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I’m not. I just want to visit to get a break from this bullshit, eat some poutine, and fuck back off to my little corner of this mess.
If the morons come here there are many of us ready to ‘receive’ them. Won’t need too much to prepare because they will bring everything with them that we need. We will make Vietnam look like a volleyball tournament.
The title seems to be generating confusion, but the author’s point is that there are billionaire oligarchs (not just Trump, people whose power is not term-limited) pushing to gain control of Canada’s resources. He’s not talking about ordinary Americans nor is he necessarily talking about an invasion or a war.
The playbook here is generally to apply economic pressure with the aim of causing political discontent, while at the same time financing an opposition faction that’s more pliable, like they’re doing against Cuba, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.
Sounds like the same play book that is used with great success in Europe currently.
And did in the UK and US.
I’m not sure the US, with all their “military might” are actually ready to face a war against a border enemy that’s not an underdeveloped country and that is expert on their own terrain and also very dispersed. You can’t just throw a bomb in Canada and kill thousands because I’m not sure you’ll find a thousand people living close to each other in the first place.
Meanwhile, if Canada wanted to reply in kind, they’d just need to send a swarm of drones to any close city like New York and cause a massacre. However, I’m pretty sure it won’t be needed because if pedohitler decides to invade Canada, they’d make half of the US side with Canada.
I don’t want a new war to burst, but hell if I’d not like it to happen and see Magastan get its ass whooped.
Speaking as a dual citizen:
No they’re not.
Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article…
That’s what one of them would say
Who knew Trump took Canadian Bacon (the movie) so seriously.
Only the morons.
True. I am very serious about thinking my President is a fucking moron for wanting to annex Canada.
How can anyone take this article seriously after opening with this clear misinterpretation:
Prime Minister Mark Carney has stated he will return to the bargaining table “when the Americans start being serious.” How much more serious can the Americans be? The Americans have been very serious right from the beginning of Trump’s second term. Trump has constantly repeated 51ST state, governor of Canada statements and now Lake America.
I don’t know how you miss inference “…about a trade deal.” and it not be intentional.
It’s one American in particular pushing it, so it’s a bit funny to use plural, but yes, he means it.
as article points out: that one person is supported by a whole class of Americans - the billionaires. And those in turn are supported by not insignificant portion of American population. So plural is very apropos here.
Pretty much all buisnesspeople hate the trade war, and trade protectionism in general.
businesspeople differ from billionaires in that they don’t get to impact policies and they don’t run multinationals milking both sides of the border
And 1/3 follow without reservation.
And another 1/3 don’t care what happens.
The president represents the country.
Yeah, there is that legal fiction, and typical way of looking at things, so it’s not an incorrect phrasing. It’s just kinda funny.
Nah he represents it
400 million people is 400 million distinct people. Nobody could or does represent them; the idea that someone can represent “the will of the people” is propaganda. Same with every other government; they actually just have control.
A leader that is elected by their country, represents it. It’s a collective responsibility.
In Trumps case, he truly represents it, in every way. Selfish, debaucherous, arrogant, can’t take criticism.
A leader that is elected by their country, represents it. It’s a collective responsibility.
Well, that’s basically the propaganda. Says who? God? Physics? Neither. And, elect how? Some countries have proportional representation, which neither the US or Canada do.
At the end of the day, a state is anything that has a monopoly on the use of force. Some allocate political power within themselves through elections (of many massively different kinds), while some do it other ways.
You could say, “okay, elections have nothing to do with it, but we’re still responsible for what we let our governments do”, and there’s a strong argument for that. But, by that measure pretty much everyone sucks everywhere, which you can take however you want.
And i am very serious about killing any doodle who sets foot in this country with that intent.
I don’t care if i die.
I am not living undet the rule of people who worship curtis yarvin.
doodle
As an American I like this epithet very much and will be sabotaging supply lines to keep the True North strong and free.
MAGA dipshits severely underestimate how many Canadians would actually enjoy taking a break from the rat race to repel invaders.
Are you joking? Most of you couldn’t even fucking handle staying inside and not going to parties when you wanted to. Stop acting like Canadians are hard.
TBF OP was just speaking for themselves.
Asymmetrical warfare is our thing
Because every war you’ve ever been in was asymmetrical?
I kid, I kid…
Yupp…
Act 1 US war of independence founded modern Canada because a) the quebecois ever fearful of cultural erasure, ever relevant today given those US demands, b) those not in favour of a racist dictatorship (yes the anglosphere was turning their backs on a monster they helped create), my family moved to loyalist country, fitting, and c) Britain’s desire to legitimize presence by recognizing first nations,… founded canada. The US invaded thinking we would join but Quebec and the indigenous wanted nothing to do with that genocidal regime. An asymetrical response ended American interests.
Act 2 The war of 1812, the US claims they kinda won because they genocided the Iroquois nation and paved a way for continental-scale genocide … but another goal was conquest of Canada. A goal they failed on every county…britain, its loyalists, and later founders of Canada fought back and said fuck you. Canada 100% repelled the US invasion using asymmetrical warfare.
Act 3 Fuck around and find out.
I think they’d find out Washington Stste, Minnesota, Michigan, Maine, Vermont, New York and probably Massachusetts, California and Oregon would all join Canadian resistance.
You forgot New Hampshire
Act 2 the US claims they kinda won? Is that not the war that is not taught in schools down there because Canada got shit faced and burnt down the white house.
Oh they teach it in schools, but they leave that part out. It is framed as a US victory due to hype and cope
As an Oregonian, I’d like to fight the US along side you.
We were in the big wars (the whole time!), but yes, since then it’s been helping someone else do COIN.
I don’t think you can say that if you’ve never been invaded/occupied by a superior army.
