Sseth is having a wonderful week, almost like he and the merchants guild have planned all this…
Who is Sseth?
The funny thing is that I have no interest in watching ed Sheeran, and here in Australia, pretty sure a lot of people would rather watch Macklemore
Thank dog I never gave a crap about his music. I look forward to ignoring his future commercial endorsements for CapitalOne Bank and Smirnoff Ice.
stealing the “thank dog” thanku
Which side is wanting the genocide tho? The one with the extinction countdown? The one who mass raped/murdered concert goers? The one that lobs rockets to the other on a daily basis?
Dont get me wrong, everyone fucked up here and children of neither side are responsible. However its not like jews are the grand evil and were never attacked b4. That’s also why most of the international community shuts up about this. They dont have a solution.
Of course as an artist you can point out problems without having the solution. Its easy clout for them.
Another reason to not like “taking sides” is avoiding potential aggravation of fans agains local jews. Its the responsible thing to do.
The side that wants the genocide is the one committing the genocide
Simple as that
Basically both are committing it at this point. Just Israel has more firepower through USA. Things would look worse if it was the other way around. See oct 7 to get a glimpse of that reality. Or Afghanistan to taste unchecked islamism hamas wants to implement.
Go and educate yourself please Look at some numbers And this didn’t start on October 7th. Long before that
The Arab League put a peace offer on the table, under which Israel would withdraw to 1967 borders, and Hamas would recognize its existence.
Israel never addressed it. The answer is Israel. Israel wants genocide.
idk about history that far back. there are internationally accepted borders which are not honored by israel. thats bad.
Oct 7 was a tipping point though.
Yes, we just found out that Netanyahu probably knowingly let it happen, seemingly to stay out of prison, and kick the long, slow genocide into a higher gear. Israel never wanted peace, that’s why Netanyahu helped create and fund Hamas. It wants the land, without the people of Palestine living there.
Bruh. It’s not too late to delete this comment… and your Lemmy account.
Loud minority on this topic is just that. Loud.
You’re not that loud.
Which side is wanting the genocide tho?
It’s probably the side that’s been trying to empty Palestine for 80 fucking years. The whole state of Israel was founded on the ethnic cleansing of Palestine to make room for themselves.
But no, let’s not talk about the slow rolling genocide ongoing since the end of WWII, we have to look at one little event in the last decade and pretend it’s the start of the problem.
Fuck Israel and anyone who supports them. Especially through this mealy mouthed ‘both sides are at fault’ horse shit.
Disgusting fucking comment.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/06/20/un-evidence-sexual-violence-hamas/
“The (UN) inquiry commission said Israeli authorities had not allowed its team to access victims, witnesses, the sites of the attack, or evidence related to rape, sexual torture or sexual mutilation.”
“The commission said it had “not been able to reach a definitive conclusion” as to whether rape, gang rape, sexual torture or genital mutilation occurred because it hadn’t been able to talk to survivors or witnesses or access the places where the attacks took place. The report added that Israeli authorities had actively “obstruct[ed] the Commission’s access to information related to sexual violence” by not responding to requests for information or calls for testimonies, or by banning medical doctors from talking to the commission because they cited distrust about the commission’s intentions towards Israel.”
Tldr no evidence of any rape, Israel actively blocked UN attempts to gather evidence of it and at least two rape claims have been completely debunked.
Only Israeli claims of rape exist.
Wasnt UN actually involved in financing this shit? UNRWA.
Plausible to not trust them any inch.
Israel has funded and supported Hamas too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas
u/Waterpumpee: this is a well worn path for what used to be western civilization, and enshrined in the UN charter than Israel and the US both signed. Using violence for self defense has to satisfy 3 ideas for it to be legitimate. (1) You have to have honestly exhausted peaceful means. (2) It has to be due to a real threat rather than an imagined one, and (3) it has to be proportional.
- Palestinian civilians were never a threat.
- Nor were all peaceful means exhausted by Israel. They never honored what deals they made, going all the way back to partition, and they assassinate negotiators and journalists as a policy.
