into a regular prison bus in a police convoy from the airport, with blacked out windows - like is common in Europe where this kind of malfeasance actually results in mistrials and acquittals.

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          An outside perspective helps - it is very hard to have the cognizance and understanding to see through subtle propaganda like this when it has been ‘normal’ your entire life.

          Growing up abroad I almost exclusively saw print and TV media coverage of murder, fraud, rape, etc trials whilst almost never seeing a real image of the accused - just pastel courtroom sketches and videos of vans like that swerving into prison yards flanked by journalists throwing their cameras up at the tinted windows, hoping their photo flash can punch through and get a blurry headshot.

          Conversely in the US where a lazy/complicit media will routinely engage in access journalism in a quid pro quo with the state/wealthy/famous, where they are fed information directly from the source they are ostensibly ‘investigating’ who will demand to remain anonymous, whilst also feeding the press select information and context that build a narrative. “Journalist” gets a story for their deadline with minimal effort and can repeatedly go back to that source in the future as long as they don’t challenge the state/PR narrative. Rinse and repeat, collect paycheck and vie for that Pulitzer headpat.

          Why do you think we keep having these ‘open secret’ and #MeToo falls from grace despite decades of predatory behavior? Real journalists get careers cancelled, death threats, or assassinated in a carbombing for exposing the Panama, Paradise, & Pandora Papers, we have far too much lazy reposting masquerading as actual journalism.

          • stinky@redlemmy.com
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            3 months ago

            Stay anonymous, stay safe, and please keep doing what you do. We need to hear this.

            • Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee
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              3 months ago

              I appreciate the concern, but we all already live in the digital panopticon.

              The basic setup of Bentham’s panopticon is this: there is a central tower surrounded by cells. In the central tower is the watchman. In the cells are prisoners – or workers, or children, depending on the use of the building. The tower shines bright light so that the watchman is able to see everyone in the cells. The people in the cells, however, aren’t able to see the watchman, and therefore have to assume that they are always under observation.

              The Victorian idea was to ensure compliance of the incarcerated by actualizing the impression of omnipotent surveillance. They’ve built that into the framework of digital spaces by hijacking the ISPs at the source, creating a permanent man-in-the-middle.

              The room… contains several racks of equipment, including [devices] designed to intercept and analyze Internet communications at very high speeds. It is fed by fiber optic lines from beam splitters installed in fiber optic trunks carrying Internet backbone traffic… [giving] access to all Internet traffic that passes through the building, and therefore “the capability to enable surveillance and analysis of internet content on a massive scale, including both overseas and purely domestic traffic.”

              ‘Swimming in the noise’ was a decent way to stay unnoticed, but AI and ML processing throughput combined with metadata is carving that out rapidly.

      • samus12345@lemm.ee
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        3 months ago

        Absolutely pre trial prejudicial influence.

        Considering most seem to understand that he’s being targeted with extra punishment by the ruling class for daring to kill one of their own, this doesn’t do them any favors in dismissing that notion. I know it looks like the Starship Troopers giant bug meme to me.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      It is just more evidence for the pile to show that police do not exist to protect people, but rather to protect capital.

      It’s not nonsense.

    • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
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      They kept us busy fighting culture wars post Occupy protests.

      And we larped it too.

      God willing the pedons got a clue what we are dealing with there.

      Insurance is just the tip of the iceberg. All corpos behave like this.

      They fuck us on labour side and then turn around and do the same on consumer end too.

      Parasites got a good grift and most people can’t even ID the enemy.

      Warren buffet worship is prime example…

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        No, it’s the maga, I mean the wokes, I mean the global warming deniers, I mean the alphabet people…

    • FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world
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      There really is no other interpretation. Who can look at this and possibly suggest that they are on our side?

  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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    Why are we pretending like this isn’t prudent on NYPD’s part? If this weren’t 2000 miles away I’d probably show up, if not to try and bust him out then at the very least to throw shit at the cops and yell. And if I’m considering driving a prius thru the fence to free the guy, I can only.imagone what the non suburban cishet white male techie demographic is feeling about it.

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      Yeah, I assumed it wasn’t too keep him under control, but because of the hero worship he’s receiving.

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          3 months ago

          To people who don’t know the story (ie potential jurors) it could be detrimental, but I’m sure his lawyer will address that.

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            3 months ago

            Does any potential juror possibly not know about this? We’re not talking about rare mineral slave miners here.

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        3 months ago

        Of course it still looks really bad on camera. This is one of those lose/lose situations where your best course of action still amplifies a message you probably don’t want to amplify.

      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Absolutely. Turns out people still hate murderers, and like justice. Hence the love for luigi and why Derrick Murderer hasn’t got crowds demanding his release…

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      3 months ago

      That sounds completely reasonable, until you realize the mayor of NYC was there right behind him. That one little detail blows up the whole story and makes you realize that it was just a photo op.

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      3 months ago

      I’d try to get close enough to look like one of those true crime fanatics and throw my bra and panties at him. Pretty sure he would know how to use the bra wire to make lockpicks.

