• iceberg314@slrpnk.net
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    16 days ago

    Not trying to be a smart ass, but a good pair of running shoes or being in relatively good shape to run.

    Even if you do have a firearm, for example, I live in a “duty to retreat” state, and in most cases, if you don’t attempt to retreat where reasonable, before using deadly force you can get charged

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    16 days ago

    For the record, carrying a gun for self defense is illegal in most countries.

    Most countries treat gun ownership as a privilege, not a right.

    Self-defense is rarely accepted as a justification outside the U.S. and a few other exceptions.

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        16 days ago

        Sure. Am just saying that a gun is not a ‘good, viable’ self-defense tool, as the title suggests. That’s not true in most places.

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    16 days ago

    Umbrella. No one looks twice at someone carrying an umbrella, but it can still give you a reach advantage or be used as a weapon in extreme circumstances.

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    16 days ago

    A ring on your keys, big enough to use them as a type of brass knuckles/ flail. Slide your finger in, make a fist and swing away.

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    No knifes - but something blunt and small. Like a flashlight or mace. Made of metal, wood or even hard plastic. Could be retractable.

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    Your knees and elbows. Train some kickboxing on how to strike with them.

    Most items carried can be taken and used against you.

    A portable alarm with a high intensity strobe can give you time to run toward safety. Or a smart-watch with a duress/emergency feature, to sound alarm and call assistance. There may not always be the chance to pull out an item though.

    Your body size matters, get some expert advice on what will actually work for you, at your current size and fitness.

    Confidence, if you prepare and walk tall, your chances of being targeted diminish.

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    16 days ago

    Look up less-lethals. They are like overpowered BB guns for self defense. You can legally carry them anywhere that doesn’t have a no weapons sign. My brother got me into them. I still never shot it so I don’t know how lethal they are but they look exactly like real guns.

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      I have one of those for home defense with pepper balls and steel balls, but I will not bring it outside, especially since in the U.S. they are, by my understanding, less protected legally than pistols.

      Plus if I actually need it, it is highly unlikely to work.

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      15 days ago

      oh, I’m sure police are going to verify whether that is a real gun or not before they empty their clips into you.

    • Horse {they/them}@lemmygrad.ml
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      16 days ago

      that looks enough like an actual firearm that if you draw that almost anywhere in the us, the person you’re defending yourself from would have a very good chance of getting off scott free if they shoot you dead


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    Wasp spray. If you’re being attacked, 9 times out of 10 it’s probably a wasp or a wasp ally. I imagine wasp spray also works pretty well on animals with eyes or other exposed mucus membranes.

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      Highly illegal lots of places with the argument (much like having a baseball bat in your car and using it on someone - “why do you have a baseball bat with you but no glove, cleats, baseballs, uniform etc?”). So… “why do you have a dangerous liquid made for a specific purpose on you and used in a non-labeled manner?” Mace, pepper spray, even bear spray should not do permanent damage to an attacker. Wasp-type spray can blind someone for life. Malicious wounding is a serious felony almost everywhere.

  • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    so here’s the thing about self defense: it’s only a last resort. Don’t try to actually defend yourself unless it’s the only thing left to do. Reaching for a self defense tool at the first sign is cop shit.

    As for defense tools, they’re all good and viable. You just need to know how to use them. There’s no such thing as a no-effort defense tool. Buying a pepper spray and sticking it onto your keychain without a second thought does not make it a self defense tool. You need to practice to the point where it’s second nature to use it. That means knowing the effective range, knowing the shortfalls and limitations, and continual practice.

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    16 days ago

    I carry a pocket knife mostly for functional purposes, but it also can be used defensively if required. A locking blade mechanism is definitely important. I guess a box cutter could work too.

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    Caribiner like brass knuckles, sharpened toothbrush won’t show on metal detectors, keys on a ring I between your fingers, anything can be made a weapon in the right situation. Bear spray, taser, knife, anything literally. But assume anything you present in a fight can be took and used on you.

    The best advice is always to get out of the situation first and drive or run away. Good cardio serves a purpose in both fight and flight.

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      keys on a ring I between your fingers

      If you think this works, try it on a bag and report back.

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        My point was anything is useful when your life is at stake. Not technique or weapon is perfect. Better than being dead though.

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        The keys as a punchdagger trick does work, the problem is that it hurts you just about as much as it will hurt them too. It should always be used as a last resort where deescalating and running away are not going to work.

        Better to go to the hospital for your wounded hand than be dead because you lacked the strength or power to fight them off with regular punches.