That apostrophe and two Ls are doing a lot of heavy lifting.
Will you do those things, Joe? Or will you try to, get foiled by Congress, attempt to do something within your power and then get foiled by the Supreme Court?
Maybe don’t say things like that until you’ve got a filibuster-proof hold of Congress. And even then it’ll get watered down.
So you don’t want him to say anything until after the election, and only if he has a supermajority? That’s not how campaigning works.
“I will do my best to push for” is perfectly acceptable and also shows he has basic civics knowledge.
I am a firm believer that overpromising and underdelivering is what hurts voter turnout the most.
I don’t think “I will do what Congress permits” is a particularly good campaign promise, even if it’s the most honest thing he can say.
How about “get me a double majority in Congress and I’ll”…
If only Dark Brandon was real.
Can’t do much if the majority rule is blocking all of that.
You can stop promising things you don’t have control over.
Easy solution to this constant nagging problem would be ending the filibuster.
Yeah, I’m sure there was no way to either pressure Sinema and/or replace the parlementarian when Congress had the chance to do this.
But can make empty promises
He should be getting in front of a camera every day and saying “here’s what we’re trying to do. Here’s why it helps you/society. And here are the assholes standing in the way”. And if those assholes are Democrats, kick them out of the party and support a better candidate to run against them.
It wouldn’t matter. It wouldn’t get coverage in half the media in the country. And most people don’t even watch the media, anyway. It’ll be bullshit stories and anti-liberal memes as per usual.
Yes! This is what strong leadership looks like. We haven’t seen it from POTUS in far too long.
When did he try and congress blocked it?
March 2021
Don’t make promises you can’t keep. Especially, if people will take you up on these promises.
I’m very confused. The president can’t know the composition of Congress during the campaign because all of the Reps are on the same ballot as the president. Are you saying prospective candidates should always say “If I’m elected and we have the house and Senate I will…” to cover their asses? I think most people understand those ramifications.
A simple modifier like “I’ll push for…” would have covered his ass a lot.
Not to cover their asses, but to push more people to vote not just for them, but for their party all down the ticket.
I think “most” people do NOT understand those ramifications. Maybe 33% of the population does, 33% think and want the president to be a dictator, and 34% don’t pay attention to anything at all.
Failure to pay attention in civics class cannot possibly be the fault of a presidential candidate.
Also, presidents and presidential candidates do a ton of campaigning for both their own candidacy as well as for down ballot candidates in an effort to achieve these things. They’re only advertising their intentions and priorities. That’s your it has worked since the beginning of American democracy
Yeah but making promises abojt things you’ll do as President, that you can’t do as President, is the fault of a Presidential candidate.
Sure, OP is demonstrating that quite clearly, although as usual the goal is just to bash Biden (as if Trump would do any of this).
Derp, what’s a legislative branch?
that sub-minimum wage really hurts right about now
This will be unpopular:
Before or at the same time as we fix sub-minimum wage, we need to also address the disability benefits cliff. I personally know multiple disabled people that limit how much they are working so that they don’t hit the cutoff where all the benefits disappear, not tail off. Generally these people enjoy their work and are capable of working more, but if they earn a dollar too much, they are screwed, loosing access to a number of subsidies and medical care.
Why would that be unpopular
For some reason there’s a lot of hate for disabled poeple. It’s like poeple view them as a ugly drain on society. I had a guy tell me to my face disabled poeple should be dead. Source: husband is disabled.
The fuck type of people are you talking to? I guarantee you there are way more people who want to help the disabled that kill them. Not saying this didn’t happen, but holy shit that’s crazy.
Economically it’s cheaper to help the disabled than to ignore them. It’s just makes 0 sense to force them into a situation where they’re not taken care of until they create a massive medical bill.
Oh yeah I know it’s cheaper to help the disabled, but y’know 'murica. As for who said that too me, it was a coworker.
Your coworker is a shitty person.
My little brother dealt with that on his SSI and it is total bullshit. He couldn’t work past like 15 or 20 hours a week or they’d take all of his benefits away. They need to either make them tail off slowly or move that cliff back to like $200k/yr.
It is positively evil in my opinion to implement helping laws with cutoffs like this.
Any time we make a scenario where more work equals less results for people, that’s a violation of their right to a navigable environment.
