To be fair, other countries want US citizens even less than the US wants* immigrants.
Do people actually think that the US is alone in anti-immigration sentiment? Do they think it’s different because they’re American?
The US is the one with a giant monument to immigration, at whose feet is a plaque that reads:
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
And if they, of all people, are now against that, what makes Americans think anyone else will want them? It’s delusional.
Many countries shut down immigration to Americans in 2016, after the first round of trump’s policies, and they haven’t opened back up yet, partly because there was a solid chance of this happening again.
The US wants immigrants, MAGA doesn’t want immigrants. And I can fully understand anybody not wanting MAGAs. I wish they would evaporate off the face of the Earth.
???
It’s easy as piss to emigrate from America as long as you:
Are white, middle class, not provably disabled, not gay, with no criminal history, with at least one million in assets, as long as you don’t have a history of activism, already are hired by a local company, and have a STEM degree.
See?
Easy.
Hey, that’s not entirely fair. Russia is more than happy to accept Americans, so long as they’re willing to be cannon fodder for a while. I’m pretty sure they’re not even putting an age limit on it. If you survive, you may even get a small flat afterwards. And if you don’t, they may give your parents money for a Lada (providing they were Russian citizens already).
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IMO any American who wants to emigrate to Russia is welcome to become topsoil in Ukraine.
I checked out Canadian requirements. The first stage of screening asks your name, email and year of birth - which only goes back to 1970. So apparently I’m too old.
That number specifically indicates that they’re probably using a positive integer amount of seconds since the epoch (jan 1st, 1970). Rookie mistake.
It’s not much better over here anyways, anti trans laws and oil industry dick sucking is ramping up more than ever.
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UK here, get off our lawn. Transphobia is our chief export.
I’d ask “what have trans people ever done to anyone” but you could ask the same of any minority they harass (Facism needs a target)
What anti trans laws are you refering to? I wasn’t aware of that.
Alberta is about to pass some pretty serious anti-trans legislature that a lot of people are protesting, but we cant really do anything (legally) to stop them
Seems like it’s only going to get worse, too.
I love the assumption that other countries would just take American emigrants.
I’m considering applying for asylum to Ireland
Lol, good luck with that one.
It’s a shit ton harder than people realize… well at least to go anywhere in the industrialized world. Unless you are independently wealthy or have an extremely high demand job.
Billy Bob who’s career is working at McDonalds isn’t going to get approved.
have an extremely high demand job.
I’m banking on this actually. My specialties are, and my wife’s is as well. So I’m reaching out to companies I know with a presence to see what my options are where I’d like to go, and decide from there. I doubt we will be the only ones though, so we’ll see what that ends up looking like.
The only up side is I’m in a very niche specialty with broad experience, have contacts on both sides of the work I do.
I think I’m in a better position than most, and I still think its going to be an uphill battle.
Immigration in most developed countries is stricter than the US. And we all know the US’s immigration restrictions are insane.
Canada’s gonna swing the same way next year so you’re not really escaping from anything anyways
Already swung super anti-immigration as of earlier this year, so the move to Canada plan isn’t going to be as easy either
But I’m one of the good ones!
Do you think that this is an import from the US kind of thing, or more of a global trend?
Definitely seems like a global trend.
Yeah the Trump win is only gonna help conservatives…I really hate them and their leader, but Trudeau has shit the bed for so long that people are just sick of him
The Liberals are admittedly a stale 3 day old cheap deli sandwich. People want something warm, fresh, and organic. Conservatives check all of those boxes.
Too bad it’s horseshit.
Skippy will axe the carbon tax which honestly will make people like him enough to ignore some of the… other things he will do. That will lower prices of everything, maybe not to the levels of the beforetime because corpos won’t let that free profit disappear but it will make life easier for many.
Removing the carbon tax won’t appreciably lower the price of anything for any amount of time. It won’t make life easier for average Canadians because the average Canadian gets that money back. We’ll have the same prices, the same unachievable cost of living, but with fewer social supports.
The free market has never once chosen morality over profit. Year after year we’ve proven we can suffer through it, so there is no motivation to change.
Canada is just america but 5-10 years behind on the crazy policies. It really isn’t any better and cost of living is often higher than in america.
This is simply not true. Did America have universal medicine 5-10 years ago? Subsidized education? Abortion and trans rights? Refugee policies? The only country in America attempting to highlight the genocide in Gaza?
Seems to me americans love to say Canada is americas retarded cousin (quoting tucker carlson) because it makes them feel better, but it’s simply not true.
Our society isnt exactly the same as America’s but it does seem to mirror it a little more every year. For example we are on the brink of losing our public healthcare and some provinces are attacking trans rights. Canada has also been exporting arms to Israel during the genocide.
Fascism is growing. Saying we are america 5-10 years behind is stupid. I didnt say canada wasnt exporting arms, i said it’s the only one publicly calling out the problem.
This garabge of “well we still send arms” with 0 nuance is why assholes like Trump get elected. Gtfo out canada you arent helping
I remember that being said by the Hitlers (normal people but had the no longer so nice last name) about changing last name.
If only they had stuck with it, who would have thought Hitler would come back in style again?
https://www.newsweek.com/hitler-had-some-good-ideas-american-poll-1980293
Well, then kick him out. Or maybe guillotine him out, so that he doesn’t return.
