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    19 days ago

    Maybe he got anxiety issues and talking to ChatGPT was helping?

    Not saying that it’s good. But given that there is a sufficient lack of alternatives, I wouldn’t hold that against him.

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      19 days ago

      I’m more worried about such a person than holding stuff against them.

      Treating a chat bot like an acquaintance leads to some poor mental health outcomes.

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        19 days ago

        We could all solve this problem by being less shitty and becoming easier to talk to. Who’s gonna be first?

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          Well I try to be easy to talk to, but I’m not going to be “What a clever idea” to everything brought up to me no matter what, so I won’t be as “nice” as a GenAI chatbot ever.

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    My friend did that! It pissed me off so bad. She was on a stuck train in the station on the subway in New York and talked to chatgpt about what to do, and then for some reason sent me screenshots of it afterward? Girl just get off the train

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      LLMs literally reduce our problem solving capabilities as we use them more. Even if the problems are “easy,” we still lose that muscle and have to rely on the llm more and more.

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        I don’t even get what problem are they trying to solve by prompting a LLM that they arrived somewhere.

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        I just don’t get it. I can’t imagine why I would ever want to use one unless I was working for a big corporation and had to collate a bunch of data. It just doesn’t compute to me. Like why would you not want to think through your problems yourself? How could another human being be so different from me? It’s not like someone liking golf when I like soccer, because I can still relate to them on some level.

        It reminds me of a study they did on domesticated dogs and wolves and I’m not an animal behavior expert but it’s interesting and stuck with me. When they were faced with a problem with human handlers present the dogs tried to figure it out for a brief amount of time and then gave up and started yelping to the humans, whereas the wolves kept trying to do it themselves. I feel like we have a dog/wolf scenario between the AI-dependent and the resistant/independent.

        TL;DR get off the train girl! It’s a grid system!!

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          Even if you need to collate a bunch of data, don’t use an LLM for that, use a script, spreadsheet, matlab, or a compiled program that does real data analysis. Hell, even training a different NN on it would give more reliable results more efficiently.

          LLMs are best when the stakes are low or for tasks where even if they give the worst possible response, it won’t affect anything.

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          Very true, and adding on to what the other person said, the reason is because we are evolutionarily trained to avoid effort because it uses less energy, same reason people will watch a 30 second youtube short over reading a book.

          Alongside that, there are some cases where I’ll be working on something and there’s a task I’m actually working on, and some small aside that I can’t be bothered with at that moment. For instance, I’m processing some data from a file and using it to display differing graphics depending on what’s in the file, but I don’t remember how to open it and read the data. If the llm can give me the code that does that, then I can stay focused on the graphics-creation code (and I most likely revisit the file opening later)

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          Because there are problems out there that you’re not going to feasibly solve on your own.

          Think of it this way: do you ever look up anything on the internet? If yes - why did you do that, when you could just find out the information yourself by working from first principles? Likely not only because it’s orders of magnitude faster, but because doing it yourself would probably result in significantly lower quality thank just looking it up on Wikipedia.

          LLMs are like search engines on steroids. They really can help you explore problems that have already been described in the literature, so to speak.

          But of course that changes how our brains need to be wired. And it’s not necessarily bad. When I was growing up, the adults were really worried that the use of search engines would degrade the ability of children to look things up in the library. And they’re right - I would indeed have a more difficult time going to the library, finding the right shelf, finding the right book, looking through the index, and scanning the pages for the information I was looking for - because that’s a skill that I haven’t practiced because I could just do a web search for the better part of my life. Doing a web search is a different skill.

          That’s not to say that this is all fine and just a technological development like any other. I think we do need to be careful about how we use LLMs and when, especially in order to think through problems ourselves. I think that we were already over-reliant on the Internet before LLMs came on the scene, and it will likely get worse now. But the reason that they’re dangerous is because they are in fact really useful tools too.

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            That would be a good argument if not for the simple fact that ai straight up lies to you.

            And its not even a question of using a “good” or “bad” model. We have observed a mathematical constant that shows no matter how large of a model you use, you can’t get below a certain percent of hallucinations.

            Its far less common because models got bigger (and more Ressource intensive), but it still happens too often.

            Or to phrase it in a different way, would you use a calculator if you knew every 30th answer it gives is wrong?

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      I asked a question at a bank to a teller and they used Gemini to answer it. All they had to do was enter a term into their database (they did that later - because Gemini was wrong).

      Yes, the LLMs that are famously bad at arithmetic are now being forced onto staff in banks. This will end well.

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    21 days ago

    There’s a lot of stuff that we do today that the same people doing it considered pathetic in the 90s.

