• systemglitch@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Haha, I was selling a whole racing chair/wheel/shifter combo for my partner’s dad and he got it for the PS3, so it came with around 10 games. I used dirt to test it, ended up deciding to keep it for myself in the end.

    BUT my account and downloaded games also worked, because I didn’t hook it up to the Internet (which after reading this I shall never do).

    That shit should be illegal. They should be charged with theft and treated accordingly, or at the least get the shit kicked out of them; the way we used to treat thieves in the good old days.

  • DupaCycki@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    If 40 year old consoles can resume back to normal, so should 10 year old consoles.

    However, it should be noted that the PS3 is now 20 years old.

  • Abyssian@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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    2 months ago

    Yes, yes that should be a normal expectation.

    If you buy a game as a kid, play the fuck out of it, then end up tossing that console in a box or closet for a decade as you grow up, then when that nostalgic urge to play your old game again hits you should be able to plug the console in and play again. Not told that your Xstation account was deleted because you didn’t log in as ButtholeSurfer696969lol in the last few years so all of those purchases no longer exist.

  • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net
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    2 months ago

    Uhh… Yes I do expect it to resume back to normal. Why the fuck wouldn’t it?

    Sure, if I connect it to the internet I expect all sorts to updates to be missing. But offline? 1 day or 100 years shouldn’t make any difference. OK the CMOS battery might be flat.

    • ryper@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      The case in the tweet wasn’t a hardware problem. Apparently the person’s PSN account had gotten deleted during their 10+ years of not using it, and downloaded games attached to the account didn’t work any more.

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        2 months ago

        And

        1. the account shouldn’t have been deleted

        2. the account being deleted shouldn’t stop the downloaded games from working.

        Both are Sony’s fault

        • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          especially considering your account takes up…what…a few dozen megabytes at most? its nothing but a database with what games you bought digitally.

          its 100% purely an attempt to get customers to double dip on buying shit by exploiting changes in life that take people away from their recreation.

          have a elderly relative take a bad turn and suddenly need 24/7 care? According to Sony, thats a great, magnetizable event.

          suffer a terrible injury that takes you years to recover? Sony’s Salivating over the potential of taking everything away from you, so you can buy it again to relive the “good days”

          have to join the military and spend years from home? Your trauma is dolladolladollar signs for Sony’s executive department.

          • jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org
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            2 months ago

            Even for accounts that haven’t gone inactive, I’m sure they’ve considered disabling games for older generation games. “Continuing to play PS4 games rather than buying a PS5 is theft!!!”

            • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              Yep… the capitalistic Ouroboros is coming around to the back of its own head, so long term stability and profits no longer matter, all that matters is maximizing short term profits…at any cost.

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          2 months ago

          Yeah, but playing a physical copy of a game would be a fairer comparison to older systems.

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        2 months ago

        Imagine if some Sony executive broke into your house and stole the games off your shelf because you hadn’t played them for a long time. Thats what happened here.

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      2 months ago

      OK the CMOS battery might be flat.

      Arent they mostly flat to begin with? Sorry… I couldn’t help it.

  • d.rizo@piefed.social
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    2 months ago

    Just plugged it in and gave it a try… My NES still works… The “just plugged it in” part was a bit tedious,… finding the right adapters,😅🤣

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    2 months ago

    My PS Vita spent years in a closet, I charged it and it was as good as new (maybe the battery needs to be swapped), so yes.

  • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    That’s why I’ve never bought a digital game on console. For years, my strategy was to buy AAA games physically on console and indie games on PC via DRM-free services. Now that Sony is stopping physical disc production I won’t have that option anymore, but luckily none of the AAA studios make anything worth a damn these days.

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        2 months ago

        Nearly every cartridge-based system up until the 3DS n the cartridge. But many older cartridge games from that era (SNES, GBC, sometimes GBA) used volatike SRAM that needs to be constantly powered with an internal battery. When the battery dies, the save is wiped and it can no longer hold a save, though you can always open the cart up and replace the battery.

    • kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      You’re telling me I’m going to have to replace the batteries and replay chrono trigger and Pokémon emerald again? Oh the horror

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        2 months ago

        Pokemon Emerald’s battery is only there for real time clock functions. Saves remain intact even after the battery runs dry.

        Gen I and II games used the battery for save data, however.

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          2 months ago

          Yeah you’re right. Bad example.

          Looking at the list on Console Mods I’m actually surprised how many GBA games do use a save battery when a lot of games clearly didn’t need it for saves. Did the battery allow for faster saving, or maybe just cheaper cartridges?

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            2 months ago

            It was a cost/availability thing. SRAM was used all over the place prior to the GBA (and for some early GBA games) because FRAM and flash memory was expensive at the capacities needed.

            Funnily enough, most games that use SRAM can have the chip swapped out for an FRAM chip, and they will no longer need a battery. (Actually you move the ROM chip from the SRAM board to the FRAM board) The two types of RAM present identically to the game’s software, so it just works.

            The Pokemon games use Flash RAM with 2x-4x the capacity of the SRAM and FRAM chips most other games used. There was also EEPROM for games with small save files.

      • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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        2 months ago

        It sucks when you borrow a friend’s SNES and didn’t realize that was a problem and their saves suddenly disappear (along with your current playthrough on a different save file) and you worried you somehow did something to cause it.

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          2 months ago

          And with how small most save files are, you can even store them in a folder on a cloud service without taking much space. So if something happens to your computer for drive with your legally backed up personal cartridge and disc images… You still have those save files.

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          2 months ago

          If you have VR, I highly recommend EmuVR for all console emulator needs.

          Plopping yourself on the ground in front of an actual CRT is such a different and incomparably better experience than playing them on flat LcD screens, it really pleasantly suprised me.

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            2 months ago

            I’m guessing the VR applies some type of CRT like filter to the virtual CRT? Or is it just a nostalgia thing?

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              Kind of both. It’s basically a frontend for emulators, where you are in a most archetypal 80s room, with a large CRT TV that runs the emulator, and you get all your roms as physical discs/cartriges on your shelf, with emu cores being actual consoles you connect to the TV, put a disk/cartridge in, and then you can sit in front of the TV and play.

              It’s extremely immersive, the games feel so much better on an “actual” CRT TV.

              https://youtu.be/73XVOeRuu9A?t=237 It’s not as apparent in 2D without VR, but you can get an idea at this timestamp.

    • NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social
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      2 months ago

      If I drop an RPG for a month I have difficulty picking back up my ongoing savegame. I can’t imagine how hard it would be to continue a 30 year old savegame.

      • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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        I’m mostly referring to completed saves of Kirby and DKC-franchise. The first is a collection of games you have to unlock, so if you just wanted to play in the arena mode, then you’d have to play through a whole lot more just to unlock it.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      GBA? The kids these days. I have an original Zelda cart for the NES that still holds save data.

      My Atari VCS (this was before they were calling it the “2600”) was manufactured in 1978. It’s 48 years old, and if I slap E.T. into that son of a bitch, it plays.

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    2 months ago

    The dickhead replying is so fucking dumb. If the console was physically broken in any way, then the discussion could be about planned obsolescence or regular wear and tear or how it was stored. But the console DID survive. It did “resume back to normal”, but it is artificially rendered worthless by the company.

    We could talk about how long a console should physically last, with issues like the red ring of death being an example of them not lasting long enough, but the idea that Sony says you didn’t play frequently enough so you no longer own the things you paid for is absurd.

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    2 months ago

    If the PSN account was deleted, this is less a PS3 issue and more a digital software licensing issue.

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      2 months ago

      i would say that it’s a PS3 issue due to being dependent on licensing issues prevent a user from playing games they own

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        2 months ago

        But the PS3 isn’t preventing them. The fact that their PSN account is deleted is preventing them. I can play my games on my PS3 still.