Pornography restrictions being codified into law, adult art being restricted from most Lemmy instances, Tarot readers blotting out the nudity on their cards on Reddit.
I’m watching the Magicians, on Amazon, and I use subtitles. All the curse words are purposefully filled in with random letters, so as not to offend the reader.
What’s up with all the prudishness? Can people knock it off, please?
People have vaginas. And titties. And dicks. And asses. They swear. They drink. They fuck. Why is this generation afraid of that? Acknowledging these things isn’t going to increase your chances of being sexually violated. So, what’s the deal?
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It’s the major social platforms pushing people to self-censor, mostly. It’s a well-known phenomenon called “algospeak”, where modifications to the language intended to bypass social network censorship end up seeping into in-person interactions, such as the verb “to unalive”
If I told you my thoughts on this, my comment would be buried.
We can dig.
So? That’s okay. Im not keeping score. Let’s hear them.
adult art being restricted from most Lemmy instances
That one is probably a liability issue. Especially a problem with real-life porn, but even with drawn material, you’ll often get characters which don’t look like adults. So then the mods would have to review each post, which is too much work, and they’d also likely see shit they’d rather not.
Considering this platform is mostly volunteers, if not fully, it’s just not worth it.I wonder if it isn’t a reaction to the number of people blocking all NSFW content? Like if most of your users don’t want to see porn in literally every other post and just block all NSFW as a quick workaround, then the headaches inherent in moderating adult content become much less worthwhile.
And without either blocking specific instances or blocking all NSFW, sometimes over half of “all” is porn.
I’m not anti porn but I find it hard to wrap my head around a user who is equally enjoying half their feed being hardcore videos, 1/4 memes and 1/4 news, all equally and simultaneously. Like “I’m on the bus reading a news article about the economy then I’ll check out 30 seconds of FP blowjobs and then oh, someone posted about a labor strike”? Who is that?
The way lemmy works it makes more sense to just swap to a seperate instance and user and keep your nsfw seperated. Better than depending on apps/frontends having an easy way to filter it.
This was me on reddit and tumblr for most of the 2010’s and it was totally awesome.
Every time anyone was like “omg why are you looking at porn” I was just like “omg why are you looking at my phone” and they would immediately shut up.
I think its hilarious. Just annoying because of societal prudishness meaning its considered inappropriate in public places and work.
Yeah… Uh, what kind of freak would have their feed like that?
As an admin, spot on. People don’t realize that as an admin I and liable for what goes on on my instance. Both financially and criminally. They can kick down my door for things posted, so of course I ban any NSFW, and I have still seen things I wish I could unsee that people have posted.
I always welcome others to spin up their own instance though. They are more than welcome to host it themselves, under their name.
They can kick down my door for things posted, so of course I ban any NSFW
It’s all part of the authoritarian backsliding the world is suffering right now. Big centralized services can shield themselves with laws like Section 230, while wielding the threat of prosecution like a cudgel against small operators that aren’t “legitimate” in the way that big companies get treated and can’t afford the effort it takes to guarantee compliance.
So instead, most would-be operators cave to the chilling effects and users are driven back into the thrall of the big tech propaganda and control platforms.
We don’t need every instance to be a porn site tbh. Lemmy nsfw exists doesn’t it? You are welcome to make another one but its also fairly reasonable to understand some don’t really want to bother moderating a porn site.
To be clear, OP didn’t say “porn” on Lemmy, they said “adult art”. There are contexts in which nudity is not pornographic, but I assume it’s easier to just ban it all and not take any risks, than to judge the artistic merit of each upload before deciding whether it’s too over the top.
The inverse problem exists for creators on yt who make animations that are not kid friendly. Google’s bots love to tag them as for children, and thus demonitize them.
Plenty of instances do allow nsfw content as well though. The important thing is its up to the person running it what they want to bother with moderating and the kind of communities to encourage.
I doubt you would see GasGuzzlersRollingCoal to be particularly welcome in slrpnk.net for example.
So what’s the worst that could happen if some fake artistic character doesn’t have its drawn tit censored?
If that “fake artistic character” is a minor, that’s CSAM in some jurisdictions, and that leaves the instance admin legally on the hook for a whole range of offenses which are punishable by incarceration, huge fines, and/or life on a sex offenders register, and in some places, chemical castration.
So yeah, not near as fucking innocent as you make it out to be.
I didn’t make it out to be anything, I asked a question.
And what idiot country would not just give a warning and say remove the drawing if someone was offended?