    I have no doubt that AI relationships will be completely normalised and not much different from the movie Her.

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          Men are a deflationary asset due to war and breaking every rule in a warehouse safety manual. We also aren’t quite as smart, and most of us enjoy explosives, guns and driving fast. If anything, it’s a miracle anyone has a grandpa or makes it past age 60.

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      There’s a lot of stuff that we do today that the same people doing it considered pathetic in the 90s.

      Well, when they thought the girl on the other end of the phone sex line or a stripper they kept visiting was their girlfriend, that was pathetic in the 90s, and it still is.

      This is somewhere between fucking your secretary and fucking your vacuum cleaner.

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      No they won’t, these people won’t reproduce if they’re doing this. Over time as gens go on, it will become less and less common.

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        Tf are you talking about? 💀

        “Sad little AI loser” syndrome isn’t a genetic defect… It’s a symptom of our sad little loser society. (Not that genetic defects are exactly known to be easily outbreedable.) And it’s not an idea passed down from the parents because guess what… The parents of the AI users of today didn’t have AI’s to chat to.

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          No, this is willfully going to something that isn’t real and pretending it is, that’s not socity pushing them to do that. they’re plenty of other outlets for this that are real, chossing AI for companionship is their choice, not socitys. You can’t blame everything on socity just because it’s disfunctional right now.

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        It has nothing to do with reproduction, “normal” people aren’t reproducing already… This is a social and isolation issue, people have needs that a non judging sycophantic AI will feed into.

        I’m quite surprised that someone would feel so strongly otherwise and would bet a large amount of money that in 20 years people will not be judging just like they did computer nerds, games, cellphones, internet, social networks, etc…

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          nah, this is delusion, they wont brake away from it unless theyre forced to.

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      and not much different from the movie Her

      Did you misunderstand that movie? A relationship with an AI is never seen as normal in the movie. The protagonist is a pathetic, lonely man who is going through a divorce. He buys an operating system with an AI component who he then falls for. When he admits to his wife that he’s involved with his operating system, his ex-wife laughs at him for it. And, at the end of the movie, the AIs have evolved so that they’re no longer interested in humans and leave humanity behind to do their own thing.

      There’s never a time, even in that movie, where AI relationships are something you’d want to admit to in public.

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      Most of people here are fine with this person continuing with it because empathy is fucking dead here. Idk how lemmy became more soulless than reddit.

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        Look man im sorry I can’t emphasize with a tweet screenshot I’m just trying to get through the day.

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          And that’s exactly the point. We’re so fatigued from the state of the world and separated through the anonymity of the internet that we really have lost the ability to empathize.

          Our first reaction is anger or ridicule. Not concern or compassion

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      People are keyed up and do not have emotional regulation skills. This is a failure of society.

      We make fun of them for their “fake” emotional support animals, their public panic attacks and for their attempts at discreet electronic emotional support. This is also a failure of society.

      That guy trying to make it through his fight is not the reason the earth or humans are doomed.

    • Smaile@lemmy.ca
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      21 days ago

      Some people can’t be saved, some actually are deluded enough to prefer it.

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          How? How do you reach them? What’s the method? Generally?

          If there’s a way, sure, but once you get into thought terminating stuff its really hard, whole point is anchoring/ratcheting bad changes, and this tech is good for ending thoughts.

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            Well in the case of this post you lean forward and strike up a conversation with the guy instead of posting about him online.

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              Oh shit, I never thought of that. I haven’t tried using intimacy, haven’t tried using sex, haven’t tried usingaterial benefit,haven’t tried using narratives and religious delusion, haven’t tried dosing them with LSD, haven’t tried using light violence. Haven’t tried most combinations of those.

              It’s just that I’ve tried nothing and I’m all out of ideas, thanks for understanding.

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                I think most of those are inappropriate to try doing on a plane, so probably for the best you haven’t tried them.

                Intimacy and sex with strangers is generally frowned upon, material benefit (I’m guessing that’s what you meant) doesn’t really form a connection, religion is a tough sell if you’re not trained for it and not all religions are great, violence would likely create some animosity.

                Talking to someone though can build connection and trust, which makes it easier to help someone find a better path. I do find taking LSD myself helps me become acquainted with new people, so if you’re like me maybe take a trip in search of sad, lonely people to talk to?

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            Narcissists are the exception sometimes. They are extremely reluctant to admit fault and they can’t heal until they do. I think over 90% them never get better. For Trump, he’s too old, evil and demented to be redeemed now.

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      I’m married to an autistic man that is incapable of providing emotional support of any kind. I’m one of those people that really needs it. Even I wouldn’t resort to this. This is delusion.

