• LemmySuxNow@reddthat.com
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    7 hours ago

    It’s hilarious to me when people whine about GMOs, we’ve literally done this to all our food.

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      4 hours ago

      That’s like shitting on people who whine about AI because scientists have been using machine learning for awhile now.

      It’s not the *technology" most people have a problem with. GMO may have a more open definition but most people are “whining” about GMO companies like Monsanto whose practices are destroying the earth

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        44 minutes ago

        Strong disagree. Most anti-GMO people I know are super conservative and see no issues with corporations destroying the environment

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        most people are “whining” about GMO companies like Monsanto whose practices are destroying the earth

        Then they aren’t complaining about GMOs, they’re complaining about Monsanto’s practices.

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        4 hours ago

        My baby boomer mom doesn’t even know who Monstanto is. She just hears “genetically modified” and believe it means that eating it will modify her genes or something.

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        Yep, I don’t have a problem with the concept of genetically modified food as such, but the way it’s being applied in industry has some frankly terrifying implications (terminator seeds, copywritten genetic material).

        That this got watered down into “GMO food is bad for you, personally, to eat” is very annoying. That now people are like “GMO food isn’t bad for you, so there are obviously no other issues with GMOs” is even more annoying. Like. Sorry this is more complicated than “YES/NO”?

        It reminds me of when people are like “omg fuck organic food, it’s not actually healthier for you” ignoring that a lot of the benefits of organic food are more things like. “Local amphibians and fish not dying.” Not everything is about you and your diet! I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news!

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          I’d like to share a revelation I’ve had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you’re not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to another area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we are the cure.

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    I can understand peoples reluctance to accept GMO crops, but good god we’ve already modified them to smithereens.

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          Typically, modern GMO crops are not designed to use less water, or handle cold weather better. No, they are designed to be sprayed with glyphosate (see: Roundup) and not die. That way, the farmer doesn’t have to weed the field, and corn or other crops can be grown / harvested easier. If they were using the tech for other things, I see no problem with it, but instead, it’s used to sell shit loads of glyphosate and have it sprayed all over the food we eat.

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            And their safety tests focused on how the chemical interacts with human biochemical pathways. They didn’t test how it affects the various gut flora and fauna we depend on. And I’m wondering if it has anything to do with the increased frequency of IBS (though there’s a lot of potential vectors for that, microplastics being another).

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    Grass is much broader than most people think. Corn is my go to example of a grass that doesn’t really look like grass. Bamboo and the reeds next to the lake are also grass. So is wheat, barley, oats, rye and rice. I currently live in a region that’s too cold for legumes and canola so all that’s commonly grown is barley, wheat, oats and ley (grass for cows). I sometimes joke that all they grow up here is grass. Well except for potatoes, they do grow those up here, but quite sparsely.

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      Though cannabis, despite sometimes being referred to as “grass” is not a grass. It is not necessarily a weed either, since “weed” isn’t a botany term but a gardening/farming term for “plant I didn’t intent to grow”, but pot farmers do intend to grow it (it is also not a type of pot or pitcher plant).

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        Thank you for subscribing to barley facts.

        Did you know that barley is the earliest maturing of the grains which made barley the historically most important grain in the northernmost parts Sweden and Finland where no other grain could mature in time. The earliest varieties were ripe after a mere 90 days despite the temperatures in summer seldom going above 20 Celsius. However some parts of northern inland Scandinavia were too cold for even barley and this climatic border also became the border between agrarian Finns/Swedes and the reindeer herding Sami.

        Did you know that barley may have been domesticated for beer before it was used for bread. Yes that’s a real theory that a group of real historians believe. The argument for this theory is that we have earlier evidence of beer brewing than we have of bread baking.

        Did you know barley has a inedible hull covering every grain that makes it extremely annoying to process by hand. Because of this I don’t recommend growing it in your garden. Making it edible with only your kitchen tools would include you having to sift it over and over again. If you’re growing grain in your garden pick a hulless grain like wheat or rye.

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          How did people process barley back in the day?

          Could they just throw the whole thing into brew beer, hull and all? Is that maybe why it was used for beer before bread? Just speculating, I’m neither a brewer nor a barley man

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            When making beer the hull is beneficial because if you use a hullless grain the mash becomes a big sloppy mass that doesn’t really drain well, like a super wet dough. The hull however breaks up this structure and makes the mash free draining meaning you can easily remove the liquids from the solids. Even beer like wheat beer is often still up to 50% barley because of this. Funnily enough the original mesopotamian beer was not strained at all. All the solids were still in there so it was chunky. They drank this beer with a straw.

            Regarding how barley flour for bread was traditionally made. When you grind up whole barley the inner portion turns to flour while the hull tends to come out the other side pretty much intact because it’s quite tough. Therefore you can sift it through a sieve because while it is thin the hull takes up a lot of space in the other 2 dimensions. The house wives of old in barley dominant regions would do this near daily. While this works well it’s of course extra work compared to a hullless grain like wheat where the flour that goes out of the grain mill is ready to use straight from the get go. Of course nowadays we have industrial equipment that can dehull tonnes of barley per second.

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            Barley is the main staple grain of Tibet where it forms a large part of the local culture. The reasons for this are pretty much the same as for northern scandinavia. The fact that the Chinese eat mostly wheat and rice makes the eating of barley in Tibet a very important and unique cultural trait in the region.

            There is six row barley and two row barley. The wild type is 6 row and in the two row barley the other 4 rows still exist but are sterile meaning you only get 2 rows of seeds on a ear. Because ⅔ of the planned seeds don’t come to fruit the last ⅓ gets extra energy from the plants meaning these seeds become larger. These larger seeds are excellent for beer brewing which is why malt barley is typically from a 2-row variety. The 6 row types are mainly used for animal feed and for bread flour.

            You don’t have to grind barley to eat it. After barley is dehulled you get pot barley also called Pearl barley. This is a great filler in stew. You can also boil it like rice.

            While wheat is very sensitive to salt, barley is much hardier to it. Archeological evidence shows that in ancient mesopotamia the amount of barley grown increased over time which has been interpreted, in combination with other findings, as evidence that these lands suffered from an accumulation of salt, making the growing of wheat impossible.

            Malt from barley is not only used for beer. You can also use it to make a sweetener called barley malt syrup. You can also ferment malt to make malt vinegar, a staple in British cuisine.

            The enzymes in barley malt are so strong it’s enough to not only convert its own starch to sugars, it can convert around 8-10 times more than its own content in starch. Traditionally vodka was made from potatoes but because potatoes lack the amylase enzyme needed you also always had to add substantial amounts of malt to convert the potato starch to sugar that can be fermented to make alcohol. This way you can make alcohol from almost any starch as long as you also add some barley malt to the mash.

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      Palm trees are also closely related to grass as well. No rings (so it’s kind of not wood), all one “stalk” or whatnot that’s alive and wet.