A friend set me up on a date with a coworker of him. then she spent about 20 minutes drawing my astral chart. She had notes, books and even an iPad app.
Eventually she concluded we were not compatible, while I concluded the same about 20 seconds after in.
Would you smash though?
Yeah, I ain’t putting up with that either. People can have their beliefs, but getting my head screwed on straight was a hard fought, lifelong journey. I cannot go back.
Better astrology than witchcraft. I have been through both in my younger days. I do have to admit, the witch was far more fun in bed.
I have a female friend who is an Astronomer. I always call her Astrologer, especially at parties and such.
I guess I missed out on this one, they don’t mind so much if you’re actually funny.
Every straight simp.
Just fuck off with your stupid shit
At least those get laid.
You went to play for the other team because no girl wanted to fuck you, but now you’re just a gay incel.
Oh, it’s even worse in the gay community. I think like 75 or 80% of my gay friends engage in this shit.
Bollox
i roll my eyes at astrology but generally don’t mind a little “folk wisdom” if it helps people deal with the world, though of course it often doesn’t actually really help and just obscures the real reasons behind things.
kinda similar to how i think a sincere belief in religion might actually help someone in many cases, but can also veil the world and make it less accessible.
how do you feel when it actively makes the world a worse place?
because a lot of these folks believe in anti-vaccination and other crazy stuff that is actively harming other people and themselves.
then it’s harmful and should probably be stopped. ideally you’d have empirically verified folk wisdom, but then it isn’t folk wisdom anymore, just science.
the problem is people are willing to commit violence for beliefs.
not so much empirically verified science.
Yeah man, I hear about those roving gangs of astrology girlies murdering people like all the time
I don’t know if the website has been updated recently, but http://www.whatstheharm.net/astrology.html has a pretty good record of the harm various pseudosciences have caused.
I mean, every single of these entries isn’t caused by astrology but by other nonsense.
People fled because there was a warning of a cyclone, not because they believed in astrology.
Numerology is not astrology. People believing in witches is not astrology. Scammers will use anything including astrology.
And if those are the only examples, it really is less harmful then people make out.
This site needs a page on the harm caused by not using HTTPS
I don’t think astrology begets antivax beliefs, though they do both fall under the woo-woo alternative health/spirituality umbrella. I know people who are into one or the other but not necessarily both.
it doesn’t.
but woo-woo beliefs are infiltrating every aspect of life, including places where they do not belong, like public health and the justice system. and that’s problematic for everyone.
It shows a lack of understanding which correlates nicely with other wrong beliefs, some of which are very harmful.
I ditched someone when she attributed something to her star sign, because I have no interest in a relationship with someone stupid
Astrology, tarot, any religion whatsoever
I’m not going to be able to respect them, and no relationship works without respect
I ditched someone when she attributed something to her star sign, because I have no interest in a relationship with someone stupid
I’ve just always seen this as a lack of personal accountability, and that’s a massive turnoff for me.
Like, no Becky, you’re not being a bitch because you’re a cancer, but you are a cancer because you’re such a bitch.
Honestly while I’m secular myself, this stance would lead to me politely refusing a second date.
Yes astrology is daft, but most of the things you and I believe are daft too or at least only locally true and culturally constructed rather than globally true. I don’t care if someone is religious or secular, what I do care is to what extent they believe humanity can know unfiltered truth in the first place. This is a much more important and useful axis in my view than whether they are religious or secular.
In my view no human can know direct truth, they are forced to rely exclusively on the unreliable narrator of their senses and for this reason I don’t trust people who make excessively confident claims about the nature of reality at all, whether religious or secular ones.
So when you buy a coffee do you lecture the cashier about how ‘culturally constructed’ money is, or do you just pay them?
This isn’t the ‘gotcha’ you think it is. I could just as well ask the fedora fanclub how they respond to someone saying ‘bless you’ when they sneeze. The point is there are local truths and there are global truths, and you don’t have undistorted access to the latter. None of us are playing with a full deck.
To use your own example of fiat money, we all know it’s a society-wide fiction but it is kept up willingly and enthusiastically for the reason there’d be a very non-fictional economic meltdown if we didn’t do that. We are pretending a small-t truth is a capital-T Truth for practical reasons alone. The danger comes when we forget we’re doing that and mistake our aggregate belief for reality itself in my opinion.
I cannot stand people who think they are personally exempt from this kind of thing; people who insist their imperfect senses give them full and perfect access to objective truth. These kind of people are dangerous whether they’re religious or secular, I would much rather date a superstitious person who was aware most of what they believe is vague and wooly than someone who calls themselves a rationalist and makes these massive sweeping metaphysical judgements about things.
