I can’t live on $15/hr. I’m barely scraping by at $18. Minimum wage now needs to be closer to $25-30/hr.
I’m 38. Make 29/hr. I’m fortunate enough to own my home, well rather renting from my bank for the next 16 years. Anyways, I’m barley getting by as well. Between my car payment and the mortgage it’s nearly impossible to get by as a single income household. I can’t even imagine how bad it would be if I had kids.
It’s to the point where I’d consider dating someone just to cut the bills in half.
Lol… not seriously, but definitely maybe
I saw a meme recently about being polyamorous just because of the financial benefits of having multiple incomes. I’m already poly, but I can see some monogamous poeople considering poly relationships because of money issues.
It’s terrible that it happens that way sometimes but there’s some truth to that meme.
Lol yup. Tbh I tried poly and it didn’t end well cause I’m a jealous birch
You should consider it. If I didn’t have a girlfriend, I would be homeless cause nothing is affordable at $18/hr when you’re alone.
Don’t get me wrong my guy, I’m trying. Dating apps are tge worst. I go through cycles of meeting someone on apps, dating them for a year then they dip out. I’m not so niave to understand that I need to work on myself so I can eventually be a good partner to someone, and I’m doing just that. Therapy yoga meditation etc. However, unfortunately I fear the only way to meet a genuine partner is to meet them while emerging myself in my interests and meeting someone while doing so. However it’s tough out here
Not trying to sound conceded but I’m handsome and have no problem finding dates, but I’m tired of one nighters. I know the issue of me not being able to settle down with someone lies within me. I’m working on it and hopefully I’ll rope in my forever partner someday soon
Dating apps are garbage. Never had success with them. They’re designed to keep you on the platform for as long as possible, so if you find someone you’re obviously not going to continue using it. You’ll never find love on a dating app.
The only way to go is organically. Like you implied, you need to go out and meet people. One thing that works for me is to always put on a smile in public, even if you’re miserable (I know I am). It’s makes you more approachable. In my last two relationships I didn’t even have to do anything because women asked me out. That’s how I met my current lover, and we’ve been living together for 4 years now. But for what it’s worth, I’m attractive too. A solid 8.5.
Poly lifestyles are gonna get more common, since soon you’ll need three incomes just to survive!
$15/hr was the demand over a decade ago. The buying power of the dollar has maybe halved since then. When it’s finally achieved, it’ll be paraded around as an accomplishment by politicians who waited until it became too little too late and corporations will use it as an excuse to jack up prices even further.
Biden: End the tipped minimum wage.
Tipping also disappears.
Servers: Not like this!
Servers everywhere in non tipping countries: y’all still do tips?
Servers here: Lol that’s all you make over there?
People will put change into a jar at the front of a cafe if they want, usually a dollar or so. Sometimes the money is for a charity run and not even for the cafe. At a fine dining restaurant yes you’d probably tip for great service.
At a bar for instance you wouldn’t tip. That would be strange.
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
As someone who works for tips in catering, I’d quit the moment tips stopped coming in. $15/hr minimum wage made sense in 2019, today my family would be fucking homeless even with my wife working full time, and I live in a fairly low CoL city. I’d literally be better off not working because daycare costs almost the same amount that I would make.
Meanwhile I’d have to deal with the stress of 5 assholes every day who think it’s ok to order $500 worth of food a piece with 2 hours of notice. No thanks.
The restaurant industry would come to a grinding halt.
you don’t seem to have considered that your profession exists in every other country, and in your nation’s peers, your peers in the same profession are less miserable than you seem to be.
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Then you’d cry that your food is so expensive and your service sucks since the wait staff would be cut in half, or the restaurant will just go out of business and you’re left eating at a chain restaurant that serves you microwaved meals.
Why would people cry that the food is so expensive when it costs the same as after tipping?
Tipping is a horrible experience for everyone besides the restaurant owner
You’re wrong. Tipping is great for the server. If your server sucks, you don’t tip as much. If you don’t tip, your server isn’t making nearly as much therefore isn’t going to give a shit, and there will be less servers because of payroll so your experience is going to be shit.
You would have to pay your servers at a bare minimum 20 an hour more than they get now to keep any of them and most would leave with that. Average time sitting and eating is an hour. Your food is now going to cost you at least 20 bucks more. Profit margins don’t care about your feelings and either do shareholders. You weren’t going to tip 20 bucks on 50 dollar meal were you?
My wife was a bartender at a corner bar and cleared 2500 to 3 grand per weekend. I was a part time waiter and made more than my buddy that was a full time union electrician. Make that shit hourly and it won’t be worth putting up with the Karen’s and Ken’s.
It’s a terrible experience. You made a bunch of common mental gymnastics that are somehow supposed to justify why the patron deciding the salary of the restaurant’s employee is better than the restaurant being responsible for pay and quality of their employees, we’ve all heard it before and it’s nonsense.
But hey, if you are suggesting it we can agree to advocate for not tipping at all if patrons don’t think it is deserved.
