Meanwhile the East doesn’t even think about this unlike the still-developing West with it’s DST concept
Sure he does, becsuse all time-measuring devices of any sort in his house are analogue and have to be changed manually, and none them have phones which automatically corrects the time.
So in essences they have some clocks in theirs houses which are off by an hour for four months a year. They still use the time everyone else uses, because that’s how time works.
Digital clocks were a thing long before the internet.
Digital in sense of how they displayed time, sure, but not digital in how they update it. Not connected.
Not online. Offline clocks, I should’ve said.
Who would think digital clocks are newer than the Internet wth
Oh, sure they are. The one I’m using has been around for 50 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCF77
Half the clocks sold here do support it, and even many “analog” (as in the clock face) ones.
Source?
With the amount of idiots online, I have no idea if this is sarcasm or a genuine request.
I’ve never seen an idiot online. Source?
You can pretty easily disable automatic daylight savings time adjustments on most devices, even my car has the option.
Aye you can. But I just don’t believe in a whole family pretending to live in a different time than everybody else’s for 4 months.
I do believe in lazy shits who don’t manage to change all the clocks which don’t get automatically updated, but for that person to actually put in effort to dodge the DLT? Not believable imo. You’d have to be really fucking obstinate.
I’m just going to use UTC, nothing is going to stop me, my neighbors? Get fucked learn to convert.
Fuck it, I’m going to pick a timezone on Mars and live by that. Bam, extra half hour every day! You can’t control me, Earth’s spin!
Daylight Saving…
you can also just wake up earlier and you magically save daylight. It’s almost like winter has different sun cycles to the summer or something. What a fascinating concept.
Props to this man. Animals don’t follow daylight savings and it’s easier to keep a farm on standard time.
No, daylight savings was not invented for farmers
That’s a lot of words to say he’s too lazy to change the clocks
“Excuse me sir on the tractor, what time is it?”
“It’s who gives a fuck o’clock, city boy.”
The only times of day I know are dawn, morning, noon, afternoon, evening, dusk, and night. 24 hours are way more than you need.
They always used to claim daylight savings was for farmers, even though farmers are probably the people in society who least have to follow the same daily schedule as anyone else.
You can blame this fuck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hudson_(entomologist) He wanted more time to look at bugs after work.
The rationale I heard in the northern U.S. was that kids would have to wait for or walk home from the school bus in the dark. It doesn’t really make sense, but that’s not an issue apparently.
So they set it up so that the sun goes down even earlier the season with less sunlight?
It seems to me like the sun going down an hour earlier is the last thing we need when winter comes.
they have to get up and go to school in the dark now down here in the midwest, so idk about that one.
In a same world they would just get to school earlier and leave earlier - that’s all DST effectively does while adding a heaping helping of absolute insanity.
In summer, we have about 15 hours of daylight and 9 hours of night. In winter, we have about 9 hours of daylight, and 15 hours of night. In summer, on standard time, we get about 3 more hours of daylight in the morning, and 3 more hours of daylight in the evening than we do in winter.
Suppose you use a constant schedule year round, and set your alarm clock to wake you 30 minutes before sunrise in the middle of winter. If you kept that same alarm into summer, you would be sleeping through the first 2.5 hours of daylight.
DST “saves” one of those morning hours, by shifting the clock forward. Relative to standard (winter) time, you add 2 hours of daylight in the morning, and 4 in the evening, instead of 3 and 3. Switching to DST (theoretically) minimizes disruption to our morning schedule.
I think we should focus on the evening instead of the morning. The evenings are where the overwhelming majority of us are free of work, school, and other obligations. Our mornings belong to bosses and teachers; The evenings are our time for home and family, rest and recreation.
If we are going to change times, we should reverse the time change. Instead of “falling back”, we should skip forward in November, minimizing disruption to our evenings instead of their mornings. Imagine winter sunsets at 6:30 PM instead of 4:30PM. Imagine the kids being able to play outdoors for two more hours after school than they currently get.
Alternatively, (and preferably) we should just stay on “Summer” time year round.
It also makes dealing with dates even more complicated in programming, especially when you have to check whether an event/person is in somewhere like Arizona that doesn’t do DST (besides the Navajo Nation…)
I watched a documentary on it, it was actually a war thing. Back then many factories didn’t have lights so they could adjust to the sun easier using DST.
