It doesn’t “ban them from a list”, they’re just not on the list under “Christian”.
Ask any Mormon if they’re just a flavor of Christian, and they’ll be quick to tell you why they’re better
They don’t have a problem with drawing a line, they just don’t like it when they’re on the minority side of the line which is what this is about.
They’ll call far right Christians “them” all day, but don’t like being called “them” by anyone.
Since Americans famously shrank English words due to length
Christians should pay 1/3rd more taxes than Mormons
Yours, a jew
Edit: this is a joke, I am not a Jew
I thought it was the military list of protected religious rights, meansing the Mormons would have no recourse if they were asked to do something that violated their beliefs
Yes, the main thing here is they’re feeling a sense of Othering that they all grew up being told was a thing that happened to Mormons, but they didn’t really believe it because they were loyal republicans and the majority of them live and die in the bubble of Utah and the surrounding areas, so they’re a force to be reckoned with even when not the majority. Those of us who grew up Mormon (i got better!) in the Bible Belt knew that the evangelicals would never accept Mormons as fellow Christians. More understanding groups wouldn’t make a thing of it, even if they have the same theological distinctions, but the Bible thumpers were always going to insist on semantic cleansing once they had their hands on the levers of power, and if the Mormons don’t accept that they’re only as good as Jews and Muslims, they’ll get slapped down even harder by a truly Christian Nationalist regime.
Thanks for pointing out that there’s no ban on religions in the military. I’ve heard this blown way out of proportion a few times.
I believe this is mostly about what religious texts the military provides, clergy services and burial services. I think theres some other small things as well but it’s mostly about the military’s obligations
Mike Lee is quite possibly the dumbest Senator alive.
Dumbest Senator Alive, Wednesdays at 8/7 Central time, only on FOX!
Tommy Tuberville would like a word…
The word being “uhhhh.”
You mean “duhhhh”
I was going to go with that but I thought it made him sound too smart. “Duh” has become more of an interjection or exclamation while “uh” has retained its simplicity as a marker for lack of thought.
He’s an owl exterminator
Here’s an idea, let’s not have a list of “recognized” religions at all.
And while we are at it, Mormons and Christians and all of the rest should pay taxes, they’re disgusting vampires.
Here’s an idea, let’s not have a list of “recognized” religions at all.
If we don’t have a list of legally recognized religions, we won’t be able to rationalize pogroms against the illegal ones.
Don’t you want to purge the county of Muslims? Don’t you want to send all the Jews to Israel? Don’t you want all those Communist Atheists rounded up? I hear a bunch of them work for the CCP.
Don’t you want to send all the Jews to Israel?
Nah, I want Israel to not exist
But it does, Blanche, it does exist!
Well, that’s just antisemitism.
Mods! MODS! If this was Reddit, you’d be so banned right now.
There is a valid purpose. Sikhs have special requirements for grooming. Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Buddhists, and Hindus have dietary requirements. Quakers are pacifists. In general having a list of religions you’re prepared to accommodate is valuable for a military
“To accommodate the pacifists, simply don’t tell them what militaries do.”
It’s important for drafts where pacifists often get sent to working in military hospitals or other lifesaving nonviolent roles. “You ain’t allowed to kill? Cool you’re gonna do nothing but save the lives of folks who can.”
And UXB squads. Pacifist doesn’t mean no balls/labia, and you need a big swingin’ pair of 'em to sit and de-fuse a 500lb. aerial bomb.
No, lets have that list, and tax them appropriately.
You don’t need a separate list if everyone is getting taxed the same.
“but how will we know it’s a hate crime!”
-they coordinated to attack a civilian population/gather spot
But I didn’t think the leopards would eat MY face…
“tear down that wall”, Hegseth has no idea what you’re referring to. 😆
Watching him actually show some emotion was the funniest part. Plus, Hegseth might actually know where the quote comes from, since it was a revered Republican.
Recognized? We are so far gone from 1776.
The title is bordering on misinformation. They didn’t “ban” Mormons; they re-categorized them to no longer fall under the Christian umbrella.
Ho ho…it’s all smiles till the Fucker In Chief gets around to fucking you.
Waaah my fake religion was called fake. Go cry into your magic diaper about it. I hope you go to heaven sooner rather than later.
Look, fuck Trump and Pete from the bottom of my heart; but Mormonism quite literally does not fit within Christian theology because they deny the divinity of Jesus.
This doesn’t need to be a religious claim on my end for it to be accurate. Christians in the US only started thinking of Mormons as part of their club because they couldn’t stomach voting for Obama as the Christian candidate over Mormon Romney.
They don’t deny the divinity of Jesus. It’s more that they have a neo-Arian view of the trinity that the godhead is one in purpose but separate in form, and Jesus is the literal son of God the father (they do NOT game out the repercussions of this in a coherent or sophisticated way, but it’s what they believe). Theologically, they’re sort of polytheists, but the death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth is an essential part of their belief system. So, it really comes down to whether you’re willing to allow certain belief structures rejected by the Council of Nicaea to continue to call themselves Christian, or at least to nod politely at their self-identification, or whether you make academic theology the hill you will die on in terms of culturally significant labels adopted by ostensibly areligious bureaucracies. It sounds counter-intuitive, but there’s more than one way to define a Christian.