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Your food will cost more than 20% more, there will be less waitstaff, and the waitstaff that is there won’t give a shit because they’re hourly and making a fraction of what they did with tips.
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The more nonsense that people like you say the closer it makes me to abstaining from tipping so I’m not contributing to such an ass backwards system people bend themselves over backwards to defend
Exactly, charge me what you need to to pay your employees what their worth.
Shit, I’d take paying them enough to go back to the way it was before anything less than 20% was taking food out of the server’s mouth. 0% fuck you I’m never coming back. ~5% substandard. 10-12% acceptable. 15-20% excellent.
Unfortunately when Democrats reach across the aisle, they are giving Bobert handjobs in a Beetlejuice showing.
Looks like it would be a good idea to reelecte him and give him a Democratic Senate and Congress in 2024
It looked that way long before this toot.
and give him a Democratic senate and house in 2024
He had that in 2020 and it still didn’t pass.
There’s always some obstacle that prevents the Democrats from delivering what they promise.
We voted Democrat hard enough but voting Democrat didn’t work because we didn’t vote hard enough.
I’m sure gerrymandering has nothing to do with it…
No, I just didn’t vote hard enough. I really tried, too.
Bernie was not amused!
He had that in 2020 and it still didn’t pass.
… except he didn’t have that in 2020… which why it didn’t pass… what lmfao?
He did. Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate in 2020.
The bill failed to pass because a bunch of Democrats voted against it.
From the first paragraph of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_elections :
Despite losing seats in the House of Representatives, Democrats retained control of the House and gained control of the Senate. As a result, the Democrats obtained a government trifecta, the first time since the elections in 2008 that the party gained unified control of Congress and the presidency.
… And two independents torpedoed it because they ran as Democrats despite being from essentially Republican areas with one being a giant lying sack of mega shit know as Sinema.
If you didn’t pass legislation, then you didn’t control the government. This is not a hard concept to understand. It’s one of the very few black and white ones since there is only a binary outcome lol.
And two independents torpedoed it
As well as eight other Democrats who voted against it.
There’s always some obstacle that prevents the Democrats from delivering what they promise.
I mean, it’s just so weird, isn’t it? Like how it keeps happening every. single. time. Oh well, maybe if we try it getting the Dems a majority, plus the Presidency, one more time we’ll get a different result. That’s a totally sane course of action, right?
vote for trump. get what you deserve.
I’m not gonna waste my time reading a screenshot of someone else’s conversation like it’s an actual argument.
convenient. also I guess reading is hard for some folks.
I read enough to recognize a bullshit strawman argument. At least don’t be so lazy you’re unwilling to type it out yourself.
shut up and vote for trump already
Barely. Manchin and Sinema kept torpedoing just about any legislation that would have been actually beneficial. Though with this specific topic it appears that eight Democrats voted against it, which is still far fewer than the number of Republicans that voted against it.
That’s not to say I’m some Democrat apologist or shill, I have so many problems with the party, but for issues like these it seems like they are the lesser of two evils and if their majority margins could increase it would likely have an effect on issues like these.
and if their majority margins could increase it would likely have an effect on issues like these.
If their majority margins increased, they’d find new excuses to not pass it.
The trend would suggest otherwise, but only one way to find out. Let’s get a higher majority in there to prove me wrong!
When Obama had the supermajority for a brief time in 2008 (70ish days IIRC) we got the ACA. It was watered down a little but but it still helps a lot of people.
Yarp, and if memory serves it was watered down because he and the Dems were attempting to engage with the Republicans in good faith and after the Dems made the concessions the Republicans asked for they still voted against it.
It’s very weird to want strong benefits from your employer and not simply as a separate thing. Maybe that’s not what he meant but the way it’s listed is vague.
Systems like that are very hard to change for some reason, so it can be impossible for one politician to rewrite the whole system. It’s a lot easier to modify the system slightly so people can get closer to the bare minimum when total reform is off the table.
Yeah Obamacare was just a tiny baby step towards universal healthcare and people are still upset over it.
Fuck Obamacare! I get my health insurance through the ACA for free cause I lost my job in the coal mine when a big rock crushed my leg! These taxes going to welfare queens are ruining the country! Trump!
Free insurance through the ACA? All I remember is it making insurance mandatory.
The reason is money.
The reason is limited time and attention
If only Dark Brandon was real.
Can’t do much if the majority rule is blocking all of that.
You can stop promising things you don’t have control over.
Don’t make promises you can’t keep. Especially, if people will take you up on these promises.
I’m very confused. The president can’t know the composition of Congress during the campaign because all of the Reps are on the same ballot as the president. Are you saying prospective candidates should always say “If I’m elected and we have the house and Senate I will…” to cover their asses? I think most people understand those ramifications.
I think “most” people do NOT understand those ramifications. Maybe 33% of the population does, 33% think and want the president to be a dictator, and 34% don’t pay attention to anything at all.
Failure to pay attention in civics class cannot possibly be the fault of a presidential candidate.
