Tbf people don’t usually go out of their way to shoot nice people.
Yeah they do. MLK, Kennedy, Lincoln, Reagan… MOST of the time the person is nice.
One of those things is not like the other… 🤔
A reverend, a catholic, a bearded man, and a demon
He was still “nice” as far as presidents go. Even Lincoln himself was a bit of an overreacher.
Like, polite? Maybe. He was certainly not kind.
What did he do?
Ignored HIV, gutted school funding, illegally sold arms to Iran to fund the Sandinistas, fired 11k air traffic controllers, started the culture wars…
There’s much more, but that’s a start
You’ve not met m(any) US cops, I take it?
I’m still alive.
Yeah, like MLK! Wait…I think your premise may be flawed.
Well considering how many regular people get shot, yes…there definitely are flaws, however I did use conditional language “usually”, so you’d have to get in the weeds to judge who gets deliberately shot and if they were nice or not.
Tbf, I still call it into question. Technically “usually” people shoot themselves, 20,000 more times yearly than someone shoots another person. All of my friends who have killed themselves were actually some of the best people, of course this empirical evidence doesn’t mean that everyone who shoots themselves is well liked, but in my case it’s never the ones you’d wish would (figuratively, it’d be cool if nobody did it) it’s always the ones that make you sad.
Furthermore by a large margin most of our homicides are gang/drug related, and while the Crips may hate the Bloods, they do like the other crips and their family members like them too and such, so it isn’t as if they’re universally hated, but more like most people they’re hated by some and loved by others, “controversial” if you will. Sorta like MLK, or Trump. Some love 'em, some hate 'em.
Furtherevenmore? Furthermost? The next largest category can be described as “crimes of passion” which is usually a spouse or business partner. Typically the “liked” one is the victim (perhaps unsurprisingly, those that would stoop to spousal killing aren’t so likeable.)
And at some level in there depending on where you source your stats is self defense, which involves necessity rather than likability by definition.
My premise was that someone goes out of their way to shoot someone else, so suicide is right out based on that criteria.
The rest I’m not really thinking is worth our time to quibble over semantics and we probably don’t want to get in the weeds about statistics.
For instance the gang members - yes, you need to “go out of your way” to hop in a car and go do a drive-by shooting. But now we get to the people being shot at. Do you consider the gang members being shot at “bad people”? That right there is a deep dive into social stigma, poverty, prejudice, and a whole discussion about personal views and the lives of the people being shot at. Then what if the shooter hits an innocent bystander? Some are perfectly willing to suggest that anyone hanging out with gang members, even if not a member themselves, is by default not a good person. Guilty by association, as it were? Maybe the gang banger was well liked in the neighborhood…still a bad guy?
How about the crime of passion…if there’s a gun in the house and there has been domestic violence in the past, but this time someone uses the gun and shoots the other, is that still “going out of the way” to shoot them? What do we know about whether they’re good people or not?
Self defense isn’t going you of your way to shoot someone at all. That’s usually to stop an immediate threat.
So… all those kids in all those schools?
You’re going to make me debate what “usual” is for shootings in the US. That’s a grim one.
Sadly, it’s usual.
It’s likely to have the opposite effect in this case.
i hope he thinks about how he was 2 inches away from death every time he’s out in public pushing for violence
He’s too narcissistic for that.
Chances are he’ll believe what his Jesus followers are saying and think that Jesus DID actually save him because he’s the chosen one
No, people with NPD are constantly haunted by their mistakes, failures, and anxieties. Trump is an asshole because he’s neurotypical.
Neurotypical? He’s a narcissist at best, and a full-blown sociopath at worst.
I don’t think you know anything about psychiatry, seeing as you’re using the name of a fake disorder. Sociopathy isn’t really in the DSM, it’s not a mental disorder. It’s fake. You’ve been hoodwinked. It’s just Greek for socially ill person. You know, like autism. So forgive me for thinking you don’t know what you’re talking about when you say Trump has autism.
Why don’t you whip out the ol DSM and read about antisocial personality disorder? Call it psychopathy, or sociopathy, or APD. A rose by any other name.
Call it psychopathy, or sociopathy
I’m not going to do that, because I don’t call disabilities by slurs. I typically use the actual names of the disabilities instead.
Wow, you’re so clever you couldn’t even go to wiki for one second. Sociopathy is, in fact, real and refers to Antisocial Personality Disorder.
Ohhhhhhh. Okay, I understand now. You were using a controversial slur to refer to a disorder whose actual name you full well know. Sorry, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and starting from the assumption you didn’t hate disabled people. I understand now.