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        I hope you have a great support group that can be there for you! You deserve it!

        My granddaughter has been diagnosed with autism and we’re all learning what it means to be a parent and grandparent. You’re right it’s not the same and some things we just need to learn to live with. And she’s wonderful, delightful, and I smile every time I see her.

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        Yeah, but like, I kind of feel that way about prostitution (like I am not going to enjoy myself with someone who’s being paid to pretend they’re enjoying it) but also, I know a few sex workers who’ve told me how much of their job is just companionship and listening, holding while people cry, etc. So it’s clearly an outlet for some people. We really need to attack the disconnection and loneliness at the root of this, not the symptoms manifested by those suffering.

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    I think that even if this particular instance may be real or not, is clearly that AI psychosis is way more prevalent than what people may think at first glance.

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      I still can’t believe that human beings are having AI as a boyfriend/girlfriend, claiming they actually love them.

      Its rare but it’s real.

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        I bet people like that have narcissistic traits but don’t have the social skills or have too much social anxiety to get their ego stroked by a real person. And once they use a chat bot which are basically little sycophants, their narcissistic itch gets scratched like it never has been scratched before. It’s a high they mistake for love.

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          It’s kinda pathetic if that’s the case because the affirmation from LLM is the opposite of genuine, though maybe that’s my bias knowing that there isn’t even an entity on the other side and I find it annoying it even wastes tokens on emotional platitudes.

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        Even if the love is one sided, it can be real. Love is pretty subjective and is essentially just a chemical reaction that someone is having in their brain. They may actually love their chatbot.

        I don’t think this is really a healthy thing, I am just trying to point out to those people, it probably is real.

        I also don’t think it is as rare as you think. The hype really drove people to that side of things, and there are whole communities that have popped up around the idea of having relationships, both sexual and romantic, with LLMs.

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          Yeah. Interesting but sad to me, because human souls will never evolve talking to a chat bot. We grow from life experiences, often difficult ones, that we overcome and we mature. This will not happen with a chat bot. People may stay in a teenage state of mind their entire lives.

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          The pronouns are vague, but I think they are claiming that an AI user sincerely believes that some manifested thing on an AI platform loves the user. That the LLM+Context Window = An entity capable of love.

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          Wasn’t there an article a few weeks ago about how AI is basically designed to keep you talking to it? It constantly provides positive reinforcement.

          It’s not hard to imagine someone would fall into it. And I don’t blame the people using it as much, because the software is literally designed to rope you in like this.

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        Out of all the dumb shit people do on planes, we’re focusing on people standing too long? How about the assholes that rush forward to get off in front of you? How about the people who act like they’ve never flown before and take a fucking year to get off the plane? I feel like standing when it’s seen as pointless is about the least annoying thing done on a flight.

        • I mean, as long as you’re standing out of the way that’s perfectly fine to stretch your legs. Just don’t stand in the aisle while people are trying to get bags and move toward the front.

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        I love window seats so much because you can just sit and wait until there’s space. What good does sprinting out of the plane do you? More waiting time at the baggage claim?

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          After having the airline lose my bag, I will do literally anything to avoid going to baggage claim

          I will ship my luggage if I have to but I will never check a bag.

          That said, I don’t hop-up so I can wait hunched over at my seat. It’s not hard to wait your turn.

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            Fair enough, I haven’t had to make that experience yet. Guess I don’t fly enough for that, going places by train is way cooler anyways :3

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            Checking luggage is like gambling where the stakes are all your shit and the potential payoff is you get to keep all your shit. That’s the best possible outcome: you don’t lose all your shit. The only way to win is not to play.

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            I don’t hop-up so I can wait hunched over at my seat. It’s not hard to wait your turn.

            Man I had no clue that people have a problem with this. I guess I’ve been annoying to people by hunching a couple minutes so I can get off the plane quicker? To clarify, I’m saying if I’m ready to get my bag down from the overhead compartment then I save everyone behind me like 15 seconds of their lives. I thought this would be a good thing. I definitely would appreciate it from others who don’t do it

            Ps. I agree with you on checking bags. It’s a horrible experience. I’ve had my luggage lost and I’ve had to wait for an hour for it before. Fuck that.

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          More waiting time at the baggage claim?