Maybe come over to vietnam and go to some museums or talk to some people if you want to know what asym warfare is like.
Yes, Canadians have no idea what it’s like. We’ve seen even less ugliness than Americans, and when this whole thing started, we had to go to hockey for martial metaphors.
Living in a warzone is a learning curve you can go up fast, though, because you have no choice.
I know someone who served in the Canadian Armed Forces and did a tour diffusing IEDs in Afghanistan. I’m pretty sure he knows how to build one if it came to that.
Americans don’t recognize that Canadians actually did go to Afghanistan. It’s not just Hockey metaphors, people in Canada actually do know the tactics the US military has a difficult time dealing with. That’s because our soldiers had to deal with those same tactics when fighting alongside Americans for two fucking decades. If the US decides to betray Canada they will soon be reminded that Canadians were in Afghanistan and what was learned there.
Yeah, refugees, combat vets, relief workers and refugees are not included. Even just being from a family with those backgrounds teaches you a bit about how the world really works, when push comes to shove, speaking from experience.
The average Canadian on the street lacks the experience to understand, though. Even more than that, there’s been a kind of resistance to understanding it, historically, because it’s easier and cleaner not to.
If OP thinks guerilla warfare is a vacation, they probably don’t know what they don’t know.
It’s also worth noting that Canada has a land border with the USA. They can also pass as generic American, if required.
Asymmetric warfare wouldn’t only be focused in Canada. E.g. a coordinated set of drone strikes could basically shatter large portions of the American power grid. There are too many soft, unmanned targets to viably protect, and the lead time of spares is measured in months to years, on some parts.
Heck a large portion of the American power grid is in Canada since we sell them so much.
I really need to figure out a way to practice American-style vowels.
Do you not remember covid? Your treatlerites rioted in Montréal and tried to do a J6 over the most tepid restrictions. The ones jerking off over a romantic idea of fighting a war aren’t prepared to spend years living without the lifestyle they’re accustomed to and have themselves and their families randomly imprisoned or murdered by the evil empire they’ve served so faithfully. You’d be closer to the conditions of the IRA than Vietnam or Iran, except even they had a history of genocides to radicalize people.
FYI, I’m not Canadian. Just an observer from the other side of the pond, watching America die in morbid horror.
That and inventing new war crimes.
Everybody needs a hobby.
They’re not war crimes the first time
I’d be very disappointed if the Geneva convention didn’t get updated afterwards if this war happens
I wouldn’t. Why conduct the destructive mess that is a war in our own living room?
I’d contribute to any effort to make long range drones that strike energy and electronic infrastructure deep inside the US instead.
Keep the destruction over there. Watch American arrogance melt away as they realize that fighting a war isn’t just some thing they send troops elsewhere to die over while they start comfy and safe at home anymore.
The answer is going to be both.
Drones are the future of warfare. Ukraine has proven that.
But if the US decides to invade, it absolutely WILL send troops over the border. And we’ll be there, shooting them down. Carney may have to undo Trudeau’s silly handgun restrictions for us RPAL holders for the good of Canada.
I’m too old to be a soldier, but I can still hold a rifle. I’m not a violent person, but I will defend my country. I don’t believe that most people in the US support this, but I will shoot to kill any that come across the border with plans to invade.
In my nearly 60 years on this planet, this is the first time I’ve said I will die defending my country.
So yes, in a situation of war we support drones. We support attacks deep within US territory, rather than traditional face-to-face combat.
But we will do whatever it takes to protect our country.
Almost 70 and cannot walk but 2 metres at a time. Strap a bomb to my scooter and I will drive into a bunch of em and blow them up.
Dude why die at someone when you can blast old dude ass at them. That’s dangerous ass.
I am sure we can get you doing other things rather than suicide scooting.
Hello future drone operator
Ohh that would be fun. One little, two little invaders, three, four little invaders …
Why conduct the destructive mess that is a war in our own living room?
shorter supply lines?
If you’re in a war, you’re going to get people dying on both sides of the border.
And it’s going to be hard to procure that many drone parts under occupation, so if that’s your job, you might end up doing car/ATV bombs instead.
If they’re in your living room, they’re in effective control of your area. At that point there will not be long-range drones going (maybe coming in), there will only be direct action by the local populace.
You all were the only ones to burn the White House down. Just saying…
As an American I’d love to help ya, so send others here or grab me I hate the orange nazi
If I go into Canada, it will be to fight on your side
Plenty of Americans are hoping a dumb ass move like that is enough to weaken the morons in charge and join your side.
Like both coasts and most of the bordering states would have majorities on Canada’s side.
Same, TBH. I don’t have a whole lot to lose, and I’m pretty serious about democracy and human rights.
I dont wanna go to worry with the Canadians, they fucking scare me :(
Aww, don’t worry. We like the nice Americans just fine.
I’m American (unfortunately) and I want no part in annexing any country. I actually can’t recall anyone else here who does… Well except big orange wrinkly pimples in DC.
Point of order, I would like to annex a small slice of quiche and a latte
Where do I sign up for this special military operation?
oh damn you just missed it. maybe next saturday at the good german place that makes the best damn quiche i’ve ever had.
this saturday i’m gonna be in stockton eating greek food
Damn that special military operation was fast AF.
maybe because unlike some dictators we know how to plan our special military operations
Trump Always Chickens Out is a disastrous belief
It’s really just a few of us, but they control the media and military so that sucks.
Even if we came willingly, the Republicans wouldn’t really want another California.
Trump doesn’t seem to get that’s what it would be, though. Except also add a raging insurgency, which would most likely spread.
in the hypothetical case of an annexation there is no way Canada would get statehood. they would be just another puerto rico
Depends on the hypothetical, I guess. We’re already handwaving a lot of things.
Trump is rhetorically pretty specific about it being a new state.