Nature doesn’t create scenarios like that. So our brains didn’t evolve for it. Only well-meaning fools make scenarios like that, trying to “help”.
Better a person never be picked up at all, than to be picked up and dropped.
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I recently read an article describing how when disabled people have too much in their savings accounts or try to pay off outstanding debts, they are ordered to repay years worth of benefits. We can fix this! Peer-reviewed study after per-reviewed study (in theory and practice) has shown it costs less to just do the right things and look after each other (whether we think it’s deserved/earned/insert other term here) or not. We can fix it. It’s a matter of rolling up our sleeves and consistently apply pressure in proper spaces.
Direct action, mutual aid in the meantime. For everyone.
Also the fact they aren’t allowed to save up money. I think it’s like $2k saved up and they get cut off. That’s not even enough for first last and security deposit if they wanted to try and move to a better situation.
Banned from the news communities so they take their propaganda to other ones where people might not know them. A majority of people don’t like Biden, he’s hit an all time low in popularity. You on the other hand have an anti Biden agenda. Hopefully mods of other communities catch on. Tired of calling out this bs in every thread.
You know I used to feel this way too about that user. But when you start looking at their posts, you’ll notice they just post a shit ton of stuff all over the place. I think it’s less targeted than you think it is. The vast majority of their posts are innocuous and just plain news based.
If they have a bias, well so do most of us. If they’re using absurd sources that’d be one thing I guess, they’re not however. They’re mostly posting mainstream news articles or direct Tweets in this case. That’s not against the rules. If you don’t like what they’re posting just downvote it and move on.
I just always thought the upvote and downvote buttons sorted posts out. There’s been a few very vocal users on here that really hate whenever I post any news that’s critical of the Biden administration. I’ve received DM death threats over the posts. I just don’t understand it because all anyone that posts does is just paste a URL and post it. It’s not like I wrote the articles.
He openly admitted his bias and agenda. Now after getting banned he’s trying to cover more things to make it not so obvious.
A simple look at their Post history shows that they’ve always posted in a variety of communities. It’s simply not true what you’re saying. When having a conversation about undue bias being intellectually dishonest really hurts your credibility.
First, a variety of communities is not the same as the same as solely anti Biden content. Second, I’m just saying what the mods said (and what he admitted himself), I’m not investigating it myself.
I’m not sure if you read my comment right because that had nothing to do with what I said, or even what you said in the previous comment.
They got banned for being anti-Biden?
they were biased so politics and other comms hate to do the right thing and ban them
His bias was saying he looked for negative Biden news. Which would have been perfectly okay if a republican
Afaik he was banned for spamming (as in an absolute crap ton) anti Biden content. I believe the mods said “go outside and touch grass”.
Specifically accurate content that was anti-biden, but he got a temporary ban for flat out saying he was intentionally only posting anti-biden content
My issue isn’t the sources. The issue is we vote in a 2 party system. You can be critical all you want of a candidate, but at the end of the day you only have 2 real choices. A vote for third party is essentially not voting and that only hurts one of two parties. We saw what happens when people protest vote. So when 90% of the posts someone make are against one of two candidates and ignores obvious flaws in the system that lead to a lot of the criticism someone is posting it’s no longer just being critical. It’s an active campaign to dissuade people from voting for 1 of 2 candidates. When you only have 2 options and you are so adamantly against one you are pushing people to vote for the other.
If you start Banning people because the majority of their posts, or not even a majority just a number, are critical of a singular candidate I think you’d be banning a lot of users who post anti-trump stuff. I might be among them.
Also there is no rule that says I have to constantly be making post that talk about the flaws of a system that is in no way a reasonable stance to take. What’s posted is content. That content might be about flaws of the system, but the idea that we have to post certain topics to meet a certain threshold to be allowed to post is absurd. I’ve never posted a single link about the flaws of the system. Should I be banned? Have you?
All I said was I hope other mods catch on to the very obvious anti Biden agenda. I’m not pushing for them to be ban everywhere idk why everyone is focusing so hard on that point. It was bad enough they weren’t allowed to post in news communist anymore, and now it’s flowing into other communities.
You on the other hand have an anti Biden agenda. Hopefully mods of other communities catch on. Tired of calling out this bs in every thread.
Sounds like you want mods to prohibit him from posting.