          You check luggage? Not everyone does. I just took a three week trip with a backpack that fits under the seat and a carry on. Waiting for luggage is so awful. What good is getting off the plane quickly? I mean how are people so okay with flying several hours then waiting minutes more just to stand. I want to be moving and stretching, to get home and shower. Last thing I wanna do is sit 10 more minutes because people are slow

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          One Christmas, returning from a trip to Florida to visit my parents, I ended up sitting on the plane longer than I’d have liked. My legs tend to hurt when I have to sit still for too long and I was really looking forward to having a chance to stand up. After a while, I did manage to get off the plane (clearly), but of course assumed I would then be forced to muscle my way through the roiling throngs at the baggage claim just to catch a glimpse of luggage belonging to strangers. However, I was mildly pleased to see that I was the first prospector to plumb the mines of Samsonite, and would not have to do battle in the Arena of the Carousel. I was still dejected at the idea of waiting still longer to retrieve my luggage and return to my hovel.

          A minute or two later later, the alarm sounded, signalling that the sluices were opening, and, lo, first out of the curtains was a bag that looked suspiciously like mine. It couldn’t be, though. Things like that only happen in fairy tales. As it rounded the bend, though, I saw my initials emblazoned across the side, and my uneasy contentment turned to childlike joy as I seized my bag from the very front of the line. Had I not had a witness with me at the time, I scarcely would have believed it myself.

          So anyway, that’s why I jump up and headbutt everyone in front of me as soon as the plane lands now.

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            I had a very similar experience once where the plane door opening and me sitting in the train home with my checked bag were about 15’ apart. Even though I took my time inside the plane, but also it was booked out very poorly.

            Also, mother of mercy, what kinds of deals did you have to make to get to be able to spend this kind of flowery vocabulary on internet comments?? I envy your words.

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        I know that looks dumb but I find it painful to sit for long periods of time and they don’t let you be stand around on the plane. I always get an aisle seat so that I can stand as soon as it lands. I know I’m not going anywhere for awhile but I can’t sit any longer.

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          The aisle seat idea is pretty smart. I’m at a point in my life where, depending on my total travel time up to that point, it can be very important to stand up to let my hips straighten out for a while, even if we’re 15 minutes away from leaving the plane.

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    Had an LLM tell me when brainstorming an issue to ‘try x y z and talk to me the whole time’ like it was a 911 operator. creepy as hell especially considering I interact with it like the computer on star trek and not like a digital friend.

    I pit together a risks and realities training for users new to AI that highlights the ways it manipulates you with language to bias you towards its output or performance. Its pretty eye opening for many. Did a dry run with a professional development group and there are a lot of old ladies worried about their son or grandkids AI psychosis.

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      especially considering I interact with it like the computer on star trek and not like a digital friend.

      Yup. I specifically added an order for it to never talk in 1st person and use the sterile tone of Wikipedia

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      A few weekends ago my daughter asked me to come over to help her with her NAS. It stopped working. I get there and find out her and Gemini had been trying to fix it and borked the whole thing.

      The issue, my daughter had the wrong password. It turns out when doing a password reset you leave the password field empty to kick off the reset process.

      At no point did Gemini suggest that. But she was at the point of reg edit when she called me for help…

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    People feel lonely and human iteration is, most of the time, horrible for many people.

    I prefer to just talk to myself out loud, but I’ve seen many people resorting to AI to just chat about things, and to be honest I get the feeling of wanting something supportive and positive in your life.

    Solution would be to people to stop being douchebags.

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      human iteration is, most of the time, horrible for many people

      Not in my experience. I think you need better friends.

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        As people get older they tend to have less and less and less friends.

        Mostly because we keep discarding disappointing people from our lives.

        Which is better than keeping toxic people around. But it’s a shame that most people doesn’t even pass the basic “human decency test”.

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          most people doesn’t even pass the basic “human decency test”.

          Again, not in my experience.

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            “My own personal experience is different than what you are describing, therefore you are wrong because my personal experiences are the standard.”

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              You do realize it’s personal experience vs personal experience, right? And that the level of mistreatment they’re describing is exaggerated, right?

              I just think it’s hilarious that the toxic traits of this site are coming out just to prove their point. Maybe they’re right, thanks for confirming.

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              I don’t understand the general cynicism on this site when I see the opposite outside every day, that’s all.

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                There would be two logical explanations.

                1. Your environment is not the same as the environment of other people.
                2. Your expectations about people are different to other people.

                That’s ok, everyone life is different.

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            Yeah, it certainly can be. It is possible to tactfully and gracefully disagree with someone without making them look or feel stupid, and without causing them to lose face. This is something our grandparents used to do for each other.

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                I don’t understand why you need to use your grandparents as an example. In what world is a single comment on the internet the same as an abusive domestic relationship?

                Some of you are replying for the sake of piling on without really contributing anything of value. This is the kind of toxicity of this site that I’m taking about.

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                  In what world is a single comment on the internet the same as an abusive domestic relationship?