Like, if people were actually that irked that he won, they’d be doing something. But no, from what I hear El Trumpo actually won the popular vote: the US wants to be fascist. Maybe Canada too. (No, not as in the US wants to be Canada… although that’d be an improvement…)
I’m concerned that there is no doubt this is what America wants.
…What, being like Canada? 👀
Well, it’s more like 15 million people didn’t vote that voted in the last election. Lots of reasons for that 15m, but there was definitely an effort to create pathetic non-voters
Which means 15m people don’t mind being fascists, which functionally is the same as they actively want to be fascists.
But hey at least they don’t want to be Canada… I guess?I know it’s easy to say that they don’t mind being fascists but I’ve been talking to a lot of relatives and I believe it’s more of a mix of being misinformed, passionate and then on top of that disadvantaged. Resulting in a type of apathy that allows them to stand by.
They don’t register the threat the way you and I might, just like in Germany they will fold into the fascist party all the same.
In Germany they had a name for these kind of people, it was still Nazi.
So far, it’s only been his supporters trying to kill him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At least we’ll always have the ironic laugh at how the US, a country with guns for everyone, didn’t even get a tin medal in shooting the Olympics, and how the US, a country with the 2nd Amendment, can’t even kill a tyrant right.
If it gets bad I actually will move to Canada, I’m a dual citizen
Hey there sailor.
Wanna get gay married?
Send me up to the ISS. I’ll keep the dudes stranded up there company until this whole thing blows over. And if WW3 happens, I’ll be safe.
Don’t move here. We have a bad enough housing crisis without a bunch of Americans showing up to take up homes and jobs. Stay in your country and fix your damn mess
You’re right, you’re right.
That’s why the Northern states should just secceed and join Canada.
Americans can Welcome the new candian overlXmas?
Is it true that every citizen gets maple syrup for xmas?
You can outlive this. There’s a good chance he can’t. Be strong, and look out for those more vulnerable than yourself.
Thank you for this. It’s more helpful than you know.
My concern is that the train is still running at full speed even if the driver has died of a heart attack.
I’ve been looking for silver linings. The two I’ve found are:
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Trump probably won’t live to see the end of his term. Dude is old and not exactly healthy. One could argue Vance taking his place would be worse, but I’m choosing to focus on the positives here.
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Trump winning very likely prevented a civil war. I know a ton of people who had been stocking up on supplies and weapons. Again, one could argue giving these people the keys to the kingdom probably wasn’t the smartest move, but again I’m trying to focus on the positives.
Agreed on both points. The second means today is safer although Project 2025 spells danger ahead.
As for Trump, his physical deterioration and dementia and just general chaos of intentions are more of a check on him accomplishing evil than anything legal or political. When he runs the economy completely off the rails will it spark anything in the midterms? Will his Cabinet change every week? How long until he “never met” Elon?
So we draw breath, and persevere.
ROFL
Trump didn’t prevent civil war. Think back to what happened after the Jan 6 insurrection. When they failed to stop Biden’s certification by valiantly committing minor vandalism and taking selfies, MAGA ominously promised that vague “actions” would occur in state capitals on his inauguration day. That day came and went, and the few “actions” that even happened had attendance in the dozens - mostly pathetic loners holding cardboard signs in the rain. The fired-up revolutionaries saw their freedom-fighting heroes methodically tracked down by the FBI and arrested, so instead of a civil war uprising they stayed home and posted angy tirades on Parler.
Contrast this with any real cause, like the BLM marches, which saw thousands of people show up week after week, in city after city, in spite of police beatdowns, arrests, and even some deaths. The difference is personal commitment. MAGAs are great at making loud noises, but when they’re faced with the prospect of individual risk, most of them just hide in their freedom bunkers and shake their tiny fists at the TV. That bunch of blowhards will stock up on survival rations and tactical desert boots, but they couldn’t civil war their way out of a Walmart.
I think he’s the devil and he’ll never die. I wouldn’t count on him dying. In my experience really poisonous people live a long time.
He is basically line for line the biblical antichrist. That’s infinitely funny to me.
this is honestly the thing that’s getting me to question my atheism.
I mean the Antichrist loses so you go that going for you I guess
Hey, quit shitting on my silver lining. I choose to believe he’ll die soon due to Macdonald’s induced heart failure and you can’t take that hope away from me!
It’s not like there was an assassination attempt during his rise to power and he survived with a headwound or anything like that, right?
Maybe the left will start the civil war. Then again, they wouldn’t even get out to vote, so.
The right was unified behind their belief that the election was stolen from Trump, and wanted him put back in power.
The left can’t agree on leadership at all, and doesn’t think this election was any more stolen than it was in 2000/2016.
Wow. Chamberlin’s ghost is shocked at that level of appeasement and cowardice.
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That’s just it, I’m a white male, I know I’ll be comparatively fine. It’s not really me I’m worried about.
Oh boy, President JD ‘couch enthusiast’ Vance!
Sure, but there’s also half of your countrymen to think about
True. Trump does not hold a monopoly on suck.
But he does have a monopoly on his fan base. Hopefully the hamburder in his veins requires a scramble for a new king and none of his court can agree who should have the crown and the crowd rejects them anyway.
Like 20% at best, the shitlibs have this coming.
Safety?
Draft dodging?
Jokes on you, I’m too fat and mentally ill to be in the military anyways.
Yes, the joke is clearly on me.