I’m sure that sounded clever in your head
your premise here is that real things aren’t real.
good luck with that. all I see here is something trying really hard to feel they are ‘one up’ on other people because they have mistaken skepticism for reality.
Seriously why is that lol
because like half of all women are into astrology
like 45% of them is the latest stat. Only 20% of men believe in it
for me, it’s probably 1/3 women who is into it, and they get really really angry with you if you don’t take them seriously when they start lecturing you about it.
because like half of all women are into astrology
In the same way that half of all men are into video games, sure.
they get really really angry with you if you don’t take them seriously when they start lecturing you about it
I’ve definitely had girls explain it to me. And I’ve stepped in it when I teased one too hard, because she just read me as an obnoxious prick (which… in my early 20s… she wasn’t wrong).
But I see astrology get the same treatment as veganism. You mention, in passing, that you’re into a thing. People line up around the block to heckle you and argue with you and scream slurs at you. And for some reason this doesn’t really change you opinion on The Thing You’re Into. It just changes your opinion on dating or on talking to anyone outside your insulated The Thing community.
The way people treat vegans and vegetarians is so weird.
If someone doesn’t smoke you don’t smoke with them. If they don’t drink you don’t drink with them. If they abstain from sex you don’t have sex with them. If they don’t like sports you don’t go to the game with them.
If they don’t eat meat they’re just an asshole.
If they don’t eat meat they’re just an asshole.
mostly because the vegans we typically run into are militant vegans. you know, assholes. if you’re worrying about what someone else is eating and your primary concern isn’t that they get enough to eat, you’re doing it wrong.
One of my favorite scenes that I saw David Spade in was in Grandma’s Boy. The main group ended up going to a vegan restaurant and when they realize it, they made jokes about it to the waiter (David Spade). Then the waiter goes off on the group.
It’s not a hobby though. Or a personal preference like veganism, it’s a belief system based on an incredibly unimaginative fairy tail.
Somebody may very into collecting Yu-Gi-Oh cards but they would quite rightfully be called crazy if they started to insist that they really had magic powers. There is quite an important distinction between an interesting hobby that you kind of suspension of disbelief, believe in, versus an actual astrology theolog who insists that it’s all real.
Star racism is still racism. I don’t make fun of it, I simply reject it as esoteric bigotry.
Yeah, this is what bothers me about it too. It really seems like it’s just a low stakes, socially acceptable way to be a bigot.
I mean the word you want is prejudice but sure star racism is a lot catchier and race is a construct anyways.
Prejudice is much too generic imho.
“Races” in racism are (socially constructed, as you said) classes assigned from conception/birth, which racists believe to have class-specific inherited (often behavioural) traits.
The only functional difference between (classical) racism and the (star) racism of astrology is that one claims inheritance via genetics, the other inheritance via “vibes” from star formations.
Yeah, it’s deterministic sorting. That’s what racism is too. The idea you must possess/lack inherent traits based on your race, for astrology it’s your DOB.
MTBI fans also have a lot of this. The websites play into it by pretending some personality combinations are rare, or that any of it is set and doesn’t actually change every time you take one of the damn tests, or that you can’t force results. So you have the INTJs who definitely think they’re better than and smarter than everyone else, or the ENTJs who are categorized as “visionaries” so they’re totally going to become a corporate CEO once they’re done working on their dad’s construction crew. If there are subforums, you’ll get to watch people fight over their self-labeled categories.
Also to further your point, there are notable periods of the eastern zodiac where people either try to get pregnant or avoid getting pregnant just because of the good or bad luck attributed to some years. Japan also has an actual word for blood type discrimination (avoiding or not hiring AB or B blood types) called bura-hara.
Or you can just have a decent personality. I’ve never had a problem with both not believing in their astrology and getting laid. Just don’t be a dick about it and talk about something else.
Unless of course they’re born Giliac, in which case they need to be rounded up and put in cages for the safety of humanity
What the fuck is this just a guy like narrating the entire episode in the most boring way possible
So it is. I grabbed the first result, sorry.
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She single, by any chance?
Hating astrology is such a leo thing
Damn. I dislike astrology… And I’m a Leo lol. Did you see this in the stars? Is mercury in Gatorade?
Most of the insane women that are crazy enough to spend time with me are, at the very least, in to horoscopes/tarot, so I maintain a base level knowledge on the subject.
They find it charming when I use I Ching to consult the Oracle when they can’t decide what they want for dinner.
I do kinda think there’s a through-line between people into horoscopes and people who never want to make a decision.
