assaulted at least five women
Do you mean CHILDREN?
assaulted
Do they mean RAPED?
There is a legal difference between sexual assault and rape. Obviously they did both, but just so you know.
I’m not a lawyer and see all of it as rape.
Some of them were minors, some of them weren’t
Let’s split the difference in a way that we can all agree.
Five girls.
If we’re going to be non-specific, let’s use the least minimizing term.
Agreed.
“explosive report”. World’s slowest moving most inept explosion.
Fr. This was found months ago by sleuths. What an awful world we live in that it’s now news.
Because an election is coming up, not because they actually care.
I mean, it should have stayed in the news the first time and until it was followed by the story of how his child molesting ass was removed from office and dealt with. But know the media just skipped right along to the next bullshit that should have resulted in the same thing but didn’t. Just endlessly cycling through horrible shit.
I may be misremebering but I’m pretty sure that this story has been circulating for YEARS. Like at least 3 years cuz I’m pretty sure I saw it on Reddit and I’m part of the API lockdown diaspora. Why is it getting reported on again? Is is being given more credence now? As much as I hate having to think about it, hopefully the new reporting will do some good and Katie will get somw justice.
I think it’s because the government just filed a thing about it, and i think they had to wait until now because they know they’ll have more representatives’ support soon after midterms if Trump let’s midterms happen and doesn’t lose his shit on the country.
It’s like the explosion in that one Invader Zim episode. Slow as shit, but inevitable.
But hey, maybe I’m just too optimistic 🤷
Like watching a storm roll in in Saskatchewan
A rain.
Be me. Try to do the right thing. Do what society tells me. Work hard. Get hit in the face by the rock of life and am stumbling hard.
Be them. Worst of the worst, crimes against absolutely everyone and everything. Reach the pinnacle of success.
I really think the Germans need to come up with a new word for the contrast I’ve stated.
No single words, and nothing that seems too interesting in German, but there’s a good Cantonese phrase that encompasses that sentiment:
殺人放火金腰帶，修橋補路無屍骸
shā rén fàng huǒ jīn yāo dài, xiū qiáo bǔ lù wú shī hái
Roughly, “murder and arson earn a gold belt; doing good deeds (lit. building bridges and repairing roads) leaves no corpse (i.e. no one can find your body to bury properly).
Love it.
And yet society is built by the people who make and repair roads and bridges.
The gold belt I assume is a phrase for wealth and power.
As a kid I got the idea of job hopping, switching companies every few years for more money. My dad said, ‘if you try to climb too fast you’ll break your neck’.
Turns out… No, the most successful people are absolutely the ones who are so completely full of shit and talk from both sides of their mouth and do what they condemn for everyone else with great gusto.
I’ve been in IT for many years. At least when markets are not like they are right now, moving to another job was absolutely the way to get market wages.
Being the “nice guy” and sticking around for “loyalty to the company” (lol) just fucks over the worker. It’s not unethical to vote with your feet.
I’ve been in situations where people try to manipulate good people into thinking that it is.
My problem is also that I am autistic and have a plethora of other issues. My greatest problem was always in finding decent work. Right now I have a job that is very good and pays well and I consider it my first ever ‘real’ job. I got it at 40. So that’s how long it took me to do it.
The guys who job hop right after college and are directors by their late 30s are not something I can imitate, sadly. Not out of lack of trying. It is just that fucking hard for me.
I never angled for management per se in these jumps; often it was doing only slightly different work (mostly just swapping the emphasis on different tools/languages/operations systems, etc.) but just getting gouged because market rates went up or how I came in with a lowballed salary because of coming in with no experience or after a layoff…
Sorry to hear about your struggles. Yeah, work is a place that is rarely accommodating of, well, anything, least of all people that are not cut from a certain mold.
We already have a good one in English: capitalism.
no, broke or poor
Nice country to be proud living in! Run by a child molester and gang of criminals……….no wonder the whole world wants NOTHING to do with you!
they just flaunt all this shit at us cuz theres nothing we actively can do. they just laugh at us, look at howard nutlick.
He and his wife were so shocked and horrified by Jeff that Howard kept doing stuff with him for another decade plus after the supposed interaction in 2005 that had them so verklempt:
Lutnick said he and his wife left and decided that he would never be in a room with Epstein again. He further said that he was never with Epstein socially, for business, or through philanthropy.
Oh, what’s this?
