• timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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    30 days ago

    That and his lesser touted positions are NOT popular outside deep blue NYC.

    I love the guy but he isn’t winning the Midwest with ALL his positions and it’s stupid and basic to think that. No one in Wichita wants government run grocery stores for instance.

    They certainly can take pointers from him but there’s a full cemetery of progressive candidates who have crashed and burnt outside deep blue areas.

    He’s exactly what NYC wants and needs. He wouldn’t be for every single place across the country.

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        30 days ago

        Think about the reddest, most homophobic, bigoted, capitalist, Fox News brained person you can think of who thinks Black people are animals and Hispanic people are all drug smuggling cartel members and “illegals” “deserve” the camps. Now double the bigotry and then imagine a whole town full of that, and, like, one single scared gay kid. That’s not every town, but it’s a frighteningly large number, because America is a massive place and unfortunately with a continent this big you’ll end up with clusters where the outlier becomes the norm.

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          30 days ago

          This was probably almoat 20 years ago, in a small rural (like 5k people) Illinois town I used to love in. We were outside doing some yardwork, and this guy comes door to door selling some kind of cleaner.

          Black guy. Which I mention because its relevant.

          We chat for a bit, he demos the cleaner, at one point his friend calls so he takes the call.

          The friend, also clearly a black guy, is basically saying he is done and ready to leave and basically half the houses threaten to shoot him and keep calling him n***er.

          This is rural America, in general. This is MAGA.

          Anyway, we bought some cleaner, it seemed to work on the outside mold spots on the house.

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      30 days ago

      Except we basically already have that. Rural areas are littered with food pantries because rural people tend to be poor as fuck. Maybe they are run by voulonteers now, but why not cut out the hassle and add in some guaranteed funding and efficiency?

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        29 days ago

        You don’t have to convince me. You have to convince them.

        Look at Oklahoma- they just voted down a minimum wage increase. You think they’re on board with government run grocery stores?

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      30 days ago

      Also true yeah. But “leftists” on here can’t get to that.

      The country is big. Big, big. Slogans only go so far.

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        29 days ago

        Being a champion of establishment is the biggest self own in those states, both deep red and blue states.

        Nobody want a status quo, when the status quo means everything is getting worse around them. Between status quo or a hail Mary, they choose a hail Mary as it’s better than consistently downgrading

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      29 days ago

      Isn’t the midwest just saturated MAGA, white Christian nationalist and plain ol’ white supremacist? People who vote for centrists but not progressives have long since devoted their lives to the Trump god-king. They don’t care about anyone other than themselves, and may turn around because they’re personally hurt by the economy. But in that case, they’re voting against the incumbent, and don’t care who the opposition is, even if it’s a proverbial sack of potatoes.

      At this point Trump is personally responsible for everyone losing money. At least everyone but the handful of guys getting pardons and government contracts out of him.

      Harris lost by playing to the center, and an awful lot of polls are telling us that progressive platform ideas are popular.

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        28 days ago

        If you think centrists are fans of trump I don’t know what to tell you except that’s so far off I can’t believe it’s a thought.