A simple look at their Post history will show you that they have always posted in a variety of communities and this is not a new phenomenon. I would also again Ask Why having an agenda or a biased matters. Most of us do clearly. This is an aggregator website. We just post content, there is no duty to being biased free in our posts. That a number of a person’s post hold a bias, not even all or even a majority of said posts, is irrelevant. Someone should not be banned because you don’t like what they say.
Hell I’m only on this site because I was banned from Reddit for saying the only place a fascist belong is hanging from a gas station. Cuz Reddit admins are super Pro Nazis.
If I wanted to protest vote, I’d write in Mickey Mouse or something silly like that. I vote Green because I believe in the candidates.
Which rule are they breaking or just want being anti Biden to be against the rules?
News and politics made a new rule that it’s fine to post negative articles, but when it’s all you post about one politician multiple times a day they consider it propaganda and pushing an agenda. The mod team has a better explanation than me but that’s the basic gist
Only on world and only to be able to remove anti Biden posting.
Notice were on white people twitter
Yes almost like that was my entire point. Can’t post there so they moved to other communities
Your point is wanting them to be banned everywhere because you don’t like them posting biden stuff
No my point is they have a very obvious agenda. Being critical of Biden is fine. They aren’t critical of any other Dems just Biden. They don’t offer solutions, just anti Biden. They don’t talk about how first past the post voting is why we are stuck with candidates we dont like. It’s like 40x anti Biden posts a day. We get it they don’t like Biden, I don’t either, but you don’t see me making it my job to shit on him every chance I get . His approval is dropping below 30% so a majority doesn’t like him, but it’s what we’ve got currently.
Still boils down to wanting them banned from every instance because they keep pointing out valid flaws in Biden which dnc has ignored for years.
Also news subs banned a different user that was doing what you said should be done so forgive me for thinking that would change anything.
It’s literally a tweet about Biden’s campaign promises from Biden himself.
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So, when the Democrats were handing out punch, you said “Thanks, I’ll take the whole bowl.”
Biden isn’t a king. Again I am not a fan of him either but let’s not pretend that he can just snap his fingers and make these things happen. He’ll need support of the house and senate, which we know isn’t likely. I don’t see any critical posts about the voting system in America from you which would actually allow you to vote for someone you liked. It’s just anti Biden.
Poor Biden, he would actually do something about this agenda, but then the republicans might yell at him. Sorry kiddo, nothing he can do - vote harder next time lul
What’s funny is you think you’re being edgy and sarcastic, but you just stumbled into the right answer.
Not sure it’s just anti-Biden but people do need to understand on matters like this, they need to mentally apply an asterisk that says “subject to approval by Congress.”
Don’t know why you’re being downbeaned, you’re 100% correct
Same, all the anti Biden propaganda is embarrassing for Lemmy.
Minimum Wage = $1 an hour. Maximum Wage = $30 (for underwater welders in shark infested water, celebrities and pro athletes)
Leaders get reviewed by their subordinates. Wouldn’t hurt to start over at zero either so it’s a fair game. I don’t like to play cards with cheaters.
I don’t know about those minimums. We already fight needles wars to extract others necessary resources, sell them back to them for maximum profits, while also getting them to overspend on stuff that has no practical value, in order to make things a little less expensive for our working class so billionaire and corporate overlords can maximize profit. The general gist of your idea is valid.
TL;dr the whole world is also us and we would do well to remember that.
If I’ve learned anything from video game design, it is much easier to balance smaller numbers. You’d have to be careful to figure out the most amount of some small basic staple you’d need and ensure that it wouldn’t have to cost less than 1 cent per unit, however, before setting your minimum value.
Of course, picking the value of your own local currency without regard to its value on the global market isn’t really feasible.
Healthcare shouldn’t be a benefit. It should be a fucking right!
It will never happen if we keep giving Republicans power in Congress and the Executive.
It is in most of the civilised world
Bernie ran against this clown with exactly that promise.
He may be way, way, WAY better than Trump, but I do think he’s an asshole.
Another thread trying to encourage not voting/voting Republican.
Why is Lemmy like this? This is half of what I see whenever I see people criticizing Joey B on here.
Why can’t people dislike and vote against Trump while also wanting to hold Biden accountable for his words/actions?
