• i_love_FFT@jlai.lu
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    3 days ago

    I give you Terry Pratchett’s Sourcery:

    This book does not contain a map. Please feel free to draw your own.

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    4 days ago

    They really dont. Dont get me wrong, on my current reread of the Robin Hobb series, yes I enjoy looking at the map cause I already know the story.

    But generally speaking I dont read fantasy for the geography.

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    4 days ago

    Great book but mapmaking could use some work. One of these is a lush rich planet, and the other is a near-barren moon. Which one do you think is the moon?

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    5 days ago

    Idk I listened to the entire Stormlight Archives and never thought to look up the map. When I was younger I would have agreed, but now…

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      4 days ago

      I recently reread Eragon and Eldest which I loved as a kid. I thought it was so cool to flip to the back of the book to read elf and drawf translations. This time I found it gimmicky and annoying lol

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        4 days ago

        I’m listening to the audiobook. This time I just remember the meanings. The important ones at least

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    5 days ago

    I also don’t think you need anything beyond a very rough map which sometimes can be directly inferred from reading the book. Anything more is like cover art or illustrations: it competes with my mental picture while I read it and I don’t prefer it.

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    5 days ago

    The original Dragonlance book, Dragons of Autumn Twilight, didn’t need a map. Because a major plot point was that all the maps they had were pre-cataclysm and over a hundred years old. They had smaller local maps, but no explorers had stitched them together as 100 years is short to do that. So traveling over the map outside of where they would normally be in their lives, meant they couldn’t be sure where they were going or where they’d end up.

    They went to Tarsis-by-the-sea to take a ship to cut down their travel time, only to find it had become a dry seabed.

    They did still have a map, but much more local to where the group started out and lived. I suppose that’s why in most fantasy settings, you need a local map, because big world ones like Tolkien had require a lot of stability over a long period of time, along with trade and a market for large map.

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      4 days ago

      My absolute favorite book series. I’ve probably read the first trilogy 5 or 6 times. I do love your point about the maps being pre-cataclysm but there were some smaller maps in the book that I appreciated having

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    5 days ago

    This reminds me of when Ultima Underworld first came out in 1992, and it came with a map of the first level printed on a piece of fabric, and it looked hand-drawn. I was 13, and I have never played a complicated adventure game like that before, so it was extremely extremely helpful in figuring out how the game worked and how to visualize the levels of the game moving forward. Plus, as the character had a map just like that one, it really helped with the immersion.

    Considering that, 34 years later, it is still resonating this strongly in my memory, I’m definitely in favor of maps being included in fantasy stories.

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      5 days ago

      By then, they’d already been including such maps for close to a decade!

      I don’t recall if Ultima III had one, but IV certainly did. Not to mention those glorious manuals.

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        5 days ago

        I discovered that when I ended up buying Ultima VII next lol

        Sadly, ultimate underworld ii did not come with a fabric map, but one printed on paper 😔

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          5 days ago

          I miss the days of high production values for every part of the game. Obviously the majority of games from my youth (after dinosaurs and the invention of color, but not much) were mediocre or even flat out shovelware, but the greats are still shining achievements.

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    5 days ago

    reminds me when i read 100 years of solitude without family tree, big mistake, but on my defense i didn’t know what i was getting into and it was before the Internet