- And even considering Israels framing of Palestinians as a unified block-- where all Palestinians are somehow hamas killers, which is obviously a bankrupt racist idea and a war crime-- the violence leveled on Palestinians for the last 80 years has never been proportional to what Israel was then answered with. Israelis prided themselves on a 10-1 or 100-1 ratio of victims. If a kid throws a rock they kill the whole family.
Palestinians have a legitimate right to self defense and Israelis just dont have a leg to stand on in terms of a justification for using force. they really never have since the first 5 minutes of Israels existence when they launched the Nakba displacing 100s of thousands and murdering like crazy. Israelis are terrorists. Its really that simple, and the logic of it really cant be disproven.
The western world should be boots on the ground there, today, making sure the israelis respect the UN charter they promised they would honor when they signed the document, and containing them in the land they agreed to stay in when the country was started. They wont do it themselves so they need to be contained militarily for the good of the planet. This war with Iran is another front on their war, and no one else wanted it or gains from it.
The one with the extinction countdown?
Citation needed
The one who mass raped/murdered concert goers?
Remove the last two words and that’s Israel.
IDF’s claims that Hamas committed mass rape and/or used rape as a weapon on October 7th have never been substantiated. Unlike the IDF themselves.
The one that lobs rockets to the other on a daily basis?
that’s still the IDF.
You’re comparing a few primitive rockets with no guidance systems a week to a systematic genocide deliberately targeting civilians including children and somehow arriving at the former being worse.
However its not like jews are the grand evil
Nope, “the jews” aren’t “the grand evil”.
The state of Israel, on the other hand, is a fascist apartheid state that has been inherently and enthusiastically genocidal for 80 years and categorically denies all responsibility for its countless atrocities
and were never attacked b4.
“Those who make peaceful resistance impossible will make violent resistance inevitable.”
– JFK, edited to fit
That’s also why most of the international community shuts up about this
No. Geopolitical mafia methods from the US, Germany, the UK, and other allies of the fascist apartheid regime is why most governments don’t dare point out the absurdly obvious.
They dont have a solution.
They have several, but all of the good ones require that Israel recognize that Palestinians are humans and act accordingly, which is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
Of course as an artist you can point out problems without having the solution
That’s literally the job of any political art.
When Picasso painted Guernica, nobody asked him to propose terms for a cease fire. Because that would be ridiculous.
Its easy clout for them.
Yeah, having some of the most powerful people in the world doing their best to take away your livelihood because you object to genocide is SUCH an easy mode grift! 🙄
Another reason to not like “taking sides” is avoiding potential aggravation of fans agains local jews
Again with the antisemitic conflating of “Israeli war criminals and other Zionists, most of which are Evangelical Christians” and “all jews” 🙄
Its the
responsiblecowardly and complicit thing to do.Fixed it for you.
extinction countdown
Aren’t zionists the ones wanting the world to end so they can see their god lol
Yeah, that’s why evangelical Christians are so gung ho for the Apartheid state:
the biblical prophecies they take literally require all Jewish people to be in the area at the time of Armageddon so that most of them can be converted to Christianity and the rest can be slaughtered.
| The one who mass raped/murdered concert goers?
Remove the last two words and that’s Israel.
They murdered concert goers too. There were hundreds of vehicles in the area of the music festival that had the roofs smashed downward by explosives from above. Hamas had no capabilities to inflict that kind of damage on those vehicles. It was reported by IDF officers that the Hannibal Directive was used to justify “shooting anything that moves” in the area that included the festival, and 14 attack helicopters fired all their munitions and resupplied and continued shooting at vehicles on that day. There were also attack drones used for similar strikes on vehicles in the area with missiles. There are also the reports of IDF tanks being order to shoot at homes in the area that contained captives. The IDF are likely responsible for many of the deaths of Israelis and festival goers.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/explainers/israel-war-gaza-what-hannibal-directive-why-controversial
Nof Erez, a former senior Israeli Air Force official, said that a "mass Hannibal Directive” was employed that day.
“There was crazy hysteria,” one source told Haaretz. “No one had a clue about the number of people kidnapped or where army forces were.”