I see such a large majority of people who vote Dem/have blue/left values on here and I seriously doubt posts like these are going to change their minds. People just want to vent their frustrations with what many consider the only option they have.
Let me add to that.
“During a close election with extremely high stakes, why would we not post misleading criticism about our own candidate?”
Your questions and concerns have been discussed many times. Not sure why this concept is new to you.
Relentless, isn’t it. OP can’t be this dumb, right? It has to be on purpose.
Most of it is on purpose, and a good portion is useful idiots parroting propaganda they heard. Trump, the Kremlin, and a bunch of other powerful sociopaths love these threads.
Still vote, but keep pushing him to do what he promised.
No no you don’t understand!!! We don’t need to call out him promising things and then not even asking for it in office!! HE’S NOT TRUMP!!!
You’re a russian bot, or worker, or something, we’re the good guys, and that means blindly supporting the default option!!
Today I Learned that official statements and campaign promises from Biden are in fact now Republican propaganda. My favorite one is when Republicans made Biden said he would fight for abortion rights and queer protections.
Like mate, is calling out “Hey they didn’t even push for this once in office to the same political party” propaganda? Or is it just going “Don’t believe everything you hear from a politician, even with they are the lowest bar of ‘Not Dipshit Trump’”?
we can push him left once he wins
He won 4 years ago this is pushing him left after he won.
“You can push Biden left when we win.”
“Okay. Hey he’s in, I want to push him left and call his racist actions and policies what they are.”
“Why do you hate America? Why are you a Russian agent?”
Other people in the thread said minimum wage didn’t pass in the Senate.
So he made a promise he couldn’t keep. He didn’t try to win over the members in congress, or talk about it publicly why it’s the fault of Republicans, and not him.
That’s a cool guy. Remember when FDR just did nothing in Congress to push for Social Security? Or Minimum Wage? That was so cool of him. I especially don’t remember him making any fireside chats to the public talking about what would best for America and how you can help it.
Dude this is how Congress works. The president is not a king. Congress passes laws, not the president. You campaign and then you try to fulfill it, but if Congress blocks you there’s not much you can do
If you haven’t noticed, the right wing today is not the right wing of 70 years ago. They will gleefully burn everything to the ground. The GOP even shut down the government under Obama.
So now the question is what can you do. You vote for the Dems. You give them actual control in all 3 houses. Give them consistent and overwhelming victories.
I live in California and I vote Democrat. I vote in primaries.
The house and stats assembly where I live in republican redneck territory. The dipshit known as Kevin McCarthy was my rep. 65+% of all votes.
I fucking hate Republicans.
It’s very weird to want strong benefits from your employer and not simply as a separate thing. Maybe that’s not what he meant but the way it’s listed is vague.
Systems like that are very hard to change for some reason, so it can be impossible for one politician to rewrite the whole system. It’s a lot easier to modify the system slightly so people can get closer to the bare minimum when total reform is off the table.
The reason is money.
The reason is limited time and attention
Yeah Obamacare was just a tiny baby step towards universal healthcare and people are still upset over it.
Fuck Obamacare! I get my health insurance through the ACA for free cause I lost my job in the coal mine when a big rock crushed my leg! These taxes going to welfare queens are ruining the country! Trump!
Free insurance through the ACA? All I remember is it making insurance mandatory.
Do not take anything said during a campaign year as immutable fact. Ever. Not gonna happen. Ever.
because of Republicans.
Politicians of all flavors are guilty. Its endemic to the species
The $15 minimum failed in the senate 42-58, 42 Democrats voted yay, in March 2021
AFAIK, nothing passed the house for sub-minimum wages
Ensuring everyone has strong benefits might be difficult when they’re barely holding Republicans back from stripping Medicare and Social Security. They’re at least holding the line.
How many democrats in the senate?
I’m not American just trying to understand if any voted no or it was all republicans.
Since 2022 Democrats have 47 , Independent have 4, Republicans have 49
In 2020 Democrats had obtained the majority with 48 and 2 Independent caucusing together, against 50 Republicans. Since it was 50:50 the Vice President had to be the tie breaker for selecting the majority leader.
8 D voted nay along with 50 R, but if you don’t see how it failing was the result of the R party then you’d be a damn fool.
Thanks.