I doubt they would use all these draconian punishments as if they didn’t see any difference with someone raping a baby and putting it online.Because CSAM isn’t something you should be giving ‘warnings’ about.
If you’re drawing something that could be construed as CSAM then you need to have a word with yourself but we’re all adult enough to know that some people just like testing where the line is, or knitting where it is and remaining just shy of it then feign ignorance.
Because CSAM isn’t something you should be giving ‘warnings’ about.
Obviously.
But I think the problem lies in “could be construed as CSAM”.
That is subjective.
I think because it’s such a heavy thing people are extremely paranoid and overreacting/self-censoring their art.
Not into manga/anime of which I know some is definitely over the line but for the rest I have never encountered drawn art (w possibly minors) of which I saw the intention as getting sexual pleasure from it.Anyway, this extreme subject aside people are definitely becoming more prudish IMO.
I’d say it’s the exact opposite. Porn has never been as mainstream as it is now, movies and video games have never been as violent. I remember that in the mid 2000s, GTA and Call of Duty were literally demonized because of the depiction of violence.
Now onlyfans modells openly collaborate with mainstream musicians and Call of Duty has stayed just as violent while appealing directly and openly to children. I am on lemmy.world, if I sort my feed by “Hot” and include all instances, I count about 2 or 3 NSFW post per page on average. And I’m not talking some cosplays, I’m talking hardcore BDSM stuff.This goes into the realm of conspiracy theories, but it certainly feels like advertisers have some sort of agreement to stay away from controversial topics, keep the viewers minds clean and neutral. So that when it becomes necessary or more important profitable, they’re easier to sway one way or the other. Don’t think, just enjoy and consume please, and don’t forget to hate who we tell you to hate.
Google AI gave me a summary that other people across the Internet are noticing the same pattern. It said that, because of the massive amount of open availability, people are feeling desensitized and disconnected. As if adult content has lost all meaning. Mostly, because consumerism has placed it everywhere, without any connection or romantic context. That people are actively avoiding it, because it feels empty.
Depending on how you word a question ai will give you totally opposite answers
AIs are not just unreliable they were trained by stealing from everyone. Please don’t spread their nonsense. Even better to not use them at all.
It’s Google. The AI is included. I headed my comment with an acknowledgement that it was an AI summary for a reason.
Nothing forces you to use Google or even read the AI summary. You could have skipped past and read the links to form an opinion yourself, but instead you consciously chose to regurgitate what it said.
less about advertising and more about being cut off from payment processing networks. And that is being driven by anti-porn lobbying group Collective Shout
https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/08/04/visa-mastercard-adult-purchases/
Idk if yall have seen tiktok, bonnie blue is weirdly popular with some woman, they treat her like a normal influencer, wouldve never happened back in the day, “I’ve never watched her corn videos but idk I just like her” type videos are not uncommon lol
I barely can withstand the last paragraph.
Last paragraph fixed.
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Jokes aside, while I don’t have any reliable data on this topic , so only my own perception , it is quite opposite from yours . On tv shows swearing are almost everywhere, due to some aggressive marketing watching porn and being only fans model is destigmatized , only fans models and female streamers have thousands of followers in social media almost the new rock stars . Pornhub most popular search stats by countries etc is discussing routinely over internet each year . Idk is it prudishness to you?
Please define who “this generation” is
Since you used the word define. . . We’re in modern times (as we always are) and Anthropology says that 20-somethings set current cultural standards. You can do the math from that.
Saying that this generation is lazy is far different than asking why this generation prefers certain things over others.
I don’t know what you’re trying to say there, but it’s obvious now that you’re just blaming young people for something you don’t understand
Research is showing that young people are having less sex, doing fewer drugs, and drinking less alcohol. Soda consumption is down. Restaurants are receiving fewer visitors.
Young people set modern culture shifts. With all due respect, they are to blame. The question I’m asking is, why? Not about all issues. Not negging them about their choices. Just curious why the aversion to swear words and nudity.
Most of those things cost money, and the younger generations are poorer than they have been in the past
Fucking is free…
People have viginas
Name one.
LOL 😂️
it’s not a generational issue, but a marketing issue. It’s not “ad-friendly”. It’s also a fascism thing. Performative moralizing and pearl clutching that rightoids use to smokescreen their pedophilia and their other favorite forms of rape. If they can construct an image of being hallowed crusaders of family values, it makes predation easier. because, you know, camouflage. It doesn’t even have to work or be convincing for everyone; all they have to do is hijack the ideologically-possessed simps who line up to suck the same fuhrer’s cock and the flock will immediately surround the wolf to defend them from any scary accusations, and even shield them from accountability when they ARE caught.