Heavy Israeli fire was also aimed at a fence between Israel and Gaza. At first, soldiers were instructed that "no vehicles should be allowed to re-enter the Gaza Strip”, according to a security source who spoke with Haaretz. Then an order was issued to “turn the fence area into an extermination zone”. At night, an order was given to "open live fire at anyone approaching the area [the fence]”.
In April 2024, the Israeli army published its findings regarding the death of Israeli hostage Efrat Katz. The report stated: “During the battles and the airstrikes, one of the combat helicopters that took part in the fighting fired at a vehicle containing terrorists - and which, in retrospect… also contained hostages… most of the terrorists operating the vehicles were killed as a result of the shooting, and apparently Efrat Katz.”
The Israeli army also fired at a house at kibbutz Be’eri, where Hamas fighters were holding 15 Israeli hostages. Barak Hiram, a brigadier general, said in an interview with the New York Times in December that he ordered tank shells to be fired at the house as negotiations were now over. “Break in, even at the cost of civilian casualties.” Only two hostages survived.
https://www.rfi.fr/en/middle-east/20231105-a-month-of-israel-hamas-war-has-changed-everything
This link shows a photo of many vehicles with roofs mashed downward, and attributes the damage to Hamas attacks, which really makes no sense at all.
Shema Yisrael, most of the “Local Jews” I know, think it’s very clear Israel has gone way beyond what’s reasonable or justifiable and are sick of being tarred with blood libel by people using their names to defend the Israeli genocide. They’re also sick of being ghettoized by loud, wealthy zionists who are acting as anti-semitic against the diaspora as some of the the actual anti-semites.
Hamas isnt eradicated. You’d just see the same shit happen every 3 years. Of course israel went beyond whats morally acceptable but thats what ed sheeran agrees on. Both sides.
What are you even talking about?
What if you take a stance but that stance makes the genocide worse?
Cunningham is bad ass, always has been.
Based Davos Seaworth
Ed Sheeran is a fucking coward that tried to say he can’t have Macklemore talking about Palestine because of the children in the audience. The appropriate thing for someone with $400m in the bank would have been to cancel the tour, raincheck or refund the tickets and find decent venue owners for the next attempt.
Also, I’m pretty damn sure that Robert Kraft’s stadium gets tax money for something. That should fucking stop immediately.
Won’t somebody think of the children?!? (Not the Palestinian ones)
Kraft also owns the new england patriots. Hate to give those athletes a splash effect of their owner’s awfulness. But I also think thats the celebrity world for you. We have to make zionism as toxic in the business community as it already is in public opinion polls. BDS works.
the NFL world is a tiny bit less left leaning than the music world
Yeah, but people will take any reason to hate on the Patriots lol. Patriots being known as pro genocide might turn people anti genocide just because haha.
He’s an autistic asshole what tf u expect. 😭
he can’t have Macklemore talking about Palestine because of the children in the audience
Meanwhile small children entertainment superstar Ms. Rachel: https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ms-rachel-criticises-ed-sheeran-macklemore-us-tour-1819728
Screenshot of her recent posts on IG:
She’s exactly right too.
He had zero problem being political with Ukraine, when it was pretty universally accepted.
His problem isn’t politics, it’s actually having a backbone and standing up against any sort of adversity.
As always, Miss Rachel 100% on point
Oh, the fucking irony…
Macklemore was vocally against Biden and proclaimed he wouldn’t vote for him.
He didn’t pick a side. I presume he didn’t vote for Trump, but he sure convinced folks not to vote for Biden.
Trump is raping the US and the world right now.
Edit: Fuck anyone who doesn’t oppose Israel’s genocide.
I mean, I was vocally against Biden (in 2020) in a sense of, “this guy is way too conservative on Israel and will probably lose re-election as a result if the conflict there heats up.” Not a very satisfying “I told you so.” I still voted for him in 2020, but I told this to everyone at the time, and with hindsight I was absolutely right. I still voted for Harris in ‘24, but I wasn’t surprised when she lost after all the Liz Cheney/“most lethal military” shit. The job of politicians is to convince voters to support them, not to ignore them, and Biden/Harris were completely out of touch with their own base. This is not the voters’ or Macklemore’s fault, it is Biden and Harris’s fault. Can’t even blame Trump for this one.
he had a song where he called on people to abstain from voting for biden
No. The proper thing to do is take the stage and repeat Macklemores words and cover the song Macklemore covered.