47 at the moment but there’s 2 independents (Bernie Sanders and Angus King) that caucus with the Dems, and 2 more that are “aligned” with the Dems (Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin). So currently 51ish.
But at the time of that vote it was 50ish but Manchin and Sinema were officially part of the party then. If a vote is a tie, the VP (Kamala Harris) gets to vote. So it needed 50 votes to pass.
Here’s an article on the eight Dems that voted against it: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/541860-the-eight-democrats-who-voted-no-on-15-minimum-wage/
Note that Manchin and Sinema voted against it and have left the party since then. This is largely because of them voting against this and similar legislation created a general disdain for them within the party. They won’t be back after the next election.
All 50 republicans voted against it.
Oh Jesus. Jon Tester’s campaign texted me yesterday asking for money. I dont even know how I got added to his list but knowing he voted against raising the minimum wage makes me infuriated he would text someone outside his district for help.
And people vote for Republicans? Are they retarded?
And then they blame it on the Democratic president, so…yes.
They’re just doing what fox “news” is telling them to do. They can’t think for themselves.
Yes. The GOP only survives because of poor education.
It really is sad to see the same crowd talking about how great things were back then, and suck now, when they’ve spent the last four decades voting in the people who have spent the same time diminishing public education’s effectiveness. My parents are some of those voters…
B-but it’s the Democrat’s fault!
Says the people who
a) Are secretly Republicans trying to act like insecure Democrats
b) Try to find any reason to blame Biden, even if it’s adjacent blame
c) All the above
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That’s how Sinema got elected…
And she’s out of the Democratic party now.
The seat belongs to the individual on the ballot, it doesn’t belong to the party. That means someone holding a seat can go against their party which is generally good as it prevents the party from having too much power. But the downside is when you get a lunatic in a seat and all you can do is get rid of them in the next election.
Which is what’s happening. Sinema was going to be challenged in the primary and likely to lose. She decided to go independent, but last I heard, after seeing her polling numbers she’s dropped out completely.
As I said elsewhere, the Democratic Party is the 42/50 party while the GOP is the 0/50 party. You probably shouldn’t vote for a party no matter who’s elected, but even if you took this naive approach, the Dems might potentially become a 50/57 party. The GOP will always be the 0/50 party.
Ideally you’d check the platforms of every candidate at the primary stage through to the general and vote accordingly. If most people did that the Dems could be a 50/50 party.
But most people aren’t that involved politically. Blue no matter know, while isn’t ideal, is still better than voting GOP or not voting at all.
Sure but is that how she got through the primary? And did we get a worse outcome than if her Republican opponent won?
Just to be clear, NOT trying to defend or paint her in a good light.
It’s a choice between the 42/50 party or the 0/50 party.
Thank you.
They knew it would fail long before it went to vote. Much of what goes before any part of the legislative branch of government for a vote is purely performative.
If you know R will vote it down and you think D might possibly maybe vote it down unless enough of them defect at the last moment, then it’s still a very clear choice in favor of D. Plus, Manchin and Sinema got forced out of the party and Sinema’s chance at reelection is all but completely gone.
We can call their bluff or we can just take the beating without trying to fix anything.
We can call their bluff or we can just take the beating without trying to fix anything.
The end result is the same, though, because, in this particular matter, both sides are similar enough in their collective hatred of the poor that a law like this won’t get passed. It doesn’t matter if you get rid of Manchin and Sinema. It only got 40 D votes. Manchin and Sinema might bump that up to 42. Or the people who replace them might vote the same way they did on this, because there is a core ideological opposition that exists across party lines to actually helping the working class.
LMAO with this “both sides bad” idiot
Oh, it’s not that both sides are bad. It’s that there’s two sides, and the powers that be are all on the same one, and we’re all on the other, and we just happen to have “some people *ahem*” too dim to realize it.
So you’re solution is to give Republican’s majority? Sounds to me like you’re on the wrong side, mate.
So you’re solution is to give Republican’s majority? Sounds to me like you’re on the wrong side, mate.