It was only implemented during WWI and WWII until sometime in the sixties when it became permanent.
I always thought it was for office workers and was essentially a green energy program. I’ve never heard an argument that it had anything to do with farmers, especially since farmers set their schedule by dawn and dusk.
You laugh but there’s a thing called “farm time” that’s exactly this and has been a thing in the rural Midwest in various places. I remember visiting my grandmother in Indiana as a kid and they had it there out in the middle of fuck-off nowhere.
Depending on how long ago you were a kid, that could’ve just been because Indiana as a state didn’t start observing DST until 2006, rural or not
Wasn’t there a bill recently to get rid of DST, and it got stalled in Congress or something?
There was a provincial bill in BC, Canada to stop the change that passed but it had no date to take effect since they wanted to sync with west coast states. It’s like enough people want to change but no one will be the first one so it’s not too awkward.
I thought the news was that it was going to happen, but I haven’t kept up.
I found this from earlier this year…so, yeah, basically stalled in Congress.
That’s what I do with the automated cat feeders. Cats do not observe daylight savings time.
I kept my Kindle on UK time so that when I wake up in the middle of the night I can read a bit and have no idea how long there is to my alarm going off, which I hate knowing.
To be fair, cats don’t observe any rules.
They set rules for their subjects to follow.
Seems like a pretty reasonable course for a farmer to take. Livestock don’t have clocks, after all.
Wasn’t daylight savings time designed specifically for this man?
Daylight Saving Time. No second S.
It’s a common myth that farmers want daylight savings, but farmers are actually usually quite opposed to it. Daylight savings was originally proposed as a way to conserve energy, but it wasn’t put into practice until the world wars, where energy conservation was actually important.
No. Cows need milking at the same time of day every day regardless of how humans fuck with the clock.
Yeah, but they are able to adapt to it too.
They eventually do, but it can take several weeks and a noticeable amount of lost production and hence income. Growing up on a dairy farm, switching back and forth sucked for the cows and the rest of the livestock.
Farmers as a rule dislike DST. And I still do.
Who still needs to change their clock manually? Even my 12hr analog clock adjusts itself automatically.
I have four:
- wall clock - battery powered, no date function
- oven - not “smart,” nor do I want it to be smart
- two cars - they’re old enough to not have smart features
Changing them isn’t an issue, and I often don’t get to it for a few days because I rarely actually use them. But it still pisses me off way more than it should.
I have a number of clocks that still need to be changed manually. A few wall clocks, the one on the oven, one in the car, etc.
Every appliance in my house (with a clock anyway) and all of our clocks (2 analog, 2 digital) require manual changing. None of them are connected to the internet, which I would think is the only way they would be able to. Do they really make “smart” analog clocks now?
Some have some kind of date tracking built in. But it’s fairly rare.
I feel like mechanical clocks to account for daylight savings this would be a bit off after one or two leap years; could be doable but a bit complicated to design? Kinda fun to think about
I mean they would be, but that would still be much less clock-changing to do.
Definitely. I’m still going to spend time fascinated by the idea of the gearing and clockwork to make a clock that tracks year/month/day and accounts for leap years.
I’d be more than okay with permanent standard time, myself.
Radio controlled clocks exist. Not everything needs to be connected to the internet.
Ah, I forgot Atomic (radio) clocks existed. My parents used to have one of those over a decade ago, but I always saw them as more of a novelty. Not saying they’re not valid, just uncommon IMO.
Ok but hes actually got it backwards. Standard time is those four months in winter, and we use daylight savings time during the summer.
True. But depending on where on earth you are located and what time zone that location follows, DST is closer to the real Solar Time (12 o’clock is Solar noon). Like Poland follows CEST but in the eastern part of the country the Solar time is close to an hour ahead. So DST is more in sync to the actual natural time.
CE(S)T reaches all the way to Finisterre in (Spanish) Galicia, well past Greenwich, which should be one hour behind, so basically at least 3 times zones. I blame Hitler.
Franco, actually.
Both to be pedantic. Hitler put France on it, Franco decided that the fascist world should share a time zone.
Universal Fascist Time. Don’t tell Trump.
Which is why I specify tz database timezones, like “America/New York”. Pick the one that’s the city closest to you and will be on the same daylight savings time switchover dates. Then don’t worry about specifying EST or EDT or whatever.