      • Kiwi_fella@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        I think out of all I’ve been reading, your comment has brought me a lot joy and smiles. Thank you for something good on a Friday night after a tough week.

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          Glad to help, as someone who fits the specified demographic in the comment I originally replied to. Except white, I have no ethnic background that would make me even remotely white. Hope the rest of the holiday season looks up for you, cheers!

          • flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            3 months ago

            I’m like the whitest woman I’ve ever met. Maybe if a bunch of us make posters with glitter paint like we’re going to see a boy band and shower him with bras, our odds will go up both that he’ll get one and keep it long enough, and that they’ll assume we’re “harmless.”

            …actually if we did the first part we could probably overwhelm them and free him.

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              I like this idea. If any of the cops that move him in and out of his cell have the stereotypical cop mentality, they might make him put on one of the bras to emasculate him. Unknowingly giving him the keys to freedom.

              • flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                We can put a comfy sports bra on underneath so we don’t have to deal with the bouncing when we run away.

    • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      ^ this.
      The media outreach of one person was huge and is a bigger risk to transfer than the other. Ill let you all figure out who is who

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    Well, Elon and Donald have taken care of the “salaried” thing now. But yes, they are showing him off like Hannibal Lector. They have treated worse people better, but they just killed “blacks”, not CEOs.

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      They‘re just treating him like this because it is less common to kill a CEO than students or black people.

      I hope nobody changes that, sincerely. I really hope that, from the bottom of my heart. If someone was to hunt CEOs for sport, that would be so awful! Oh dear lord I would not want to live in a world where poor innocent CEOs were hunted like dogs.

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        It would be a horribly dystopian twist on Battle Royale / Hunger Games if CEOs of companies found to have caused needless death or suffering, were rounded up and pitted against each other. And televised.

        Nobody should think of that. It’s terrible. Can nobody write that down please.

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        Race doesn’t matter as much once you have enough money and power. Think of Jo Bob from the widget factory and his black friend George. He hates black people but he loves George because he’s One of the Good Ones™️

        Edit- Once I was at a party at a guy I’ve known for a long time’s new house. He was making big money (for us) as a factory supervisor and got to buy a house. He and his wife’s parents are rich but I don’t know if they gave them money or not.

        He’s from out in the country. One of my wife’s friends from high school. He gets drunk and starts talking about how there’s only one black guy working in his division and that guy laughs at the racist jokes and doesn’t care when people say removed.

        Now I’ve ruined people’s time before for very stupid reasons, but this time I had a good one. I loudly told him what he and his employees were doing was racist as fuck and the black dude was going along with being dehumanized because he needed the fucking job. He’s hated me ever since.

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      3 months ago

      I know, right? Some billionaire might jump out of the crowd and try to start some shit. Gotta be ready for them.

  • adaveinthelife@lemmy.ca
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    Dude caused a dip in US GDP, stop acting shocked authorities are making a show of it.

    The second CEOs start considering moving to Canada or UK over the US, the economy is done. It’s already a serious risk due to way more poor people with guns than most other countries.

    • 790@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Dude caused a dip in US GDP

      That seems implausible. Do you have a source for that? or is that just exaggeration?

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      If every single CEO up and left, that would be, on the whole, the single greatest thing to happen for this country. I’d feel sorry for the rest of the world that would have to deal with them, but it would be a giant step foreword for us.

    • LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world
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      The second CEOs start considering moving to Canada or UK over the US, the economy is done.

      Ronald Reagan really did a number on the American brain.

      Those leeches need us far more than we need them.

    • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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      That was my first reaction, but cops make mad overtime. If they are salaried then they are definitely considered “non exempt” which means they can make overtime. Shit like this can let them bill a bunch of overtime hours.

      When I was young I heard several adults say something along the lines of “yeah cops love that overtime”. I thought it meant they worked all the time. Now that I’m in a job where I bill my own hours I get it. They just claim a bunch of overtime for something unusual like this.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zip
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    Well, I mean, it’s Emmanuel Goldstein here.

    You know, the arch nemesis of the Party, the guy in every Two Minutes of Hate?

    Obviously his capture warrants a significant security presence, who knows what he’s capable of.

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      Bullshit take a good look at that photo. Fucking mayor is standing right behind him. If there was any chance of violence or a breakout the fucking mayor wouldn’t be there. This was a publicity stunt.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      It would make more sense that they just killed another CEO on the other side of town when they stationed all these guards to move a CEO killer. Why would you break him out. There are 300 million other CEO killers out there getting trained by governmental failure every day.

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        Pretty sure I’ve read a million comments of people supporting him and stating he deserves to be free and that he’s a modern day Robin Hood, so…yes, there is credibility to that statement lol

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        No idea but online shitposters surely would have a good day seeing it happen.

        Luigi allegedly did the hard work, the least us betas can do is show some mother fucking respect to this giga chad.

        Never forget what Luigi stands for here.

        Health care is a universal right. Politicians avoid it via crooked focus groups.

        Our job is to ensure this issue never goes away until we get proper system in place.