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Nobody is attracted to intelligence. Don’t say you are because you aren’t. You’re attracted to the body. And whoever you’re with is attracted to your body. That’s romantic love. If you’re upset that people don’t love you for your brain, you suffer from body dysmorphia.
I have literally never wanted to fuck someone that I couldn’t have an intelligent conversation with, because, like, what would we even talk about. Can I recognize that I am physically attracted to someone and I find them fuckable? Yes, obviously. But, would I? just because of that physical attraction? No. Just, why? Again, what would we talk about?
Would I marry someone who I found really invigorating and intellectually fulfilling even if I’m not necessarily physically attracted to initially or in the traditional sense and then learn to love their bodies and get really into it? Yes, absolutely.
Human attraction isn’t some weird binary thing and it //certainly// isn’t solely physical.
What about blind people?
Er, no. No, this is just not how humans work. Even if we take love out of the equation and talk only about lust, that can be triggered by all sorts of things and a person’s physical shape is only one of them. A particular look, the way a person smells, how they carry themselves, their voice, their charm, their laugh, and a thousand and one other things can be the thing that makes you want to jump someone’s bones.
You could just go to therapy instead of advertising your mental issues publicly.
Oh man, I am so sorry I told everyone here that they’re physically attractive. Okay. You win. I’m insane. You’re right. You’re all ugly monsters who will never find love.
You’re not even trying to understand why everyone disagrees with you. In fact, you’re refusing to even acknowledge that you could be mistaken in your premise that people aren’t attracted to intelligence, and instead lash out.
That is why you need therapy.You’re not even trying to understand why everyone disagrees with you.
That’s fine. They’re not even trying to understand what I was saying.
In fact, you’re refusing to even acknowledge that you could be mistaken in your premise that people aren’t attracted to intelligence, and instead lash out. That is why you need therapy.
Are you being serious? Or just attacking me like the other person? Because I’m pretty sure if I go to a therapist and I show them these exchanges, they’re not going to say that I’m the one who needs therapy.
No, they will.
You unilaterally claimed that nobody is attracted to intelligence, that everyone is just pretending and they’re really only attracted to physical appearance. Even as hyperbole, that is a wildly unhealthy thing to believe, and you absolutely called yourself out.
No, they will.
No they won’t.
You unilaterally claimed that nobody is attracted to intelligence, that everyone is just pretending and they’re really only attracted to physical appearance. Even as hyperbole, that is a wildly unhealthy thing to believe, and you absolutely called yourself out.
What’s wildly unhealthy is loving the person you’re fucking in the same way you love your mother and sister and grandma. I’m not the one calling myself out.
everyone except me is hiding the truth about what they really feel, but I know the truth!
That’s the position you’re going to double down on, in the face of everyone correcting you? No, the therapist won’t think you’re crazy at all.
You think you’ve found a gotcha, but you’re still just outing yourself. You think that a romantic relationship involves a single type of attraction, and that a single type of attraction affects sexual arousal? If I believed you capable of long term romantic relationships, I’d pity your spouse.
i’m asexual-ish but not sex repulsed. i don’t care for the body, i care deeply about the mind
For sexual people, it’s about the body and the problem with Internet nerds is that they’re hyperintelligent and hypernegative and think their bodies suck and want people to be sexually attracted to their brains. But their bodies don’t suck, and they’re not physically ugly.
I can guarantee you every guy here who’s moping about being lonely has dozens of women masturbating to the thought of them every night. And their not masturbating to thought of them programming in C++.
If that was even remotely true then the entire idea of seduction wouldn’t exist. Convincing someone who didn’t want to sleep with you to sleep with you wouldn’t be a fucking thing, you absolute moron.
you absolute moron.
Jesus Christ! Friendly fuck, ainch ya. This proves my point about the hypernegativity. I’m telling everyone here, they’re good lookcking, and the response is I’m fucking moron. Damn.
To address what you’re saying about seduction: You can’t sell a bald man a comb. A woman isn’t going to be romantically involved with you if she doesn’t want to. You have a spooky level of cynicism regarding this.
Look at your responses and your downvotes. Obviously nobody agrees with you. If you weren’t a moron you’d maybe look at this as an opportunity for self reflection and growth.
Am I the only husband that truly values and loves my wife’s brain and mind and intelligence and spirit and soul and kindness more than just a body?