Take the stage and read statements from every act that canceled, call for an end to genocide, and maybe cover some of their protest songs and maybe then.
tell Kraft to such a dick, and if he Still gets paid because he is evil and has good lawyers then learn your lesson and never sign a contract that allows that again. Play in dive bars until the rich fucks cave.
No that’s how you attempt to save face now.
His contracts with all those venues may cost him far more than you’d imagine if he just doesn’t show or drops out. The only telling thing he has done that makes him look really badly is his lack of any statements he could have made by now.
Oh nooooo, it would cost him? How will he eat tomorrow?
…better than children in Palestine, that’s for sure.
Yep and his “promoters decision” cowards framing is spineless.
His soccer team got destroyed by a 16 year old today, too. Love to see it.
It suck for Ed because probably HE just wanted to get cool musician in His tour, and having your friend Maclemore in it, was just that, He supporting His friend. But then Robert Kraft tells you to kick Maclemore or you can’t play in his stadium, to me that fucker should be the one receiving more heat.
Could Ed say fuck you Robert Kraft!?, probably, but it’s not that easy, a tour means a lot of jobs for a lot of people, and now He is the bad guy. I don’t think that He had th eidea to make a tour to shine a light in society’s problems, He just wanted to play music and get paid.
Now Pink, that was just career suicide, when 2 countries are fighting and one has tanks and assault rifles and the other has rocks, and you are Team Tank you are just a douche
Yeah, it’s a hard choice. And, so far, he’s made the wrong one.
Agree. I don’t really care about Ed or even know his music, but when he’s the main attraction for the audience and the host for the supporting acts, he has to be the last one to cancel.
He needs to do that now to save any shed of integrity.
In hindsight he ought to be have coordinated with the other bands outside of the press before saying anything at all. There’s no saving this now, when it already shows that he caved in to the demands regardless of his reasoning for doing so.
And if not then, definitely now. 3 of his opening acts and his own supporting band have now cancelled their performances…
Yeah, he’s proper fucked now. That’s a career killer.
He has enough money to sod off in some luxury resort for the rest of his life anyway.
“Oh, you’re cancelling my concert on a venue I already paid because you suddenly don’t like part of my entourage? Nice! You know the closest court so I can sue the hell out of you for breach of contract? Also: I’m gonna make sure you regret this by being extremely public about who’s cancelling the show and for what reason.”
And that would have made him fill the next few venues just out of spite for the asshole Kraft. But he had to choose bothsiding in a matter that has genociders and victims.
No one would think he was the bad guy if he publicly condemned Robert. More importantly, he could probably sue the shit out of him for this.
Never forget that Ed Sheeran showing up in Game Of Thrones was the harbinger of its inevitable ruin.
And this is why I try to stay detached from entertainers.
It’s great if they turn out to be decent people who are willing to stand up for good causes but it always hurts to find out when they’re like this.
“We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere. When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in jeopardy, national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant. Wherever men and women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must - at that moment - become the center of the universe.”
-Elie Wiesel
Goddamn anti-Semite!
(/s, clearly)
“I hate these filthy Neutrals, Kif. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me.”
-Zapp Brannigan
“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.”
-Desmond Tutu
How long before he caves?
He can’t possibly play his next show, can he? If he does, the only gig he’ll get after this is the Republican Convention.
I wish you were right but…honestly Zionism and genocide are highly tolerated in this country.
Kanye West is also playing at those same stadiums that banned Macklemore.
Well yeah, Israel is more tolerant of antisemitism than antizionism
I mean, practically speaking, he probably won’t be playing his next show given that his touring band and all his other openers quit in protest. So unless it’s going to be four hours of Ed and an acoustic guitar…
His band and opening performers quit. I’m not sure how he could do a show. Apparently with Macklemore on the tour the Epstein class venue owners were starting to refuse him locations to play, so he caved, and now artists don’t want to work with him.