Records released in 2026 contradicted the ordinary meaning of that account. They documented attempts to communicate after Epstein’s 2008 conviction, an in person meeting in 2011, a social visit to Little Saint James in 2012, shared participation in an investment, philanthropic and fundraising intersections, and direct correspondence in 2018.
The conservatives made another oopsie-doodle! No big deal, the Murc’s Law Media should probably pivot to some bOtHsIdEs story, for balance, stat…
they just flaunt all this shit at us cuz theres nothing we actively do. they just laugh at us, look at howard nutlick.
Fucking sick. Millions of people voted for this sick fuck and they are probably voting for him again right now knowing he did this
they are probably voting for him again right now
He’s not up for re-election and not on the ballot. Only a subset of Congress is. A Democratic majority in Congress would not mean we get a new president, nor does it make it possible to impeach and remove the current one. Also, neither snap elections nor no-confidence votes are a thing here.
It seems a lot of non-US people watching from a distance have higher hopes than they should about the significance of this midterm election, due to not really understanding how the US system works and/or thinking it’s a parlimentary system like a normal modern democracy.
Which is why the European / Canadian “OMG dO sOmEtHiNg you pussies!!! No…? Guess you’re all fine with fascism then…!” commenters are especially irritating because there’s really only one way he doesn’t stay in office until Jan 2029, and that’s already been tried unsuccessfully, and just gets you president Vance anyway. Or president Johnson, if you managed a two-for one. A different president before 2029 is not a possible outcome of protesting- any amount of protesting. Those “No Kings” events are just cargo-cult civil disobedience for liberal boomers to virtue signal at. They have no demands to make, no credible threat of escalation if the demands are ignored, and no reason for the regime to take them seriously.
Voting republican in this election is voting for Trump in spirit, it is showing continued support. Everyone knows this is what people mean when they talk about voting for or against Trump in this election. The only exception I would allow is if they’re voting for a really good local republican candidate who isn’t aligned with Trump
It’s not in spirit voting Republican is voting for Trump is voting for pedophiles is voting for corruption.
Never let Republicans lose the stench of orange pedo
Yup, unironically, Republicans need to be bullied and treated like shit. Being associated with the Republican Party should come with the very same stigmas being a child rapist comes with.
Not going ham on Republicans is implicit approval of their actions, imo. In the same way of letting a Nazi sit at your table, or join your group.
I disowned all the Republicans I knew two years ago, and never looked back. Being in Utah, though, means there’s not a lot of people still left in my life. Oh well, the cost of having principles, right?
I agree with most of your points except that a large enough display of civil disobedience should instigate change. If people are willing to literally block the streets, strike and shut down the economy in enough major cities, changes will be made. The Short list of demands should be made clear and begin with impeach, arrest, and prosecute pedophile Trump.
The “large enough display of civil disobedience” would just be outright civil war. We already know that Republican voters are happy to accept the razing of “Liberal hellholes” (every major city in the country) based on the messaging around Seattle and Portland in 2020.
Technically speaking if enough seats in Congress flipped to Democrats they could push an impeachment and prosecution through but that still hinges on the Executive and Judicial branches cooperating, and then there’s the military to consider. What we really need is a bunch of agricultural states to change so we can make some Constitutional Amendments but they’ve all been gerrymandered to fuck so that’s not a realistic goal either.
It still amazes me that in America it literally relies on a two party system to determine that someone who is a federal felon should lead the country or not… “he defrauded(and raped) so many people but we didn’t vote enough democrats in to kick him out” is just insanity to me. Like he had so many actual convicted crimes prior to presidency.
The problem is that the side opposing Trump sees the felonies and rape and Epstein stuff. The side supporting him is a religious cult that believes what they’re told to believe. Christian Nationalists are destroying the world.
You outnumber the police and you’re armed to the teeth. “The US military would just crush the population” argument is not particularly convincing either. You assume the military is some perfectly unified, ruthlessly efficient machine, which doesn’t describe the US military in foreign wars, let alone a domestic one.
Even the shitty GOP is unwilling to tolerate prolonged ground wars, casualties, recruitment problems, political backlash, and occupations of populations that are actually hostile to it. Yet somehow we are supposed to believe that the same institution would suddenly function flawlessly whe turned against your own citizens? The assumption that everyone would simply follow orders indefinitely while Americans were being killed in huge numbers is absurd. There’s a reason you haven’t sent soldiers in to occupy Tehran.
Eventually they would run into a very simple problem- if armed resistance was genuinely widespread, half-measures would not settle it. It would either have to escalate to levels of violence sufficient to kill Americans on an enormous scale, potentially millions, or it would have to back down / simply stop functioning. You also have the fact that your military has never been more poorly managed than it is right now.