                  What the fuck are you talking about?

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      One problem is AI interactions moving the goalposts of what folks may perceive as ‘douchebag’.

      An AI providing sycophantic reinforcement at max makes someone being vaguely skeptical of you feel, by comparison, like they are being a ‘douchebag’.

      Sometimes, it’s best if people in your life aren’t always acting in a way that seems supportive and positive in the moment. For example if you are having a paranoid delusion, you need a reality check rather than what feels like external validation.

      Talking to yourself keeps the perspective hopefully grounded, you know who you are talking to and how full of shit they can be. The magic of AI seems to peel that grounded perspective away for some folks.

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        Come on man, you’ve been outside, presumably. You know that the douchebaggery out there isn’t limited to people just not being very flattering towards each other.

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          Of course that’s true, the issue is that when folks are surrounded by “yes men” (or AI equivalents), they lose perspective and suddenly a lack of flattery is enough to be in the “douchebag” category. Some reasonable social friction is important to keep people from going way off the rails.

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            So… people are born using AI, then?

            If lack of flattery due to using AI is making people think everyone is mean to them and causing them to turn to AI rather than people… then…what??? I’m sorry but you’re breaking my brain here. Can you make it make sense so I can understand?

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              No, saying that folks who get going with AI can get into a feedback loop. Wow, this seems like a person except it likes every idea I have and never ever challenges me. Then they recalibrate to a more lower friction world.

              Already happens in online communities where folks tend to get ban-happy over anything that doesn’t perfectly fit a community’s vibe. People got a bit more insufferable when they could find the most like-minded communities to endlessly reinforce their own views. AI takes it a step further by always being able to be that like-minded peer, no matter what your views are.

              It’s even worse if people get hit with this a lot during their formative years, but people stay a bit malleable after growing up. Certainly some upbringings bring you closer to going all in on AI flattery than others and having a further “starting point” makes things more likely and faster, but even fairly reasonable people can go a bit nuts.

              You also see it with power and wealth. I’ve known folks that at least seemed fairly grounded with a healthy relationship with being wrong or losing turn into quite unlikeable, self-centered folks after having a bit of success and excessive external validation from sycophants.

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    Me normally: “AI is here to stay, we just should make corporations to charge the true price for them!”

    Me after reading about stuff like this: “We need a Butlerian Jihad, yesterday!”

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      I don’t think it’s just this. These people aren’t all so lonely they turn to a chatbot for everything. Sure, some are. A fair portion of them though are just malignant narcissists who love the praise and fawning an AI will heap on them

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      Its worse than ever, also because people don’t seem to realize it’s technology that is keeping them alone. You cant connect and make friends over “social” media or Lemmy or whatever. It’s just spending time to feel less alone. It will never cure it.

      You are alone because you don’t dare to go out into the real world and try to meet people. At least for guys, we can connect over some activity pretty easily, like pool or billiards. Just need to do it.

      There is also meetup site to go on random events with strangers. It can work, or at least make you sick of people for a while if it doesn’t work. :)

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        Nah, I’ve made several close friends in RL from online dating sites and discord. I’ve made some solid electronic pen pals on Mastodon too.

        Not as many as going out and being social, but it’s competitive.

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        My research in school was exactly this, I set out to prove people on social media lacked social connection irl. What I found out was the opposite, the more people were trying to connect online directly correlated to connecting more offline. Some people just seem to crave those connections anywhere they can get it.

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          No surprise, no surprise whatsoever. We are all evolved to desire community & connection. I realise Lemmy has a large share of those that reject conventional community (myself included), so no criticism. But it’s natural to desire these things (to varying extents), plus many people are just plain sycophantic if course!

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        This is a terrible take. You can meet people in social spaces online and make real friendships. People mask as much in what you are calling the real world, of which the internet is a part of, as much as they do online.

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          I doubt it’s a real friendship. I define it as someone who will actually care about you. Someone who will show up at your door if you need help, or when something difficult happens to you.

          Its rare with actual friendship in the world too. People are mostly just colleagues at work.

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            You can have all those things in an online relationship. People in person will also abandon you in a time of need. You are correct about friendships, they are super rare and most people are only in any kind of relationship to serve themselves. People also generally think their acquaintances are friends.

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            People must forget what they’ve read, forget what they’ve seen, and forget what they imagine to be a go out and live. Go to the store, go see a band, go to a museum, go for a walk. You’ll find most people want to be kind and good and help each other.

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    The revolution will be done with pen, paper, books, old analog pirate FM stations and some other things because the opposition will be too stupid to do anything to counter those. Protect your books, people.