Bodies are fleeting. Fall in love with the person, not the flesh-mech-suit.
We’re on the Internet so you’re probably in the majority. But the vast majority of people marry someone they want to fuck. Sure, the mind and spirit is part of it, but I love the mind and spirit of my cat but I don’t want to marry her.
Also, this is just plain wrong.
Some women are attracted to intellectual minds.
Some women are attracted to physical strength, some women are attracted to maternal instincts, so on and so forth.
The problem is this question is usually being asked by someone who thinks that responding to every factual statement with an inflammatory counterpoint qualifies as intelligence.
Also, this is just plain wrong.
A greentext that’s wrong? Highly unlikely.
wrong and homosexual, as per usual
Allow me to make an inflammatory counterpoint to demonstrate my intelligence: this text isn’t green YOU BUFFOON!
Got em
😰
It would be like claiming it contained misleading statements and was not heteronormative.
Not on this Internet!
We need a new internet
Is it still under warranty?
Ah, damn, we might have to ask the US military…
Chance in a million!
Now I don’t know if that means it has to happen (if it’s exactly 1000000:1, according to Pratchett) or if the front fell off.
The weird definition of intelligence they are using (how to succeed in life) does kind of cover that. The definition of what success is, and the millions of ways of achieving it covers just about all variations.
From what I’ve observed, intelligence doesn’t count for much when it comes to “success in life”, whatever that might be.
True, in today’s times much higher chance of success is having wealthy parents and not having problem exploiting other people, but it wasn’t always like that.
Though given that it is 4chan, I agree with responder that OP mixes incelligence with intelligence. I’m not convinced that sitting on a forum full of memes and Nazi ideology is something that an intelligent person would be interested in.
LMBO Some say he’s still in the burn unit to this day
I feel attacked
Speaking of juicy mammoths, who’s the lady in the picture?
Some thirst trap which is ironic since she’s holding a drink
Asking the important questions.
iidazsofia
Probably what he considers his bottom in terms of women he’d date.
Incelligence is a heck of a term.
!brandnewsentence or however to link a community
Should be word of the decade.
women are people with choices
they make different choices
Impossible. If women had choices, then they’d have a diversity of off-spring with a wide spectrum of forms, traits, and behaviors.
We know that can’t be the case, because all men are identical and perfectly interchangeable, except for a tiny variance in peak performance which they use to sort themselves from Sigma to Omega for the purpose of obtaining Da Big Sequesy to produce more Sigma clones.
😭😭😭
Incidentally it’s true. Granted I’m asexual but I’m only attracted to intelligence.
It’s usually “how to succeed in life” intelligence, not “realization of abstract k-skeletons as k-skeletons of intersections of convex polyhedra in R^2k−1 in life” intelligence if that doesn’t make you money.
Metacognition, hot
Cognition, not
Thinking about thinking is just brain masturbation, which is the pinnacle of homosexuality.
Being a homosexual, I know that thinking about thinking/brain masturbation is unfortunately universal, thus simply the pinnacle of being a cunt.
See also: emotional intelligence
What about the women that is into pepe lore or WW2 theory?
I cant decide if there’s more or less of them than the ones that’s into 4chan incels?
They don’t exist. If women get into pepe lore or WW2 they grow male genitalia. It’s not well documented but it happens quite a lot. The body starts producing massive amounts of testosterone and the stress ages and disfigures the women and also effects their memory. Most of the male incels on 4chan are former super models who got exposed to pepe lore or WW2.
Taking a wild guess: I feel like there may be a few more women into history than sexism.
What about the women that is into pepe lore or WW2 theory?
They are irrelevant, because they are both Fake and Gay
Can confirm: am a woman named Gayle “Gay” Fake who can’t get enough cartoon frog facts and FDR/Göring slash fiction.
This is true, i am the FDR
Hey there, handsome!
FDR/Göring slash fiction.
FDR foot fetish
Kinda bordering a strawman here, but if I said
why are men attracted into the airhead type?
there would be bunch of dudes saying they are into intelligent women, and that it’s just hollywood.
Men are attracted to the “airhead type” because those women are good at making men feel good about themselves and keeping up lively conversation; and though people usually prioritise companions who have the same interests as them, they enjoy talking also to a lively conversation partner, perhaps someone as-different-from-themselves as possible: someone who surprises them.