Yes, the US military has vastly more firepower than civilians. Congratulations. Nobody disputes that. The question is whether it could politically, institutionally, and psychologically use that firepower against its own population on the scale necessary to win such a conflict- and if it’s your position that your own military WOULD do that to you, and that is why you are choosing not to act? Great- then your political morality is just one in which the government’s entitlement to your obedience increases in direct proportion to how willing it is to fucking kill you.
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I disagree with many other things you said but this part is right on.
Those “No Kings” events are just cargo-cult civil disobedience for liberal boomers to virtue signal at. They have no demands to make, no credible threat of escalation if the demands are ignored, and no reason for the regime to take them seriously.
Only correction is that they’re not boomer events. Come on. Boomers are not leaving the house at this point.
Voting Republican in the midterms is voting for his enablers which is not much better.
Any Republican who crosses Trump gets ousted. Just look at Massie.
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I’m not saying this is true or isn’t true.
But the article does credit Katie Johnson as the source and there is reasonable doubt as to whether she even exists. The only person who claims to have spoken to her is a Jerry Springer Story Producer.
What We Know About Origins of Trump Child Rape Allegations
The reason why I say this is I think it’s important to be factual even when making allegations against scum like Trump. Any false rumor we spread is another victory for MAGA and the right. It’s a way for them to convince more people that the left is evil.
Apparently there are logged FBI interviews in the house report of a woman making these claims:
Also I think Katie Johnon is an anonymised victim name so what you are talking about might be a different “claim” than what appears in this document.
Thank you for providing a detailed and skeptical response.
I have fallen victim of sharing/spreading political claims without enough due diligence.
We must ensure that credibility is the most important criteria. Otherwise, even the most spurious claims are used to frame things against other evidence.
Fuck Trump forever, he is a pedophile. We must pursue the highest standards of evidence to compel the Judiciary.
The answer is simple, release the Epstien files…
100% AGREE.
And the rabid knee jerk reactions of a lot of people make them more and more like MAGA. Staying skeptical and asking for evidence is a good thing, that’s how society works. Otherwise we’re just going into actual witchcraft accusations where the accusers are always and by default in the right and beyond reproach, which does not make for a great society to live in.
Have you watched Katie Johnson’s testimony? This was before trump was elected. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo&lis=
What is the source for this video? None of the links in the description include this video.
The link to the court case shows that Katie Johnson was completely unreachable by the court system and letters were repeated returned to sender.
Snopes and the Guardian researched Katie Johnson and neither were able to find credible claims.
I’m not saying she doesn’t exist only that there is reasonable doubt here.
This video was out when I first joined reddit around 2016. Not only was she real, but there is a witness. Also, there are plenty of verifications during that time period. You can say that you don’t believe her, but you can’t say it’s not real.
Mason signed on this week to represent the plaintiff, who filed her complaint as “Jane Doe,” according to court records. He is best known as the defense attorney for Casey Anthony, the Florida woman acquitted on charges of killing her 2-year-old daughter in 2008.
Donald Trump is accused of having forcible sex with the plaintiff while attending a party at the NYC apartment of convicted billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, according to the complaint. The plaintiff also claims that Epstein raped her twice at two such parties.
Two witnesses provided affidavits filed by the plaintiff under the names “Joan Doe” and “Tiffany Doe” that back up the woman’s story.
“Joan Doe” claims that the plaintiff told her about the assaults in 1994–95 shortly after they are alleged to have occurred.
I don’t think it’s fair to say that he’s saying he doesn’t believe her. He’s saying that it’s not easy to prove her existence. Just because you ask for facts and evidence does not mean that you side with the accused. That would mean that the whole justice system sides with the accused at all times because they require facts and evidence in a court of law.
I can say Katie Johnson might not be real because if you had read the article I linked to, you would know that Norm Lubow is the person who actually filed the lawsuit, not Katie Johnson.
Norm Lubow was also pretending to be someone named Al Taylor, who was also aggressively pushing the accusation with journalist.
Even Radar Online, which is linked in the post here is a known gossip site that didn’t believe Katie Johnson story to be credible either.
The gossip site Radar Online published a short story on April 28, 2016, noting the filing, but even it was skeptical, highlighting the fact that the person filing the claim had given apparently bogus contact information, using the address of a foreclosed house whose owner had recently died.