Also, presidents and presidential candidates do a ton of campaigning for both their own candidacy as well as for down ballot candidates in an effort to achieve these things. They’re only advertising their intentions and priorities. That’s your it has worked since the beginning of American democracy
Yeah but making promises abojt things you’ll do as President, that you can’t do as President, is the fault of a Presidential candidate.
Sure, OP is demonstrating that quite clearly, although as usual the goal is just to bash Biden (as if Trump would do any of this).
Derp, what’s a legislative branch?
A simple modifier like “I’ll push for…” would have covered his ass a lot.
Not to cover their asses, but to push more people to vote not just for them, but for their party all down the ticket.
Yeah, I’m sure there was no way to either pressure Sinema and/or replace the parlementarian when Congress had the chance to do this.
But can make empty promises
He should be getting in front of a camera every day and saying “here’s what we’re trying to do. Here’s why it helps you/society. And here are the assholes standing in the way”. And if those assholes are Democrats, kick them out of the party and support a better candidate to run against them.
Yes! This is what strong leadership looks like. We haven’t seen it from POTUS in far too long.
It wouldn’t matter. It wouldn’t get coverage in half the media in the country. And most people don’t even watch the media, anyway. It’ll be bullshit stories and anti-liberal memes as per usual.
When did he try and congress blocked it?
March 2021
Easy solution to this constant nagging problem would be ending the filibuster.
I’ll promise anything you want as long as you vote for me!
I want a pink fluffy unicorn.
If you vote for him AND dem senate and house.
Except some of those Dems are actually Republicans in disguise.
Do not take anything said during a campaign year as immutable fact. Ever. Not gonna happen. Ever.
because of Republicans.
Politicians of all flavors are guilty. Its endemic to the species
That apostrophe and two Ls are doing a lot of heavy lifting.
Will you do those things, Joe? Or will you try to, get foiled by Congress, attempt to do something within your power and then get foiled by the Supreme Court?
Maybe don’t say things like that until you’ve got a filibuster-proof hold of Congress. And even then it’ll get watered down.
I don’t think “I will do what Congress permits” is a particularly good campaign promise, even if it’s the most honest thing he can say.
How about “get me a double majority in Congress and I’ll”…
So you don’t want him to say anything until after the election, and only if he has a supermajority? That’s not how campaigning works.
“I will do my best to push for” is perfectly acceptable and also shows he has basic civics knowledge.
I am a firm believer that overpromising and underdelivering is what hurts voter turnout the most.
that sub-minimum wage really hurts right about now
This will be unpopular:
Before or at the same time as we fix sub-minimum wage, we need to also address the disability benefits cliff. I personally know multiple disabled people that limit how much they are working so that they don’t hit the cutoff where all the benefits disappear, not tail off. Generally these people enjoy their work and are capable of working more, but if they earn a dollar too much, they are screwed, loosing access to a number of subsidies and medical care.
Also the fact they aren’t allowed to save up money. I think it’s like $2k saved up and they get cut off. That’s not even enough for first last and security deposit if they wanted to try and move to a better situation.
My little brother dealt with that on his SSI and it is total bullshit. He couldn’t work past like 15 or 20 hours a week or they’d take all of his benefits away. They need to either make them tail off slowly or move that cliff back to like $200k/yr.
Why would that be unpopular
For some reason there’s a lot of hate for disabled poeple. It’s like poeple view them as a ugly drain on society. I had a guy tell me to my face disabled poeple should be dead. Source: husband is disabled.
The fuck type of people are you talking to? I guarantee you there are way more people who want to help the disabled that kill them. Not saying this didn’t happen, but holy shit that’s crazy.
Economically it’s cheaper to help the disabled than to ignore them. It’s just makes 0 sense to force them into a situation where they’re not taken care of until they create a massive medical bill.
Oh yeah I know it’s cheaper to help the disabled, but y’know 'murica. As for who said that too me, it was a coworker.
Your coworker is a shitty person.
I recently read an article describing how when disabled people have too much in their savings accounts or try to pay off outstanding debts, they are ordered to repay years worth of benefits. We can fix this! Peer-reviewed study after per-reviewed study (in theory and practice) has shown it costs less to just do the right things and look after each other (whether we think it’s deserved/earned/insert other term here) or not. We can fix it. It’s a matter of rolling up our sleeves and consistently apply pressure in proper spaces.
Direct action, mutual aid in the meantime. For everyone.
Before or at the same time as we fix sub-minimum wage, we need to also address the disability benefits cliff.
Agreed, especially the bolded part. There’s absolutely no reason we can’t do both.
It is positively evil in my opinion to implement helping laws with cutoffs like this.
Any time we make a scenario where more work equals less results for people, that’s a violation of their right to a navigable environment.
Nature doesn’t create scenarios like that. So our brains didn’t evolve for it. Only well-meaning fools make scenarios like that, trying to “help”.
Better a person never be picked up at all, than to be picked up and dropped.
Don’t worry he’ll make an executive order for this soon which will go into effect next year.
I asked the parliamentarian if we could do good things instead of bad things and they told me to go fuck myself :/
From 2020. Sheesh.