First of all, it’s “your solution,” not “you’re solution.” Learn to spell. Second of all, I am not telling anyone to “not vote” for Democrats. I’m saying that the argument that if Democrats are given control over both the legislative and executive branches of government that it’ll result in positive legislation getting passed is simply untrue. The only real reason you can give for electing Democrats is to prevent Republicans from getting elected, because Republicans will actively pass legislation. Horrible, comically evil legislation. As such, presenting the choice as between “good” and “bad” political forces is simply wrong. The choice can only be honestly presented as between “neutral, fundamentally ineffectual” and “absolutely heinous” political forces. Optimism in the Democrats is ludicrous and comes across as disingenuous at best and deluded at worst. If you want to court leftist voters, the only real talking point you have is that it’s not a vote for the Democrats, but one against Republicans. Because that’s at least nominally true. Both parties want to preserve the political status quo of the country. Republicans just want to do it while hurting minorities, and Democrats don’t care as much about that. Minor distinction, but that’s the most we can get.
40 Dem + 2 Inde voted yay
Did they throw their hands in the air, too?
It was truly an ungay moment as the legislature failed to pass by 9 votes.
No, he was performing software updates and forgot to change windows.
Come on Party people. Throw your hands in the air.
I’ll promise anything you want as long as you vote for me!
I want a pink fluffy unicorn.
If you vote for him AND dem senate and house.
Except some of those Dems are actually Republicans in disguise.
Biden: End the tipped minimum wage.
Tipping also disappears.
Servers: Not like this!
Servers everywhere in non tipping countries: y’all still do tips?
People will put change into a jar at the front of a cafe if they want, usually a dollar or so. Sometimes the money is for a charity run and not even for the cafe. At a fine dining restaurant yes you’d probably tip for great service.
At a bar for instance you wouldn’t tip. That would be strange.
Servers here: Lol that’s all you make over there?
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
As someone who works for tips in catering, I’d quit the moment tips stopped coming in. $15/hr minimum wage made sense in 2019, today my family would be fucking homeless even with my wife working full time, and I live in a fairly low CoL city. I’d literally be better off not working because daycare costs almost the same amount that I would make.
Meanwhile I’d have to deal with the stress of 5 assholes every day who think it’s ok to order $500 worth of food a piece with 2 hours of notice. No thanks.
The restaurant industry would come to a grinding halt.
you don’t seem to have considered that your profession exists in every other country, and in your nation’s peers, your peers in the same profession are less miserable than you seem to be.
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Exactly, charge me what you need to to pay your employees what their worth.
Shit, I’d take paying them enough to go back to the way it was before anything less than 20% was taking food out of the server’s mouth. 0% fuck you I’m never coming back. ~5% substandard. 10-12% acceptable. 15-20% excellent.
Then you’d cry that your food is so expensive and your service sucks since the wait staff would be cut in half, or the restaurant will just go out of business and you’re left eating at a chain restaurant that serves you microwaved meals.
Why would people cry that the food is so expensive when it costs the same as after tipping?
Tipping is a horrible experience for everyone besides the restaurant owner
You’re wrong. Tipping is great for the server. If your server sucks, you don’t tip as much. If you don’t tip, your server isn’t making nearly as much therefore isn’t going to give a shit, and there will be less servers because of payroll so your experience is going to be shit.
You would have to pay your servers at a bare minimum 20 an hour more than they get now to keep any of them and most would leave with that. Average time sitting and eating is an hour. Your food is now going to cost you at least 20 bucks more. Profit margins don’t care about your feelings and either do shareholders. You weren’t going to tip 20 bucks on 50 dollar meal were you?
My wife was a bartender at a corner bar and cleared 2500 to 3 grand per weekend. I was a part time waiter and made more than my buddy that was a full time union electrician. Make that shit hourly and it won’t be worth putting up with the Karen’s and Ken’s.
It’s a terrible experience. You made a bunch of common mental gymnastics that are somehow supposed to justify why the patron deciding the salary of the restaurant’s employee is better than the restaurant being responsible for pay and quality of their employees, we’ve all heard it before and it’s nonsense.
But hey, if you are suggesting it we can agree to advocate for not tipping at all if patrons don’t think it is deserved.
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Your food will cost more than 20% more, there will be less waitstaff, and the waitstaff that is there won’t give a shit because they’re hourly and making a fraction of what they did with tips.
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The more nonsense that people like you say the closer it makes me to abstaining from tipping so I’m not contributing to such an ass backwards system people bend themselves over backwards to defend
Pinky promise ?
then do it
I think he needs help. People to vote for him and a democratic house and Senate… that’s how it works