How does that work, filing a lawsuit on someone’s behalf, without the court being able to even verify their existence? That doesn’t make too much sense to me. She would have testify, no? It seems otherwise that’d be a pretty glaring issue with the justice system, if you can just make up people to represent without identifying them?
She would have to testify and the courts couldn’t reach her so the case was dropped. The filer gave a fake address.
Read the article, my dude.
Also I can tell you didn’t read my article because it addresses the sketchy video of the pixelated woman.
What article did you link? You seem to be trying to discredit this video for no reason. A person afraid for their life is usually hard to find.
You replied to me linking a Snopes article on this.
You didn’t even read what you replied to?
You seem to be confused and/or trolling.
if you look at their original comment there is blue text. That is something you can click, genius. It leads to an article. I’ve got no dog in this fight, but you being so obtuse made me need to respond.
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Fact one
- you talked about Snopes and The Guardian, but provided no links
Fact two
- I provided this link https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mikehayes/attorney-donald-trump-will-have-to-answer-teens-rape-accusat#.gtDdpq85m
Note: It’s to buzzfeed
Fact three
- you think I provided a link to snopes.
Last comment.
That’s not really enough to prove much. There are two paragraphs on that page and one of them seems inaccurate.
Two facts reinforce the credibility of Johnson’s claims. First, at the time of Johnson’s
statements to FBI, Jeffrey Epstein was not yet the infamous public figure he was to become. Thus,
if Johnson had fabricated the incident in an attempt to embarrass Donald Trump politically—as
President Trump’s campaign claimed—it is unclear why she would have made Epstein the primary
and slightly more violent perpetrator in her account
Trump was running for office when this accusation occurred in 2016. And his relationship with Epstein was already known. Remember Epstein had already been in trouble for under age sexual assault prior to 2010.
I want to be clear, I’m not saying Katie Johnson is or isn’t real. I’m just saying it’s not the nail in the coffin that we think it is.
I mean we all knew this i thought
For years MAGA’s were talking about how they were “ alpha males “ and “ real Americans “ , now when they have a chance to show an ounce of courage they demonstrate that they cowards and supplicate themselves to trump.
Remember when a lot of them were duped into protesting, terrorizing and harassing drag queens because focks nooz and other right-wing propaganda outlets claimed those were groomers.
I wonder what’s going through their heads these days now finding their wannabe god emperor had been a legitimate documented pedo this whole time
I saw a video today of some Trump Ladies with their Trump signs, and when asked about Trump being on the Epstein Files, they got super hostile, and said it was all lies. Their ability to ignore obvious facts is amazing.
Seeing some of them confronted with basic facts - like gas prices or whether donnie getting more than 2 terms is Constitutional or not - by the The Good Liars is…wild.
I mean, sure, gas prices are posted on signs that you see as you drive around. But they do strategic forgettery and lots and lots and lots of “blue lies” [1] and retcon that into something donnie is trying to “fight” and trying “to bring down”.
[1] In fact, seeing cons defending donnie is nearly textbook blue lie material…
Wonder how many of them remember that donnie motorboated Roodles dressed up in drag?
Pretty sure a ton of them are simply pedophiles as well.
Yep!
That shirt…is quite a take. I thought they hit Peak Self-Own when they were wearing stuff like the shirts below. But then some of them started wearing diapers and bandages on their ears. Some of the shirts the people are wearing while talking to Good Liars are pretty idiotic, too.
The average American Trump supporter is a gun toting, neoliberal, bear shooting, death penalty supporting, misogynist, who believe that LGBT people should be stoned to death Old Testament style, a white supremacist, anti-vaccine, climate change denying, anti-evolution, anti- science, flat earth believing, pro-life, anti- intellectual, sanctimonious evangelical Christian, Islamophobic bigot. Chem trail obsessive, xenophobic and a racist. Also ignorant, stupid, perverted and possibly demented.
The smallest dog bark the loudest.
The average American Trump supporter is a gun toting, neoliberal, bear shooting, death penalty supporting, misogynist, who believe that LGBT people should be stoned to death Old Testament style, a white supremacist, anti-vaccine, climate change denying, anti-evolution, anti- science, flat earth believing, pro-life, anti- intellectual, sanctimonious evangelical Christian, Islamophobic bigot. Chem trail obsessive, xenophobic and a racist. Also ignorant, stupid, perverted and possibly demented.
Your accurate yet unavoidably incomplete list made me reflect on how much the term “pro-life” is inaccurate while also being propaganda spin bullshit. It is literally the term for a policy of the death cult wing of american politics. I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but god damn.