The Mormons are absolutely reaping what they sowed by throwing in with MAGA, though, and you know the Romneys and Huntsmans are snickering somewhere with a glass of wine, which they can have because they did double-secret off-the-books Temple shit.
I grew up Mormon and can’t believe who they are now. Granted I was in Jersey, so things were a little more “progressive”.
But you’re right, they are reaping what they showed.
I do have to say though, that the council of Nicea should be used as an example of why Christian religion is bullshit. (I think all organized religions are bullshit. Mm)
Let’s get a group of guys together and decide by committee what it means.
Then change that meaning as the overarching world culture evolves over the milennia.
“You know what? I know this has been part of our beliefs for over a thousand years, but God just changed his mind.”
Ex-Mo here who grew up in Northern Florida. Where I was, the LDS community itself had to be fairly chill because there’s no sense in trying to tell the kids to ignore 99% of the population for friendship and dating, and getting too publicly self-righteous just riles up the evangelicals.
Funnily enough, I also landed on the idea that all organized religion is bullshit. Not that escaping a high-pressure sect (Diet Cult?) is the only way to get there, but I do think the extraordinary truth claims the Church makes means that when we leave, we tend to evaluate all other religions in that same light, plus they were never shy about pointing out what everybody else got wrong, LOL.
Nice to hear a similar perspective from someone else.
I was fostered by someone who was the Bishop for a local branch. He was completely tolerant of everyone. Because of that time spent with him, I thought the church didn’t give a shit about race or sexual orientation, they were all about community support and helping each other.
Then I went to school in Oregon and it was almost a completely different church.
I noped out of that real quick, but, as you said, it forced me to question everything about LDS, and that just naturally progressed into an overall skepticism.
I now know my experience was not the norm but when I think of my time there (I was a child so my experience was through that lens), I remember being taught to help whoever needs help, no strings attached. That every person was loved by God, regardless of who they were.
Then years later the church is a MAGA haven. I really cannot reconcile my experience with that. 🤷
Mormonism quite literally does not fit within Christian theology
I have it on good authority that it is the only religion that TRULY fits within the Christian theology, and it’s all you other guys who are wrong.
You guys should get really mad at each other and start thousands of years of war, pain, and suffering over it. It’s the Christian thing to do.
How many thousands of years of wars do you think were caused by Christians?
At least, two.
At least one thousands
I mean, most Christian dominations are rather chill nowadays and recognize each other. The differences are largely in the details and organization.
But Mormonism literally extends the Bible with some American Exceptionalism shit. Might as well list Catholicism under Judaism if sequels to holy scriptures that alter pretty much everythivg count as the same religion.
most Christian dominations are rather chill nowadays and recognize each other
I mean… kinda. My Jewish father peaced out of a Methodist service that he decided was too antisemitic for his tastes. I’ve sat in Catholic mass where the priest was a very thinly veiled White Nationalist. Second Baptist, in Houston, only exists because too many rich oil money shits decided the First Baptist Church was too Woke.
We’re not at 30 Years War levels of interfaith schism. But there’s definitely bad blood, if you know where to look.
Mormonism literally extends the Bible with some American Exceptionalism shit.
Plenty of the American Churches do that. Hell, even the chill ones. My friends go to a Unitarians Church that do readings from the Declaration of Independence and Emancipation Proclaimation. I’ve been to churches that proudly hang the Stars and Stripes above the pews. One that hung the Stars and Bars, even.
That’s not unique to Mormonism.
Might as well list Catholicism under Judaism if sequels to holy scriptures that alter pretty much everythivg count as the same religion
Literally what “Judeo-Christian” implies
Mormons are essentially catholicism reboot (or ‘Christian 2.0’) . They have an entire extra book with all new jesus stories. An extra prophet. Plus there’s blessed underwear and freemason style ceremonies. They also essentially have a pope.
Resemblance to Christianity or Catholicism is essentially academic.
I talked with two elders and they told be they believe in the succession of priesthood, they don’t like the idea of someone without that knowledge being supposedly sent by God to preach without it.
And in their personal opinion agreed more with the Catholics/Orthodox in that regard, rather than the Protestants.
As a recovering catholic, don’t get me wrong they believe some silly shit but mormons are on a whole other level.
I grew up Mormon and not sure why you got down voted.
Probably by a mormon
Or a catholic
A. No they dont.
B. The holy Trinity was a blunt force tool created to try and unite the Christian sects together. God and Jesus formalized at the council of Nicea, then the holy ghost added some ~70-ish years later at the Council of Constantinople.
It was bullshit from the fucking beginning.
Anyone gatekeeping Christianity on these corny little details are the fucking worst.
Humans are so silly. Especially in light of how serious religious simpletons are. just the silliest little apes we are. buddy, you’re just a pile of poop and water. calm down.
“The one thing you taught me about human beings is this / They ain’t made it nothing but water and shit / Alright?”
Old Modest Mouse pointed this out eloquently.
What senator is this?
Mike Lee R-Utah
Haha dumbass
“But I thought it would be the eastern religions that get targeted.”
not MY abortion not MY job not MY religion
not ME!