Many men feel that all women have the “airhead” quality - no, not as in they’re all stupid, but as in they’re lively and conversational in that stereotypical way that disrupts the man-to-man conversation; and though they do not speak to men as equals (preferring to talk over them or jerk the conversation off on some other tangent, perhaps, or dwell on uniquely feminine topics which baffle/disinterest the male listener), this is seen as no big loss, really. For women are different to men, and their presence in our lives is welcome precisely because of that rather than in spite of it.
The important thing to remember is that people change overtime and every person is more multifaceted than massive media would have us believe - so yes, that is “just Hollywood.” Who’s to say why a man likes an “airhead,” she probably has more depth to her than you know about.
Edited to change one comma into a colon, and formalise grammar in final sentence
Zach is like Randall Munroe for people who prefer eyes to not be attached to heads 🤩
Is this an egg meme?
I mean, that’s a fun take but realistically there are plenty of women who put a lot more stock in looks (just as men do) an immediate financial ability.
That jock who got a job that’s physically demanding might be making more out of high school, but the IT nerd who went for they education and got a good tech job was likely on a slower burn path to self-improvement with better pay, possibly improving looks over time (or at least less of a beer belly). At least before AI started killing the tech sector again, so maybe the jocks will be coming out ahead for awhile.
Also, there’s also nothing wrong with being a good dude with average intelligence who works hard. Just don’t pick an red-hatred idiot. And intelligent nerds who don’t learn social skills can absolutely still become nasty incels.
The thing there is that when people say “people are attracted to intelligence” the intelligence people think of is different than the type people are generally attracted to.
Highly analytical intelligence is a type of intelligence. So is the ability to make correct choices in a variety of situations.
Almost every athletic endeavor entails being able to assess situations quickly and accurately, and know how to respond. Team sports require group coordination, training and predicting teammates behavior.
That’s intelligence, but it’s often considered a lesser sort than the analytical sort.It’s why people see the people doing work that requires the type of less prestigious intelligence as less intelligent, and see people being drawn to them as proof that people aren’t really drawn to intelligence.
To be blunt: it doesn’t matter how strong you are if can’t read or get confused by the garage door opener every day.
It’s the same as saying that people aren’t attracted to appearance because plenty of people are drawn to normal attractiveness people.
That’s actually a good point about sports intelligence. Pro athletes likely have a certain almost instinctual grasp of certain physics even if they aren’t running the actual numbers in their heads.
You can take away the qualifiers. :) and it’s not instinctual, just practiced.
The notion that athletics doesn’t require intelligence draws away from the understanding of exactly how much practice it takes to hone the skills to that level.And, for a fun reference, the typical NFL player has significantly more traditional education than the average person.
Women like beer bellies, and big forearms.
Everything men hate, women like.
“Just don’t pick an red-hatred idiot” took me a sec to parse.
It’s a typo but the intended group still fits! Love it.
Yeah I meant to your red-hatted but hatred seems to come with that package too so…
I wouldn’t put too much stock into the jock versus nerd stereotypes.
Life isn’t an RPG with stats that come at the cost of other stats. Being bad at sports doesn’t make someone more likely to be good at school (if anything, the correlation might run the other way). And charisma, ambition, intelligence, physical appearance, athleticism, work ethic, are all distinct factors that sometimes feedback on each other, and feed into things like wealth, happiness, attractiveness, etc.
Life isn’t an RPG, but there has definitely been a push by certain groups to value looks and strength or martial prowess over intelligence and education, particularly in North American culture. Yeah, somebody can be an athlete without being dumb, and as another person pointed out there actually a lot of high-speed decision-making that requires intelligence to pro-sports.
At the same time, there are people who very much lean towards looking buff, tough, but not too bright as they categorize intellectuals as losers or socially unwanted. Similarly, there are girls or women who will emphasize their looks and actively hide their intelligence. Il This over time leads to a willful ignorance that IMO is worse than simply being of lower IQ or lacking education.
I’m not aware of any culture in which hiding one’s strengths is a common response to one’s own surroundings. Placing value on a particular characteristic does not imply that a completely unrelated characteristic is undesirable. Plenty of beautiful smart people out there, and even in a society where beauty is prized above all else, why would someone beautiful hide their intelligence?