You were using a controversial slur to refer to a disorder whose actual name you full well know.
Don’t worry, much like sociopathy the current term will eventually also become a slur and need to be renamed again. This is the way of such things - so long as the thing is seen as something negative, the term for being/having that thing will take on a negative connotation over time. Several rounds of this is why the language has become so wordy and bloodless - if it’s enough of a pain to repeat in full every time it takes longer for it to become a slur.
That would require him to believe in Jesus.
if i got almost shot in the head i’d probably quit and do something else instead 🤔
Can confirm, you don’t even need to be shot in the head. It can be in the thigh.
Apparently, he was too busy playing golf to reach out to any of the other folks who got shot.
saw on r/conservatism, “Trump will undoubtedly pay for that person’s funural.” Ha, yeah fucking right!?
The greatest builder in the world still hasn’t erected any structure for his wife’s grave.
The funny thing is that none of her children [Ivanka, Don Jr, and little Eric] could be bothered to do something. All have resources of their own.
little Eric
lol
Hey now, my governor said Eric Trump changed a tire like a big boy!
Have I mentioned that I hate my governor, and also that I was not surprised at all that he had his bulldog with him for the RNC speech? Still can’t believe he got it added to a fucking historical mural.
she knows what she signed up for
The funny thing is that back in the 1980s she was the star of the show and Donnie was the stooge who carried her bag. She was a world class skier and knew how to work a room.
She has a brief cameo in ‘The First Wives’ Club’ where she tells the stars to get all they can out of their husbands.
IDK. If you actually hit, he’ll never do anything bad anymore for the rest of his life.
His cronies might though. What if this dumbass thought he would actually make him a martyr to make his cause stronger. Who am I kidding. They aren’t that smart.
I mean, it makes him more relatable to school children.
savage
If you get shot in the asshole, then depending on the calibre you potentially could be more of an asshole.
He didn’t get shot, he got hit by glass according to the secret service.
I won’t shed any tears for Trump if and when he bites the dust, but it would’ve been far worse if the assassination was successful. It’s not like the far right and Project 2025 would just disappear with Trump, not to mention guys like JD Vance are quite capable of taking his place and with less baggage.
Nah with how centralised the Republican effort is around Trump atm killing him would throw them into disarray for multiple years until they were able to summon up a similarly charismatic demagouge which outside of trump they simply don’t have atm.
Part of me thinks the MAGA enthusiasm is a personality cult about Trump and can’t be replicated. But you may be right about Republicans being capable of carrying his agenda post-Trump.
It changes the ass to hole ratio though.
Hitler survived at least 42 assassination attempts according to Wikipedia. Just saying.
At the end, he couldn’t survive his own.
What a hero he was, fukken killed Hitler the mad lad!
It’s infuriating that people have forgotten about how utterly horrid trump was as president. From disbanding the NSC pandemic unit which led to a bungled COVID response, pretending COVID was no big deal (leading to hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths compared to other leading economies), crashing the economy leading to massive inflation by running it hot and gutting tax revenues (the Economist was warning about this in 2018), and of course leading an insurrection against the United States. HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR THIS TURD?!?!?!?
LMAO he’s gonna be your president soon.
HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR THIS TURD?!?!?!?
America is the most propagandized country on earth.
Russia, North Korea and China would like a word with you.
KGB and CIA agents are sharing drinks at a bar.
CIA turns to KGB and says, “I’ve got to hand it to you. The Russians have some of the best propagandists in the business. I’m always amazed at what you can convince people to believe.”
KGB smiles wryly and retorts, “Ah, but nobody is better at telling lies than the Americans. You’ve got your whole country fooled.”
The CIA agent spits out his drink and turns to his Russian counterpart, “What are you talking about? There’s no propaganda in America.”
The KGB agent breaks out laughing.
I’m actually amazed Biden was too stupid to run ads reminding people of THIS!
“But Covid isn’t a big deal and inflation is Obiden’s fault”
- my family, definitely
He doesn’t show anyone any empathy so no point in me doing so.
Historically, more often than not, when a narcissistic megalomaniac is victim of a close call of targeted violence against them, rather than them becoming more empathetic with the sadly large swathe of humanity that also often faces targeted violence, they just double down on their own paranoia.
Of course Morpheus says that as his shades reflect Neo being held at gunpoint.
But that’s in the Matrix
We’re all in the Matrix.
It does if the shooter could hit the broad side of a barn
~150 yards, wobbling target, small window of opportunity, and multiple well-trained counter-snipers lining you up, and you have to hit the head.
I’d say the guy made a hell of a shot.
