My premise was that someone goes out of their way to shoot someone else, so suicide is right out based on that criteria.
The rest I’m not really thinking is worth our time to quibble over semantics and we probably don’t want to get in the weeds about statistics.
For instance the gang members - yes, you need to “go out of your way” to hop in a car and go do a drive-by shooting. But now we get to the people being shot at. Do you consider the gang members being shot at “bad people”? That right there is a deep dive into social stigma, poverty, prejudice, and a whole discussion about personal views and the lives of the people being shot at. Then what if the shooter hits an innocent bystander? Some are perfectly willing to suggest that anyone hanging out with gang members, even if not a member themselves, is by default not a good person. Guilty by association, as it were? Maybe the gang banger was well liked in the neighborhood…still a bad guy?
How about the crime of passion…if there’s a gun in the house and there has been domestic violence in the past, but this time someone uses the gun and shoots the other, is that still “going out of the way” to shoot them? What do we know about whether they’re good people or not?
Self defense isn’t going you of your way to shoot someone at all. That’s usually to stop an immediate threat.
My premise was that someone goes out of their way to shoot someone else, so suicide is right out based on that criteria.
The rest I’m not really thinking is worth our time to quibble over semantics and we probably don’t want to get in the weeds about statistics.
For instance the gang members - yes, you need to “go out of your way” to hop in a car and go do a drive-by shooting. But now we get to the people being shot at. Do you consider the gang members being shot at “bad people”? That right there is a deep dive into social stigma, poverty, prejudice, and a whole discussion about personal views and the lives of the people being shot at. Then what if the shooter hits an innocent bystander? Some are perfectly willing to suggest that anyone hanging out with gang members, even if not a member themselves, is by default not a good person. Guilty by association, as it were? Maybe the gang banger was well liked in the neighborhood…still a bad guy?
How about the crime of passion…if there’s a gun in the house and there has been domestic violence in the past, but this time someone uses the gun and shoots the other, is that still “going out of the way” to shoot them? What do we know about whether they’re good people or not?
Self defense isn’t going you of your way to shoot someone at all. That’s usually to stop an immediate threat.