For whatever it’s worth, in my circles (urban white collar millennial professionals in dense cities), most people are both athletic and intelligent. There are plenty of finance bros and tech bros who have Ivy League degrees (sometimes Ph.D.s, M.D.s, J.D.s) that represent real academic achievement and can also turn around and dominate on a basketball court or in a fighting gym. Lots of smart people like gyms, whether we’re talking resistance training, Olympic lifting, CrossFit/Hyrox, endurance cardio sports like marathon running or biking, winter sports like skiing, etc.
That’s also consistent with what I saw in my high school. Most of the top students headed towards Ivy League or similar caliber schools were also athletes who were very good at a competitive sport for the school. The “nerd”/“jock” dichotomy we expected from John Hughes movies never really materialized, and the popular kids tended to be people who were both good at school and good at sports.
And yet where do you think the demographic that voted for the guy that shits his pants and falls asleep comes from exactly, and moreover continues to double-down on supporting him even to their own detriment? How about the people who modify their trucks to spread black smoke just to “own those pissy hybrid drivers and cyclists”?
The continued attempts to enumerate activities that would have fit on Jackass (and likely watched the same on repeat).
Never knew a pretty girl in school who got good grades but hid then and played dumb?
There’s plenty of people who embrace an absurdist mentality and openly reject anything that requires actively using one’s brain.
And how do you succeed in life? Step 1 is to have rich parents. The term commonly used for those seeking out people from rich families is gold digger.
If your only measure of success is wealth, that’s kind of sad.
It’s not, but anyone that tells you wealth doesn’t matter, is either lying or trying to sell you something also.
If your only measure of success is wealth, that’s kind of sad.
Wealth for wealth’s sake, possibly, but i’m not gonna start throwing shade at someone else’s life goals.
Wealth is , however, a good baseline to build upon to achieve other metrics, up to a point at least.
You have already failed. Success is not measured in wealth.
If you are having a good time with friends/family around a fire pit with a total cost of £0. You are succeeding more than the richest man on earth who can’t get anyone to genuinely like him.
But enough about Elon Musk.
It’s possible both scenarios included Elon Musk.
I don’t think he has friends
I was more thinking he could be in the fire.
For those three hours, then they have to pay rent, buy food, pay bills. And try to survive, which wealth makes immensely easier.
Sure I guess, but its not like it has to be difficult to pay for all that stuff.
Living I’m south east UK and even at minimum wage its pretty easy to cover essentials. If you think spending more on things you don’t need will make you happier, that might be where you are going wrong.
The first time I felt like life was alright was after leaving school and moving out. Despite on paper being vastly below the poverty line. It didn’t feel like it, I could afford rent and food, didn’t really know what else to spend my money on. GTX1060 isn’t something you need to buy many of.
Main thing to reduce living costs is just share a house with other people. Our rooms still had their own locks so its not like anyone could go through my stuff.
That is existing NOT living. your wife going to live in that “room”? Kids? Anything resembling a vacation? Ever being able to go out?
Damn you’re brain washed.
And that’s in a country with free health care and decent minimum wage and social support. That shit don’t work outside UK/EU countries.
Minimum wage is much lower for apprenticeships, plus I was only working 11-5. Once I completed the apprenticeship I started earning regular minimum wage. Saved most of the difference for a house deposit.
I didn’t say I did nothing, just that I didn’t spend much money after essentials are covered. Tbh, still don’t.
After work go to the beach, drink a can of cider, cook up some hotdogs for dinner and have a swim - it costs me under £1.
Been going out fruit picking lately, mostly plums, apples and blackberries. That costs £0 to do and you end up with delicious food out of it. Or lately, been making wines from some of them which was a small one time cost for some bottles.
Gardening and allotment, £50 a YEAR rent for the allotment and get a pretty big space from it. Still a WIP as I am new to that but I get to chat with people there along with grow my own fruit/veg. Before that I just had my small garden which I use to grow herbs.
If this is just “existing”, I feel like I would question who is the one that’s brainwashed.
That’s great!, when your done patting yourself on the back and thinking only about your own situation. You might want to consider 80-90% of the rest of the world’s population where those safety nets DON’T exist…
So using the same logic I can dismiss the problems of Americans because of Sudan?