I am a nature lover and animal lover. I come from a conservative redneck-ish family and one very strong correlation throughout my life has been that the more conservative somebody is, the more likely they are to openly brag about how much they would NOT spend money to help their own pets. Or even about how they would shoot them (usually a dog) if they ever did X.
But that is part of a much larger package deal where those people define themselves by the things they hate and activities they avoid.
Why do you think Kristi Noem told that anecdote about murdering a dog and a goat?
To appeal to exactly the sort of “manly” shitheads you are talking about.
Even by her own telling, she’s a total asshole. She killed a goat in a blind rage as part of murdering her dog, and then, instead of being the least bit ashamed, she decided to write that down. As if that’s just normal.
https://southdakotasearchlight.com/2024/05/02/noems-dog-killing-was-bad-but-consider-the-goat/
Those pets should pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Your accurate yet unavoidably incomplete list made me reflect on how much the term “pro-life” is inaccurate
I like to say “anti-choice”. Because more often than not, they don’t call people like me “pro-choice” they say “pro-abortion” which is weird…
I like to say forced-birthers.
Which means half of them are worse than that
and also apparently very proud of it
That’s just the average American lol
I would say the average American Trump voter is choose-4-to-10 of those things, but not all at once. (Source: I live in Appalachia.)
Though my I-thought-you-were-mostly-reasonable neighbor seems to be BECOMING a flat earther. He’s already got at least 4 from your list… It’s weird and concerning to watch the delusions accumulate in real time.
The average American Trump supporter is a gun toting, neoliberal, bear shooting, death penalty supporting, misogynist, who believe that LGBT people should be stoned to death Old Testament style, a white supremacist, anti-vaccine, climate change denying, anti-evolution, anti- science, flat earth believing, pro-life, anti- intellectual, sanctimonious evangelical Christian, Islamophobic bigot. Chem trail obsessive, xenophobic and a racist. Also ignorant, stupid, perverted and possibly demented.
I did actually read your original comment… Not sure if you intended to post the same thing a second time. If so, why?
Sorry.
Old news
-Republicans and their media collaborators.
We know. Fucking do something about it.
Yeah. Go ahead. Do it. What are you waiting for?
I don’t live there
Do what
Never leave a child alone with a conservative. Never.
It is not possible for a conservative to see a child as human. Conservatives see children only as property. This is why child sex abuse suspects are typically conservatives.
Conservatives are biologically unable to experience empathy for others. This is why their relationships are so shallow and why they cannot view their family as anything more than property. Without empathy, it’s impossible to develop a deep emotional connection with another human they way a normal person can. A conservative loves their child the way a teenager loves a sportscar. The emotions of ownership can be strong, but they are not deep.
There were quite a few democrats and liberals who visited Epstein island. Pedophilia is not political.
Which is why they were careful with their words. By specifying “conservatives” - not merely “Republicans” - their description encompasses all conservatives, regardless of party affiliation. A huge number of Democrats are conservative.
Careful, context and critical thinking are not their strong suit.
Throw rhwm all in jail. Criminals should not get free passes bc people look up to them or their leadership
I think you are accidentally supporting my position. Conservative liberals and conservative Democrats are known to be named, but I’m not aware of any progressives named in the Epstein Files.
“Progressive” is the opposite of conservative, not liberal or Democrat.
The one true Scotsman fallacy.
Is that what it’s called? 🤣
Task failed successfully, I can think of plenty of reasons to not let your kids around conservatives.
But Democrats aren’t circling the wagons to defend Democrat Pedophiles, while MAGAs are vigorously defending theirs.
I don’t equate conservative with Maga. Maga is a different beast altogether and the appropriate term in this case.
Sometimes I struggle with how strident you can be, but I never find I disagree enough for it to be worth arguing.
Plenty of Democrats in the Epstein files as well.
You’re right, but there’re a lot of conservative Democrats as well…
Conservative Democrats are named in the Epstein Files. I don’t see any progressives, though.
Progressive is the opposite of conservative, not “Democrat” or “Green Party” or any other party affiliation.
But Democrats aren’t circling the wagons to defend Democrat Pedophiles, while MAGAs are vigorously defending theirs.
I’m always surprised seeing people like you on message boards, when reading must be so incredibly difficult for you.
Explosive report? The Katie Johnson allegations have been out there for YEARS. It’s about time someone actually focused on them.
Until this hits Fox, it’s going to be ignored.