Even the fascists who aren’t pedophiles or into other forms of rape are strongly against the idea of women having the autonomy to choose sex work of their own volition.
Hmmmm yeah! Yeah, agreed
And also, Even the fascists that allegedly aren’t pedophiles or other forms of rapist are all, every single one of them, enablers of rape in general and pedophilia specifically.
It’s funny, because I self censored and it triggered someone a few months ago on Lemmy.
It’s even more wild people are getting offended by stupid things like this imho. Almost like they need to be acknowledged to be reminded they’re normal.
The funny thing is, I probably swear more than anyone I know in real life most the time but I don’t feel like I need to make it part of my personality lol
Cognitive dissonance.
I didn’t really question it until all the posts on one of my favorite Tarot subs started blurring out all the nude cards on their readings. Then I remembered seeing adult fan art on Mastodon, and wondered why I wasn’t seeing it on Lemmy. Amazon censoring curse words in subtitles was the final straw.
I hear the word fuck 40 times per day from kids (under 18) and adults. And I can’t read it in my subtitles?
Oh no. Who gives a sh**
Seems like you’re making a big deal about nothing…
I’ve probably come more people whining about this and pretending like it’s about government control or whatever, as people getting offended by swear words
It’s just as bad, if not worse because you’re trying to control freedom of speech. People can choose to censor if they wish.
You can choose to use an uncensored source
I’m not dictating terms. I’m asking a question.
No, you’re telling people how they should communicate, because you’re (ironically) getting offended that some people are self-censoring… Hence the “Can people knock it off, please?”. That sure sounds like an attack…
Just because a lot of us swear, doesn’t mean we feel we have to write swear words everywhere where kids might be reading it.
And, what annoys me, is that, if you weren’t the one who told me off long ago about this, then there is more than 1 person here who are basically trying belittle people who don’t communicate in a way that they approve…
In another one of your posts, you’re also attacking younger people who follow rules…
Beware of complaining about “this generation” - it definitely means you might be over the hill.
Different cohorts are exposed to and brought up with different experiences and media. People brought up in a media landscape that’s personally produced for social media, and subject to scrutiny globally… Are more concerned with what’s socially acceptable. Is that really surprising?
This concept has been called “profilicty”, but was foreshadowed in the 70s/80s by the philosopher Guy Debord when he said:
“We’ve gone from a society of being, to knowing, to appearing to be”.
If you’re raised on videos of people who have hired luxury cars, and mansions to appear like they’ve made it, whilst others are torn down with a barrage of comments for saying the wrong thing… You too might worry about appearances (and your status).
But most young people are fine, they’re good in fact. They’re still new. Don’t worry about them. They’re just young people… And don’t believe the media.
Guy Debord when he said:
“We’ve gone from a society of being, to knowing, to appearing to be”.
Damn. Almost a century later and a century worse.
Beware of complaining about “this generation” - it definitely means you might be over the hill.
Oh no! What can I do about that?
But most young people are fine, they’re good in fact. They’re still new. Don’t worry about them. They’re just young people… And don’t believe the media.
I didn’t say anything bad about them.
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I see two forces working in that direction.
One is advertisements. If you run a social media platform or website or anything similar, and hope to display ads, you better not show anything they don’t want associated with their brand.
The second is the rise of political movements (you know which ones) that have nothing better to offer than “modesty” and “traditional values” (whatever that means) as ways to fix the issues society faces.
Hey.
We have sex scenes - tiddies out - in the middle of the day on regular TV in Germany.
The censoring captions is so idiotic. The spoken words aren’t censored, so that’s ok, but you can’t read a swear word? Censorship is there to placate the dumbest among us.
That’s what I’m saying. I can hear every word, as clear as day. But I’m not allowed to read them?
Not just censorship, but discriminatory censorship. I think it’s a flat-out violation of the ADA to withhold swear words from deaf people.
Absolutely. Deaf people deserve to read the actual script. If only laws mattered in the US.
I see a lot of (also valid) reasons.
But I’m going to say: “They drink. They fuck.” not so much anymore.
The generations are becoming more sterile and cold.
And what bothers me the most is how boring (in general) the youth is.
Mainstream obedient consumers and worker drones.
